Yes, it's so cringe. Honestly, he is like a child. Especially that this is all done publicly.
Don't worry Zuck will follow suit. And if you make content and it does bring in revenue to you, why not leach extra money out of the 3 biggest tax dodgers!
He is getting exactly what he wants everyone is talking about him, why do I want to be reminded everyday about how he is?
Its not so embarrassing if you need it. But when you're one of the wealthiest people on the planet and literally begging, that's seriously embarrassing.
I didn’t realize anyone earned anything on Twitter ever. Is this just video views? Is this new?
Also, fuck Musk, etc.
I think it's new, he decided to add it to attract Tucker Carlson. I don't know who would watch a whole 20 minute video on their phone though.
No, I meant on YouTube. Most people watch long videos on their mobile devices just fine.
I just don't see the reason to do it.
If I have time to watch a 20min video it's because I'm at home doing nothing and home is where my TV and computers are. If the only thing I have is my phone that means I'm out doing something, so I don't have time to watch a 20min video.
I sometimes watch long YouTube videos on my phone while in my living room, where my huge screen also is. Don’t ask me why, but I like it.
Either that or you're commuting in a country with good signal coverage, for instance. I live in a hilly region in Europe, so streaming while commuting is difficult because of tunnels, but it can be done.
Good thing your personal experiences are the only possible way to live. For a second there we were dangerously close to self awareness!
Good thing I said """I""" don't see the reason to do it, as in this is my use case for me personally . For a second there I was dangerously far from saying "No one should ever"
Will i watch videos on my phone rather than my computer? no
will i watch videos on my phone rather than staring into the distance and feeling the state of the world slowly and agonizingly send me into a spiral of depression and anxiety?
Yeah.
My wife will binge watch TV shows on her phone. Ones with epic views like The Expanse. I don't get it but she's fine with it.
I have a friend who watches entire movies on his phone. It appalls me, but a lot of people do it.
Meh, I've got a 4k phone with Dolby atmos. I'm fine watching a movie on it. As a technophile and audiophile, it's hitting everything it needs to hit for me. I do prefer to watch in my VR headset overall, but VR headsets are still only up to the equivalent of 1080p at a comfortable field of view. Still pretty good, but the main upside for VR is perfect 3D, I'm one of the weirdos that likes 3D.
But, I do get that at the time of this recording, he had a 4-6 inch diagonal phone with a single tinny speaker and 576p screen in mind, and that would indeed not be a great way to watch a movie. Though if people like it, no real reason to be snobby to them about it, they just don't care about the same thing he does/we do.
I would if i was on a train. I don't know if I would do it with Twitter's video player though...
I don’t know who would watch a whole 20 minute video on their phone though.
In some countries, a phone as a daily computer for everything is much more popular than actual computers.
On Twitter? God no. But elsewhere people would be more likely to watch long form content on their phones than you’d think
On Twitter? God no. But elsewhere people would be more likely to watch long form content on their phones than you’d think
How is he going to be able to handle more videos when he has to ration text views because it's melting his servers.
He's always been desperate for attention, but now the public sentiment has finally turned against him everything he does just looks sad.
Oh and his memes were always stale AF.
Elon just wants everyone to think he's funny and smart.
Unfortunately he's so determined to be constantly visibly online it's completely shattered that illusion.
He's just not funny.
A lot of comedy comes from situational absurdity of unexpected actions, and there is nothing that kills the joke faster than to realize that they are not pretending. It was funny at first when a boomer (Ok, elder Gen X) billionaire started posting bad middle school humor on Twitter, it immediately stopped being funny when it turns out his real maturity level never got past middle school.
Which is also why Trump is such a black hole for comedy, you just can't make fun of him, because any absurd and ridiculous thing you can think of him doing, you would expect him to actually do it.
Which is also why Trump is such a black hole for comedy, you just can’t make fun of him, because any absurd and ridiculous thing you can think of him doing, you would expect him to actually do it.
If a sketch comedy group ever does another Trump sketch, I think the best one would be to make him seem like Sherlock Holmes behind closed doors. I mean a posh English accent, a big and sophisticated vocabulary, and an obviously sharp mind. Then have him leave the room to do a press conference and put on the idiot persona, then come back and back to his "true" self.
