I miss bread, says girl, as Gaza food crisis mounts
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I miss bread, says girl, as Gaza food crisis mounts
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-68358053
Footage shows desperation as crowds rush to aid deliveries.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-68358053
Footage shows desperation as crowds rush to aid deliveries.
In the full video she tells the interviewer that she misses bread and then the man asks her where her dad is and she says "he's in heaven" and she fights back the tears.
Ya think I'm going to give that video a skip. I'm tearing up from just the picture and the headline alone =(
Can you link it? Fuck Israel in all ways possible, if anyone deserves to burn in hell for eternity, they are the topmost contender
Edit: I wonder how long will it take the US and UN to declare IDF as a terrorist organization? Oh wait, you are not a terrorist if you are supported by the US? Makes sense
I mean, unless we assume that the United States is a terrorist organisation, then it would make sense why they would support the likes of the IOF.... Eh Eh?
One thing I have seen is that ‘murica is smart, instead of directly killing the people they hate, they get it done through Israel while putting on a mask ‘If you daddy Israel wont stop, I’ll make sure to spank you’, Russia could learn a lesson or two
Honestly, If you ask me, the United States is the largest terror organisation in the world.
If we need evidence, me exibit A is this post, this girl would not be missing bread or her father if it where not for the United States... if we need more examples I am happy to provide, but I am going to be suspect if this argument 1 does not turn you
Ofc, they have been committing crimes especially in the middle east ever since my parents were born, and have directly and indirectly killed millions, but ofc they always get away with it, however if someone else does the same, they get freaking bombed, I hate every autocratic dictatorship around the world but I just have a personal grudge with the democratic US, I don’t think anyone has killed more than them, while also being directly responsible for the rise of radical organizations around the world
"democratic" studies show that the will of the people has no effect on the decisions of the government, Oligarchic or Plutocratic is the correct word
Well its not like the ppl in the US have much of a choice tho, you can either choose genocide Joe or genocide squared trump, I have no idea why they still elected ppl like reagan or bush tho
I don't understand how Israel can create this humanitarian crisis and then prevent aid from helping. I just went to Oxfam's website to see what they are doing and where donations are going and they've only been able to provide about 6,000 food parcels because Israel won't allow aid workers to have access. As human beings we have a moral obligation to save humans from dying needlessly but Israel is doing this on purpose. They don't deserve this, it doesn't make sense.
They pretty much were doing this even before the attack. They were on purpose limiting the amount of resources entering Gaza, and that is why this tunnel network in Gaza was built in the first place. Because Israel was purposefully limiting the amount of goods delivered into Gaza.
It is really despicable what Israel is doing in Gaza and the West Bank and what they were doing for years without any meaningful reaction from the West.
Yeah but obviously these people are lesser than everyone else, so it totally makes sense this 4 year old along with thousands of others deserve starvation and shouldn't even be able to have family to comfort her.
This just might be the most heart breaking clip I've ever seen.
non-jews and non-whites... they have also turned away black jewish people trying to enter and claim the "right to return" because well the racism thing
I don’t understand how Israel can create this humanitarian crisis and then prevent aid from helping.
It's a lot cheaper and easier to starve people to death in the giant concentration camp they were born in, than to gather them, to transport them to much smaller concentration camps and then have to spend money on Zyklon B to get rid of them.
Du Pont is really picky and choosy with which totalitarian regimes they supply extermination gas to.
It does make sense, but priorities are different so it's less noticeable.
From a military point of view, starving the enemy is a victory in itself. Means fewer numbers to deal with.
And that's all these people are to them, the enemy.
I’ve never missed bread. That’s so sad that there’s a population that misses bread only because another population has decided that they’re less than human.
An IAF soldier reading this article:
"Aww, how sad. I wonder if there's anything I could do to help? Ooh, I know!"
He then proceeds to scribble "Bread" on one of the munitions he's loading.
A second soldier notices this and comes near.
"Hey man, that's not cool. What's she going to do with just one bread? We need a dozen loaves at least!"
He starts scribbling as well.
Their commander looks on speechless and shakes his head at their antics.
"What a bunch of degenerates."
He places his own marker aside and goes to reprimand his subordinates. Behind him a missile newly babtized 'Dildo of Doom' lies in silence.
