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Trump urges Israel to 'finish up' its Gaza offensive and warns about global support fading

https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b

Former President Donald Trump says he would have responded the same way as Israel did after the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas but urged the country to “finish up” its offensive and “get this over with,” warning about international support fading.

Trump urges Israel to 'finish up' its Gaza offensive and warns about global support fading

45 comments

Volkditty

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What he means is, "I don't want to have to deal with this once I'm President again," and what he does not mean, in any way, is "I give a shit about the situation in Gaza."

NoneOfUrBusiness

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I read "finish up" as in "kill them all" not "stop".

BeigeAgenda

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Orbituary

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Technically that would be "stopping."

3volver

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Technically not if we're getting into semantics. The English language is always interesting to investigate, and trump is very good at dog whistling using this language.

"finish up" implies to take action quickly to finish the initial goals, such as to attack even stronger and faster to take territory in a short amount of time.

Example: "Finish up your dinner and you can have dessert."

"stop" implies to end immediately with no further action, such as a withdrawal or immediate cease fire.

Example: "Stop the car, I want to get out!"

Not a single time has trump said "stop" the violence in Gaza, not once.

billiam0202

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Sounds like he wants Israel to finally solve the Gaza "problem."

mriguy

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A “final solution” if you will.

Natanael

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As proven by his promises to ban gazans from USA

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-vows-expand-travel-ban-gaza-rcna120711

ptz

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Whereas I urge Trump's cholesterol to "finish up'.

DogPeePoo

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Trump is that fat guy that lost, right?

gravitas_deficiency

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Don’t forget, he’s also broke!

demonquark

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Fading? Global support is about as visible as God during the holocaust.

Son_of_dad

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Nobody has cared for the last 7 decades. Heck, you Americans were calling for the extermination of Palestine after 9/11. You just suddenly care cause the news told you to. And you'll stop caring once the new conflict happens, just like y'all forgot about Ukraine already

systemglitch

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I never heard anyone saying anything about Palestine after 9/11.

Telodzrum

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That's because, just like the day before 10/7, no one outside of FA circles was talking about Palestine.

Viking_Hippie

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Why was the Football Association talking about Palestine? Weren't they too busy defending obviously wrong refereeing decisions? 😛

Son_of_dad

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The entire Arab/Muslim world was being constantly targeted by Americans who wanted them all dead after 9/11. I remember lots of pro Israel "wipe out those ones too" talk about Palestine around then. Heck, you guys were even going after sihks just cause of their head covering. I was an adult then and remember those first few months, Americans wanted brown blood

chase_what_matters

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Americans are not a monolith, dude. A lot of us have grown up well-aware of the Israel-Palestine conflict, among other nuanced conflicts in the Middle East. Plenty of Americans have not forgotten about Ukraine, either. Quit scolding people on a website likely populated with much more liberal users. Jesus Christ.

Linkerbaan

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What nuance? Lies about WMD's?

Son_of_dad

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You are a monolith to us, the people you colonized, fucked, killed and used as pawns. I don't give a fuck about your minority of good people, when your entire government ran around the globe fucking everyone, now suddenly I'm supposed to get behind you guys cause you act like you've changed

lingh0e

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You are a monolith to us, the people you colonized, fucked, killed and used as pawns. I don't give a fuck about your minority of good people

First of all, I'm being pedantic here, but America never colonized a middle eastern or Arab country. I get your point, but calling America colonizers is just putting a hat on a hat.

Second, you sound just like the ignorant assholes in America who were harassing Sihks after 9/11. Stupid and full of hate.

chase_what_matters

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We’re a monolith to you because you do not have any interest in reading anything about our deadlock legislative body over literally the shit you began this argument with. Grow up.

MagicShel

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Americans are a pretty diverse lot. I don't remember any calls for attacking Palestine after 9/11. I'll take your word for it, but certainly no one in even my craziest right wing circles was saying that, so it was a vocal tiny minority. I spoke out against attacking Iraq. And against our use of torture.

Also I certainly haven't forgotten Ukraine. Nor have I forgotten how we fucked over the Kurds. I haven't forgotten the Uyghurs or Tibet. I'm concerned about Taiwan. I haven't forgotten about our mistreatment of Okinawans. The Bahamas. I could go on about the atrocities that my country has either perpetrated or profited from or at best been indifferent toward. There is just fuck all that I can personally do about any of it other than speak out to my friends and family.

Don't paint us all with one brush. The actions you see America take don't represent every single one of us. Often they don't even reflect the majority view.

mean_bean279

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Damn, opinions changing and evolving? Crazy… a whole country that isn’t constantly doing or believing the same thing? Insanity.

Also, we’re hopefully voting on Ukraine aid right after Easter…. I see Ukraine flags and “pray for Ukraine” stickers everywhere still.

NoneOfUrBusiness

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They care because genocide is bad. This might be surprising, but setting aside the one they committed Americans have always been very not okay with genocide. Israel is (or was, anyway) the exception, not the rule.

Son_of_dad

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Lol none of you Americans back home gave a fuck when your army genocided half my people. Now I'm supposed to believe you all grew a conscience.

Conyak

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Well, I’m not sure who your people are since you haven’t said but it’s unlikely that none of us cared. Again, you group every American together similar to how you claim we did/do to “brown people.” Americans are not our government. Our government does lots of things I and many others disagree with.

NoneOfUrBusiness

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I'm not American, but did America genocide anyone in recent history?

tsonfeir

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That means kill them all

simplejack

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He spent a bunch of time yelling “America first” to his base and telling them that we can’t support, Afghanistan, Ukraine, etc because we need to spend that money at home. And now they’re onboard.

As much as he’d love to paint the democrats increasing pressure on Bibi as “supporting terrorism,” his base prefers the idea of spending that money at home.

xmunk

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his base prefers the idea of spending that money at home.

They clearly don't... otherwise they wouldn't be voting for the person who wants to spend it all on himself.

simplejack

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The like the idea of it. They’re not actually going to get that though.

mister_monster

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Yup, Republicans are stuck in a conundrum: they've successfully sold fiscal responsibility and inward focus to their base, but that same base has been sold this idea that there's a chosen people who are entitled to the holy land. Well now they have to choose. I hope they choose the former.

I think there's a good chunk of Republicans who still support Israel at all cost, but I think the realization of what's happening over there is eating away at that steadily. I think America's support for Israel is slowly coming to an end.

chalk46

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Chosen people, are you frickin kidding me? Do you know how much land the Arabs have (Palestinians are mostly Arab)? Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. The Jews ask for one little plot of land and suddenly everybody starts crying genocide. What the hell happened to all the native Berbers in northern Africa?! All because some random guy claimed they were the illegitimate descendents of Abraham ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

mister_monster

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"The Arabs" are as much one people as "the Europeans", let's just give Italy to the Roma people and demand that Norway take them all in.

The Jews didn't ask. Look, I understand acknowledging conquest and the reality of the world, but to pretend that the conquerors are the good guys while it's happening... Don't be naive. See it for what it is.