I think that's the only thing that would be absurd and ridiculous: he's actually very smart and sophisticated, not just a buffoon.
Two people in this world that you should never get an IOU from: Trump and Musk.
They just don't pay their bills. It's not worth the effort.
With what money, Elon? You can't afford to pay Google or office rent but you're going to pay Mr. Beast?
He’s perfectly capable of paying both. He doesn’t want to, and because he’s rich, he doesn’t have to. There is a reason billionaires end up with so much money, and fairly compensating other parties isn’t it.
They don't have to rip other people off, they just choose to. I had a girlfriend whose family was quite wealthy... she loved shopping at the dollar store, and her mother acted overwhelmed with glee when she found a dozen past-date eggs for .65 at the grocery store. Is that how they became wealthy? Fuck no, they inherited a hotel.
Mr Beast will always have money if he does it though, even if he loses all his other money he'll still have an unpaid debt from Pissbaby Musk.
A company notorious for revenue problems and missing bill payments is definitely who I would want to enter a business relationship with. Where do I sign up?
Exactly. Unless they can negotiate a better wage that will hold up against a lawsuit, it is equivalent to a modern scam.
He’s begging for traffic, which equates to money for his ad sales. It is pretty pathetic.
Ad revenue would pay Mr.Beast. And he's not even sure it's competitive with YouTube.
You understand that what content creators get paid by the platform is never anywhere near what the platform gets paid by the advertisers...right?
Using completely made up numbers, if Mr Beast is paid $1 by Youtube for every thousand views, YouTube may be getting paid $6 or $7 by advertisers.
Otherwise the monetization would never work.
Musk doesn't have the funds or the revenue from Twitter to be able to compete with that.
Not even. He's offering similar compensation per view. There's no way Twitter is getting the number of views YouTube is. Especially with all the games he's playing lately, like putting the whole site behind a registration wall
How can MrBeast post a 10-minute video on Twitter? Should he make a thread for a video? 😆 😆
I don't get why Twitter didn't try to make a Youtube-like video platform before? I wonder if it's because venture capital has caused brain rot in the executive teams at these tech companies? It seems obvious to launch something like that, and they 100% have (had) the talent and infrastructure to build and support it. Even if it isn't massively successful on day one, it could be successful in the future with a strong marketing effort.
If I didn't know that these companies were run by incompetent idiots, my first suspicion would be some kind of collusion. Trying to do it now that Twitter is a sinking ship is laughable.
They didn’t have anywhere close to the infrastructure to compete with YouTube
Based off earnings from before Twitter was purchased, they were making less money than Snapchat - and Snapchat is having to close down gfycat due to the cost of serving gifs - much less having the main focus be long form videos
If he just brought over a few really big creators, he wouldn't need all of YouTube's infrastructure.
OTOH, even just a tiny fraction of YouTube's infrastructure is massive compared to what Twitter does with video. It's like someone suggest that a newspaper start using his home printer instead of their printing presses.
That doesn't really matter, unless you expect the video feature to be unprofitable. With ~300m or whatever active users, it would not be hard to raise money if they need it to launch a major product like that.
There’s 0 chance it would be profitable. They probably could have built it with a lot of external funding, but it would probably never have become profitable
Google is still trying to figure out how to make YouTube profitable
I completely disagree. If anything, Google having difficulties with profitability is an opportunity for a competitor to beat them (although I don't think youtube is unprofitable).
Can something like this under Twitter management (current or previous) succeed? Probably not. But could a team of smart people with access to 300 million users build a video streaming platform that's profitable? Hell yes, and the only major concern would be anti-competitive bs from Google, but the FTC has been paying more attention to that kind of stuff recently.
But could a team of smart people with access to 300 million users build a video streaming platform that’s profitable?
How big of a team are we talking about?
A small team, no.
First there's compliance with copyright laws to consider, All the false accusations that go along with it. You gonna need some lawyers and support people to handle these issues.
Moderation is significantly more challenging too. It's significantly harder to detect things like copy right violations, child porn, etc, when it's in video forma than in text form.