She'll age more than most of us, if she survives at all. A forced famine was always part of the plan.
Look man, I am not religious, but religion is not the reason bad people do bad things, I am not going to say it is nessicarily an inharent part of their charicter, but there are other reasons. People will also do great feets of good in the name of religion as well. to boil it all down to religion is really an over simplification.
You see lemmy has decided whenever anything bad happens religion is to blame, Measles? Religion, Global Warming? Religion, War? Religion
Idk what the fuck is going on in the US, but from what I can tell is that they are using religion as an excuse to do whatever the fuck they want (anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the bible knows this is wrong anyway), while also not changing their conservative mindset, I live in a religious conservative society as well and it is 100% the conservativesm I have a problem with, not with people believing in a god
Edit: And I am not a christian either before I get comments like ‘gO aWaY buTthUrt ChrISTOfacIst lol’, I just have studied a fair share of major religions
Ill be honest, I am an Athiest, and I had about a year where I went through the "reddit athiest" phase where all religion is evil, but religion is very rarely, especialy in modern time (but I would argue even in pre modern) the root cause of the issue, is it a stated reason, yes, is it an accelerant to the issue maybe, but very rarely have I found it to be the rout cause.
Religion in itself is not evil, but it definitely can be used in a very evil way, but I don’t think ‘kill all religion’ is the way to combat it, instead we should educate ppl about what their religion actually says, it’s pretty clear that Jesus was a socialist who wanted the rich to pay their taxes, and Islam has a mandatory charity every muslim has to give, just to name a few things, but people don’t know all this, because all they have been taught is ‘kill anyone who is not like you’, and also show that religion is something you can share, not force, and this again ties back to what I said about conservatism, people don’t want to accept they are wrong about somethings they believe in
In the US religion is absolutely being used to spearhead social conservatism and anti-government ideas. Evangelists are backing candidates who say stuff like "only while male Christians should be able to vote". And the judge appointed to the Supreme Court that shifted it to the far right has heavy ties to that same section of Christianity.
Let's not forget too that the entire reason we have this conflict is extremist Jews believe God gave them the entirety of Palestine and Syria.
Religion is a catch-all for beliefs, ideology, etc, and it is religion. The fight is your sky God versus my sky God. Meanwhile, it's the same fucking God.
Name a mass genocide / terrorist attack committed by atheists. And I'm talking about groups, not some neckbeard from Reddit who decided to shoot up a school.
I'll wait.
Stalin wasn't religious and actively tried to stamp out religion.
He killed what, 6+ million people?
I think you are confusing him with the other moustached man of WW2
Stalin "only" killed 1.2 million at the high estimate. He killed people because they were in opposition rather than a certain race like Hitler.
No Stalin was an athiest and he caused mass genocide.
Google says it could be 20+ million. Anyways, how many he killed isn't the point.
He killed people because they were in opposition
Yeah he killed them for non-religious reasons. Religion didn't play a part in the mass genocide.
Google says Hillary Clinton eats babies in the basement of a pizza restaurant.
And no, he did not cause genocide, 'mass' or otherwise.
Yeah the official term genocide was specifically crafted to avoid including Joseph Stalin. Sure.
https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23/naimark-stalin-genocide-092310/
Athiest Joseph Stalin performed mass killing of his own people
A lot of bad things have happened because of religion but i wouldn't consider it the only thing keeping us from an utopia.
Both Hamas and Israel need to be held accountable for their respective atrocities, not a young and innocent child.
"Both the Nazis and the Jewish partisans need to be held accountable for their respective atrocities!"
The Hamas have outright stated their goal is the genocide of the Jewish people.
With your metaphor, are you comparing the Hamas to the Nazis and Israel to the Jewish partisans - or - are you comparing the Hamas to the Jewish partisans and the Israel to the Nazis?
I think the original comment about both Hamas and Israel needing to be held accountable is correct. This isn't a conflict between good and evil, this is a conflict between evil and evil.
Hamas has stated their goal is not the genocide of Jewish people. So maybe apply some critical thinking, look into primary sources, do some historical analysis instead of taking things at face value?
Okay I condemn Israel as much as the next guy, but Hamas has people who really deserve a trial in the Hague.
Or you're just a genocide denier, in which case I have nothing to say.
