Orange man said this and I can't stop thinking of it
Holy crap, it's actually true.
The quote, when talking about the carrier Gerald R. Ford (which does not have magnetic elevators, btw).
They had almost a billion dollar cost over on the magnetic elevators. Think of it, magnets. Now all I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets. Why didn’t they use John Deere? Why didn’t they bring in the John Deere people? Do you like John Deere? I like John Deere
Even if we pretended that quote were coherent and read what he intended (criticizing the electromagnetic catapults, not elevators) instead of what he actually said.... he wants a fucking tractor company to work on them? John Deere knows fuck-all about high-tech linear induction motors; even under the most charitable interpretation possible his position is still asinine and nonsensical!
Edit: I don't know why I'm even surprised by this. I guess it's just, of all companies he could've pulled out of his ass, John fucking Deere?! That's a weird random choice even for him.
Well we've all seen the man struggle with a glass of water. Trump v Water Glass is a tough match. Also, he was campaigning in Iowa at the time. Anyone at that rally that wasn't wearing a MAGA hat was wearing a John Deere one. Similar to the "man, woman, person, camera" incident. It's a short trip from eyes to mouth with this one.
This sounds more like an attempt to win a rural crowd and play with their "enginear stoopid, farmer smat" sentiment.
Farmers don't give a crap about carrier catapults, and half of them know more about magnets the he does.
Someone got paid to convince him to oppose magnets and managed to do it with really stupid arguments.
He now repeats these arguments without thinking about it because it gets cheers from equally dumb rubes in his audience.
It depends... Also a different skill set.
If I'm asking about proper crop rotation to keep a high nitrogen level in my soil.. I'm absolutely going to a farmer.
If I need a database to store crop yields and sales... I'm absolutely going to a software engineer.
If I'm looking for how to reset my forearm after I broke it snow boarding... I'm absolutely going to a doctor.
If I'm looking for how to make a desk from reclaimed old natural wood... I'm absolutely going to a carpenter.
Everyone has skills, one profession is not smarter than another. Each profession is smart in what they are trained or experienced in.
Unless the person you go to has just the right kind of ADHD. We can know a little about a lot of things. Sometimes that's all you need! Sometimes the knowledge we have makes things worse.
If you ask me about rotating crops I'll likely have a reasonable answer for you because I grew up in rural areas where a lot of folks grew their own food and I have kept up some small amount of those skills in my garden behind my house.
If you ask me for a database, I've got you. I'll pull some off the shelf software and tailor it to your needs. Not my exact skill set but close enough that I'm plenty comfortable doing it.
Ask me how to set your broken arm, I will likely make it worse with my small amount of first aid knowledge. But I'll give it the old college try if you're insistent enough.
If you want to make a desk, I can help! It'll be ugly but it'll survive until the apocalypse because I've been doing small woodworking projects for years. That's exactly what my music battle station is. Ugly and functional and I hope I never have to move because I don't know how to take it apart.
Overall, I agree with you. There's also some in every field that think because they know X thing that they can speak competently on Y topic. I've seen it a lot from doctors, less from farmers and programmers. Almost every carpenter I've known would just ask you to go away while holding a sinister looking tool.
Sounds like he's talking about a specific implementation of electro-mangets, and giving his concerns that electronic systems applied to elevators in the Navy, could be vulnerable to water damage as compared to mechanically engineered system.
...so this obviously means he's fit and sane to implement The Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, a plan to "be a dictator only on day one" by firing any democratic party supporting liberals across all departments of the public services, and installing Republican party friendly employees in those positions instead. This would represent a level of political persecution never seen before in the history of American democracy, and possibly the end of American democracy.
It's what Clarence Thomas calls the dismantling of the "Administrative State" and has been a life long goal of his. Ergo it's likely the Supreme Court would allow this behaviour as part of "Unitary Executive Theory".
I say all this because it's easy to make Trump and MAGA look stupid. They, like many fascist movements appeal to a very simplistic base of people - but at the upper eschelons they do have a plan, and do have major peices in place.
Do not under estimate them.
In typical Trump fashion he probably couldn't comprehend anything about the advanced weapon elevators testing and delays. Or the electromagnetic catapult system that's pretty flipping cool.
I'm sure some wasted their time telling him why Ford was behind and over budget for technical reasons. And then bingo bango you got retarded dementia boy word salad.
I think he just saw magnets being dropped in a glass of hot water and temporarily demagnetize, but missed or forgot the hot water part.
Sounds like he confused magnets for cotton candy. Easy mistake, as both can stick to certain things. Why are people blowing this out of proportion? We all know what he really meant.
This feels like someone tried to explain electromagnetism to him and his takeaway was that, like electronics, magnets can’t get wet.
New York City writer Fran Leibowitz said this of Donald Trump. "You don't know anybody as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don't."
I don't remember the details, because hell if I'll waste my memory on that, but I do remember he was talking about an electromagnet, and insisted that it would stop working if sprayed with sea water.
It's not as outrageous as the literal thing he said, but it's still quite dumb.
Maybe he has a point, but there's probably some organization that knows how to keep electrical systems running at sea. Maybe they could help the US Navy out with this.
Nah, he didn't have a point. It is still stupid in any way you look.
It's not some "those people know what they are doing" thing, there's absolutely no problem to find there. If the wires weren't insulated, they wouldn't work in a coil at all.
Still, it's not at the level of "everybody should just inject bleach at their bloodstream".
I'm joking. It's just as dumb as his bleach idea. The USN keeps several nuclear reactors running at sea all day every day.
there’s probably some organization that knows how to keep electrical systems running at sea.
you mean like the us navy? lol
Now they want to install these "transporters" on the latest flagship. Can you believe it! Transporters. That don't work in an ion storm. Space is full of ion storms! They're useless. I talked to a guy named Reg down in engineering. Good fellow, really smart, knows what he's doing. I asked him, Reg, which would be better? Transporters or shuttlecraft? "Shuttlecraft" is better according to Reg, the man who knows all about how these things work. Transporters! Ha! Pour a cup of water on them and they stop working, and you have to be a Zephram Cochrane if you want to know how to fix them. Shuttles are what you want, solid tritanium alloy, that's what you can trust.
The sad irony here being that the actor who portrayed Broccoli is, himself, a card carrying nutbar.
I would be a luddite about transporters too. They're just the Prestige duplicator except people treat it like it's totally fine. There's even a plotline about them fucking up the kill and leaving an earlier iteration of Riker stranded in a planet. No thanks, I'll be staying physical.
meanwhile i'll be duplicating myself and populating an entire research ship on my own
I don't know where that came from, but it was probably just some cranky old admiral who's going a bit senile while everyone waits for him to retire.
Didn't I see this a few weeks ago or something?
Are we getting reposts already? We've made it!
Lol. This has really come full circle as I am posting things that were sent to me by a friend of mine that doesn't use lemmy.
Lol. This has really come full circle as I am posting things that were sent to me by a friend of mine that doesn't use lemmy.
Oh, I guess I didn't get it. This actually kind of annoys me. Is this a political sub now?
Independently of political ideology, Trump is a not-too-bright con man and grifter. I honestly don’t get why people are so enamoured with him, he’s pulling their legs right in front of them and they only give him more money.
I don't think discussions about the viability of magnets in space travel belongs in a political sub. Not sure what point you are making...