Then you need staff to manage the clients. And by clients I mean the advertisers. So there's going to have weird demands like "no swearing in the first 15 seconds of the video" or whatever. And so you have to manage the rollout of weird features like that. Which ideally would include tools so the content creators can remain in compliance with the weird demands of the advertisers.
Then there's the bandwidth considerations. It takes way more resources to serve up video to 300 million users than it is to serve up text.
Sure many times Youtube sucks at these things right but these are things that need to be done and doing them right is going to require a larger staff than YouTube has.
If they start with a subscription only model, yeah, they could make one that’s profitable.
Will 300 million people agree to paying a monthly subscription…. Questionable
He's a right-wing billionaire, hating everybody but himself comes with the territory.
He has a trans daughter who disowned him. I don't know why, but you can probably guess.
"He" being Elon, I believe, not Mr Beast.
I could be wrong about Mr Beast, however. But Elon def has a trans kid and this is the source of his bigotry.
He likely hates them because his daughter is trans and completely wrote him off. She changed her name wanting to have no association to her father.
Soon after this he started increasing his anti trans shit.
Not sure if he hates anything but it does look like he looks at most people as lesser beings.
For those wanting to save a click:
“Chris isn’t my ‘nightmare,’” he (Mr Beast) went on. He wrote that Tyson is “my f**ken friend and things are fine. All this transphobia is starting to piss me off.”
Man it'd be great if he told Elon something like "sure, once transphobia is banned on here and you personally apologize for your transphobic language and promote trans rights".
I don't think he'd get a response lmao
Chris from Mr. Beast is non-binary.
Link from below:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/15/entertainment/mr-beast-transphobia-chris-tyson-trnd/index.html
Funny how the one bigotry designed and advertised for women ends up being coopted by shouty men.
Pretty sure Mr Beast is a company, not a person. I mean, we know who he is, but like, he isn't the guy managing millions of dollars.
Pretty sure they are a well oiled machine, still making ridiculous amount of money.
Asking them to come to your platform publicly like that would be like BC college asking the Red Sox to play a few games on their turf for funzies.
They wouldn't show up without a down payment equal to what they pull down on an average night at home.
Are you bill Simmons? This is a great analogy to Boston sports and the only person I know who can do that is Bill Simmons. But I guess that's because I live in Florida lol
I mean, the Sox do play a double header with BC and Northeastern every spring training, so you could see the theoretical game in Florida if you wanted
All the jokes aside, it's still amazing the CEO over a year in doesn't even know how profitable being an user that drives engagement on the site is compared to a (I guess) competitor like youtube. He's just like we're as profitable as youtube for you, or if not we can be, like the guy knows nothing and is just throwing claims out there with no basis in reality or plan to follow through on them.
over a year in
The deal closed at the end of October. He's also appointed a new CEO, so while he owns, the title isn't with him. He's still in charge, though. Still an asshole, too.
Interesting that he would try to use the potential number of views as a selling point while also publicly decimating the reach of Twitter posts lol
He just wants popular and already famous people on his platform. He doesn't understand that a well designed platform will surface that content for the people that want it. Instead he wants to jump straight to things that are already popular and then force everyone to see those things. It's completely backwards.
I deliberately lower streaming quality on everything I watch. If the thing is really worth it I might watch it in 720p. Everything else goes in 480p.
The push for 4k is a level of consumerism I'm not comfortable with, having the world going to shit as fast as it's going.
Why do you lower resolution below 1080p? Does your screen not support it or connection bandwidth?
I use only 1080p because my phone screen and pc monitor support it and my eyes still percive difference between 720p and 1080p
I do it too. I do it because our internet sucks and bandwidth is precious. 4k makes everything stutter. Especially if you have more than one thing in the house streaming at once.
That is a technical reason I can agree with.
Dumbing down 4k 'just because' is stupid still.
I do it too because, although I have great bandwidth, 4k on YouTube (specifically) usually stutters for me and I’d rather just watch something unimpeded at a lower resolution. Not that fussed about resolution on a YouTube vid.
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Mostly 360p myself, varying depending on how much internet is available and whether or not I gotta read text in the video
Even I don't get where you're coming from and I won't replace the 720p TV in my bedroom because I don't want to deal with some smart TV crap and the resolution is fine because it's a small TV.