In hindsight it probably wasn't a good idea to bite the hand that feeds. Hamas evidently doesn't give a shit about the condition of their civilians as they could end this immediately any time they want by releasing the hostages and surrendering. Critics here expect Israel to care about Gazans more than their own elected government does, which continues to exploit them for their value as human shields, martyrs, and sympathetic children to be paraded before the press instead of keeping them safe. Yet they still somehow still enjoy popular support. It's incredible.
Sigh just go get a life. Nobody wants to read your genocidal apologia. And Israel isn't the hand that feeds you piece of shit they're the cause of this whole mess.
Over 1% of the TOTAL civilian population in Gaza has been killed, with no end in sight. In what twisted worldview is that not genocide?
That commenter apparently went to the turkish school of genocide denial... "if that were a genocide, how come there are still greeks a d armenians around?"
Genocide is a claim of intent, has nothing to do with body count. Israel does not intend to destroy Palestinians. They intend to destroy Hamas and choose legal targets to that effect. Call it atrocious, call it terrible, all it unacceptable, call it all manner of things you don't like, but to call it genocide is simply wrong.
Clearly Gaza is dependent on Israel for basic necessities, they provoked war with them anyway.
Uh yes, that's how occupation works. As an occupying power Israel has an obligation to supply Gazans with food, water and other necessities, even during an insurgency.
Gaza was blockaded, not occupied. Hamas had internal autonomy, Israel just controlled what could get in. It's an important distinction with a lot of legal implications. The west bank is occupied. Gaza is not.
If that terrible definition sticks, expect it to be actually occupied with an IDF presence once this is over like the West Bank is.
Hope that paycheck you’re getting keeps you comfortable in Tel Aviv. The world will not forget.
What an odd thing to assume, why, is Hamas paying you? Is being a shill the only reason one might disagree?
Odd is defending the deaths of 30,000 people because of socially constructed religions, borders, races and laws. But I have empathy and don’t have an Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Like many here, I'm on the side of civilians - of any ethnicity.
The overwhelming majority of civilians in Gaza did not elect Hamas (happened before half of them were born) and it feels disingenuous to call them an elected government.
Nevertheless yes, I expect everyone in this conflict to care about these civilians a lot more than most of the combatants do. Expecting people to act humanely isn't unreasonable.
It's not at all "incredible" that we are against the starvation of children.
My oh my that is a biased youtuber. Blatantly saying no one could possibly disagree and be a, "decent person," that Israel defending itself is, "evil winning," makes it clear.
They "stole" the land while simultaneously buying it legally, but somehow it doesn't count because it's just, "a piece of paper"? Okay. That's how land purchasing works, and it's not theft.
It took a while to find sources, the interview of the man "laughing at atrocities" was talking about the Tantura massacre, which was terrible. One can certainly find many examples of atrocious behavior and war crimes in this long conflict. Neither Israel nor Palestine has clean hands. I've seen accounts of equally egregious or worse behavior by the Arab League, but that's indirectly relevant in today's conflict at best. Those atrocities happened in a conflict generations ago.
In this most recent chapter of the war, Gaza's once-elected government, Hamas, was clearly the antagonist. Oct 7th was the direct cause of all this. If you have the stomach for it, you should see what they did. (warning: NSFL, cruelty, violence, death.) It put Tantura to shame, and it isn't an atrocity of the past, it is of the present, one that needs to be addressed. Unlike grievances from generations ago, the belligerents remain a threat and further attacks need to be prevented.
Israel deserves safety and binding their hands before that can be achieved, before Hamas is deposed, before the hostages are returned, is akin to holding them down so they can't respond to an antagonist punching them. That's not something a good person would do in my opinion. It sucks that there's a cost to civilians but that's always the case when one's government starts a war and loses. I want this war to end, but not until Israel has achieved meaningful safety goals. Otherwise, this constant violence and belligerence will just continue, and it will be blindly fired rockets, suicide bombings, and Oct 7th's indefinitely.
I don't find this rando cheering for the downfall of America and Israel to be compelling, if anything it's evidence of the media bubble you inhabit.
It's possible to disagree in good faith without going ad hominem. You should try it. I can both disagree that this is a genocide and be a decent person.