But intentionally not watch it at low resolution because fuck society? Makes no sense to me.
Owning capitalists by giving them the same amount of money for worse service on purpose.
"consumerism"? My dude, it's pre produced video files. With hardware acceleration it takes barely any real processing power to play back 4k video.
You are not changing anything or making any difference in whether the world is "going to shit". The Internet bandwidth you're getting is being artificially choked by your ISP...always.
It feels like you think it's some kind of moral victory and wanted to take some kind of arbitrary stand against "consumerism" and landed here.
Unless you actually have bandwidth limitations or don't have a screen capable of displaying the content, lowering to DVD quality is achieving nothing at all.
I don't really care for 4K. The diminishing returns isn't worth it, and it's really turning into a bandwidth problem for the major players that offer it for free.
But, I can't get behind 480p. That shit is garbage resolution, especially on a TV or computer.
4K, 8K, 1,293K is overrated gimmicks to me. I want to see actual improvements, not just how big the resolution can get and how much detail. The last thing that wow'ed me like that were movie theater screens. I'm not really that impressed with it. Also 60FPS shows and things are so off-putting!
I'll be honest I'm with you on the world going to shit and all that but I can't use 1080p after 4k it feels like blurry vision. I don't know how you don't see it as a significant improvement.
8k+ I don't see any difference to 4k though, not at 20-30inch screen sizes anyway.
It just depends on the content. I have a 4K 65" TV that is at the upper end of mid-range in quality and 4K is definitely a noticeable improvement over 1080p in most instances, but a lot of the time it's only noticeable if you're specifically looking for it and doesn't actually improve the viewing experience all that much. I do think it's worth the upgrade though, just for the instances where it really does have a positive effect. Like, watching the Hong Kong fight scene in Pacific Rim on a good quality 4K display is just an entirely different experience than it is on a good 1080p display.
Similar mindset has been ruining video games lately. "You can see every pimple and bead of sweat on their face!" Cool, how does it run on a budget PC? "...just look at that hair! If you squint it doesn't look like steel wool at all!"
Got a 4k screen on my laptop, yeah honestly not worth it at all. Barely a difference from 1080p, and yet requires significantly more resources to use. Unless you have a massive display, really not worth it at all.
Ditto. I even have an add-in that forces it to 480 unless I explicitly select something else. I like to use my bandwidth for more important things than counting pimples on an "influencer's" forehead.
And I like to use my time for more important things than counting pimples on an “influencer’s” forehead
Seriously...what a weird take. High resolution video is simply just nicer to watch, these guys are going a very strange direction with it.
High resolution video is nicer to watch when:
480p hits a decent balance for me in most cases. It makes the people in the video recognizable (like, say, the presenter in a news/comedy/pop science/whatever vlog), and most text in such a video will be readable. Sometimes when there's a lot of diagrams or when the pictures need clarity I'll boost it to 720p, but using up over double the bandwidth is just not worth it most times. I have more important things to do with that bandwidth.
For a movie with a lot of rich detail, etc, 1080p is even nicer. It might even be worth the five times the bandwidth to get to it. But here's where diminishing returns starts to kick in. 1080p is five times the bandwidth, but only a bit over twice the linear resolution. It had better be a really important doubling of resolution.
4K streaming? That's laughable. Yes it's over 4 times as high in linear resolution, but it's over TWENTY times as high in bandwidth. I could literally watch 20 simultaneous 480p streams (or 4 simultaneous 1080p streams at a paltry 2× improvement in linear resolution) for a single 4K stream.
And that's just bandwidth. Processing costs are on a similar order of magnitude. I have a computer at home that outpowers all the supercomputers that were on the planet put together when I was a child. Playing a single 4K movie sucks up most of its processing power. Again, I have better things to spend my CPU time (and/or electricity bill) on than watching some presenter's pimples on screen in fine detail.
The content is worthy of it. (So, you know, not some talking head sitting at a desk like your average Youtuber.)
That's the most important thing. The last two things I watched in 4K on my TV were the Avatar sequel and Community. One of those is absolutely a different experience in 4K than it is in 1080p, and the other may as well be in 720p for all the difference it makes.
I'm talking about Community, obviously. Joel McHale is dreamy and deserves 8K at minimum.