It's disheartening how effectively Hamas and their allies has convinced the left that they are the good guys and Israel must be stopped before they are defeated. Iran made a good investment.
Interesting that you dishonestly and conveniently disregarded the expert opinion of Raz Segal; an Israeli historian residing in the United States who is Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Endowed Professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, where he also directs the Master of Arts in Holocaust and Genocide Studies program. Who vehemently describes what is happening as a genocide.
I'm sure you're aware many similarly credentialed historians disagree with Raz Segal about that.
But yet you failed to list them. I have another Holocaust researcher that condemns Israel’s actions.
I am doing no such thing, I am pointing out that this is not a genocide as defined by international law. You should look up the legal definition of genocide, because you clearly don't understand what it means.
Oh you wanna go there? Yeah let’s go over this in excruciating detail. From your link:
Article II of the Convention defines genocide as:
... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The situation in Gaza hits the majority of these conditions, but legally it only needs to satisfy ONE of these conditions, and even if it targets only a PART of the population.
Let’s review:
Item A: Killing people in Gaza is a given. As I mentioned before, over 1% of the civilian population is now dead, with no end in sight. What’s worse is that even by Israel’s estimates, the majority of deaths are civilians including women and children, not combatants.
Item B: I think mental and bodily harm are given here, considering they are being killed. But let’s focus on the displacement of the population, and how over 70% of all civilian housing is now destroyed leaving people with nowhere to live. I would think this easily satisfies the condition for systematic mental harm - destroying the homes and livelihoods of the people.
Item C: Israel is deliberately inflicting conditions of famine and sickness on the civilian population by denying relief efforts from entering the country. Not only that, but they are restricting water, electricity, internet, food, medicine, and all other necessities of life. According to WHO, 1 in 6 children there are acutely malnourished.
Items D/E: To my knowledge there has been no systemic anti-birth measures or forceful displacement of children. Just death instead.
“But Aha!” One might say, “Genocide is a matter of intent, not actions!” Israel can kill all the Palestinians it wants as long as they claim it’s only targeting legal targets! If you think this might be true, please review again the systemic denial of foreign aid to the citizens. What possible motivation could a country have to deny women and children food and medicine? There is none other than a hope to destroy that people.
So yes, Israel will claim to have different motivations but their actions are clear as day.
It’s clear that several of the conditions are met for the international definition of genocide (remember, only ONE condition is required). Whether the nations in charge decide to enforce it or not is an entirely different story. The United States seems like it is unwilling to act.
but legally it only needs to satisfy ONE of these conditions, ...
any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
No; reread that. It must satisfy TWO conditions, any of the lettered items as well as an an intent to destroy in whole or in part, which Israel has not exhibited. According to their statements, they want to destroy Hamas, not Palestinians. Israel has a sophisticated intelligence network in order to select targets and even built AI to select legal targets faster than humans can, which would be an odd thing to do if they simply wanted to destroy Palestinians and weren't trying to follow international law. Israel's tolerance for collateral damage has clearly gone up, but that does not a genocide make.
If you think this might be true, please review again the systemic denial of foreign aid to the citizens. What possible motivation could a country have to deny women and children food and medicine? There is none other than a hope to destroy that people.
Israel is letting aid through, just not as much as the belligerent nation attacking them would like. If you want to know why, here's an article about it;
Israel wants to pacify the ones who are attacking them. They want safety. If Israel wanted to destroy Palestinians and didn't care about international law, I suspect they could have turned the entirety of Gaza to glass in a day. If they wanted to starve Gazans out it's odd that they are letting an average of 100 trucks a day through instead of zero.
Ultimately critics of Israel believe they are responsible for keeping supply lines open to a hostile and belligerent nation while at war with them, a nation they are blockading and attacking but not occupying. I have a hard time thinking of examples of any other nation that has been put into this situation.
It’s about plausible deniability, and it seems to be working for them. They can’t overtly destroy the whole nation because they’d be shunned from global trade.
Intent is very tricky to prove, so yes, Israel will get away with it, and it will very likely be ruled “not a genocide”, legally. After all, they are being abetted by the US. Turns out that the only thing that really matters in international law is being allied with the big players.
But arguing the “legal” definition is a sad excuse for a distraction anyway. What matters is that the death and starvation of many thousands of children continues, and Israel shows no signs of stopping.