A Batman researcher said 'gay' in a talk to schoolkids. When asked to censor himself, he quit
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https://apnews.com/article/dont-say-gay-georgia-batman-187446af4b03ac9a4b8fc4757852b446
I have a lot of questions about different parts of this title that I don't understand, but I support him.
Marc Tyler Nobleman was supposed to talk to kids about the secret co-creator of Batman, with the aim of inspiring young students in suburban Atlanta’s Forsyth County to research and write.
Then the school district told him he had to cut a key point from his presentation — that the artist he helped rescue from obscurity had a gay son. Rather than acquiesce, he canceled the last of his talks.
First of all thank you for saving a click. Secondly, Marc Tyler Nobleman is not just a Batman researcher, he is a symbol. What an absolute Chad.
You misunderstand.
I'm highlighting how the son's sexual orientation would likely not be brought up if he was straight, unless it was relevant to the story at hand.
Mentioning someone is gay just because they're gay is focusing on their sexual orientation for no good reason, just pointing out that they're 'different' and need to be acknowledge as such.
Imagine how difficult it is to try to tell people that you are, globally, the pre-eminent batman researcher...
These policies are riddled with discrimination and hypocrisy. These extremists need two face reality and put a freeze on them.
Comic Book Historian would have been a better title. I thought "batman" might have been referring to an unrelated school or something.
Then the school district told him he had to cut a key point from his presentation — that the artist he helped rescue from obscurity had a gay son. Rather than acquiesce, he canceled the last of his talks.
“We’re long past the point where we should be policing people talking about who they love,” Nobleman said in a telephone interview. “And that’s what I’m hoping will happen in this community.”
They didn't ask him not to "say 'gay'", as the title all but claims. They asked him to participate in the erasure of a relevant gay person from a story he was teaching to children.
What are you talking about?
Was this guy hanged?
This is the second reply you've made that doesn't make any sense, lol.
OP is making a point that the visibility of queer and other minorities in history and in public is more important than the visibility of straight/non-minority people. Their point was that non-minority groups aren't hated and target for who they are unlike minority groups. It is important to display and teach about the humanity of different groups in order to prevent mistrust and violence against them by the majorities.
If you really didn't understand this then you should get your head out of your ass and wake up to reality.
Calm down, no need to resort to personal insults. Rule #1: Be civil.
It seems the guy you're talking about doesn't understand my point. Here's my other post on the matter that can explain it better for you if you're also having difficulty: https://unilem.org/comment/1447121
Or just explain your case better? It seems you're the one who doesn't understand what I'm saying, based on your other reply.
Lol. Not sure why you're calling me a 'dog.' Let's leave the personal attacks at home, eh?
Wait, was it a relevant person?
It's the son of the artist, right? Did the son have anything to do with Batman? Did the son's sexual orientation have anything to do with Batman?
What else is relevant about the son? Was he an artist? A writer? What did he do for a living? Did he have any relevant health disorders? Food preferences? Did he have any children?
BROADLY SPEAKING, your sexual preferences are the least interesting or relevant things in any conversation, unless we're considering dating each other.
I don't know the history of Batman so maybe it's actually relevant, but my gut says it's just not.
who gives aa shit. telling people what words they can and connote say is the censorship in the extreme.
I don't disagree with you at all.
I was responding to someone claiming they were deleting a relevant gay person from history - I was challenging the "relevant" part, that's all.
I personally couldn't care less what this guy put in his presentation.
The son's name was Fred Finger, and he died unmarried in his 40's due to complications from AIDS.
The guy above was joking.
My policy has always been that I don't care what you do in your own bedroom unless I'm involved in it, that is. Mainly, I just mean I don't care to know everyone's orientation. It's not something I find relevant in most situations.
100% stolen from Nanette, a great comedy special/activisty rant by Hannah Gadsby.
Worth a watch even if she's not your cup of tea.
He should have let himself be fired. Then he could have brought a lawsuit against the school district over the matter. The school district would have had to demonstrate their reason to fire him on the record. If the researcher received damages for wrongful termination, the taxpayers would know it's their money that is being frivolously spent to support someone's homophobic agenda.
Probably couldn't get them for wrongful termination. At-Will employment is a bitch.
But he could likely get unemployment for being terminated without cause, which is a different thing.
he was a one time guest speaker. you don't get to claim unemployment for that. and he chose to cancel, not the school
he was a one time guest speaker
In that case, no reason not to walk.
I knew he'd quit. I was just clarifying that waiting to be fired from a job isn't useful from a "wrongful termination" standpoint because At-Will Employment means "wrongful termination" doesn't really exist in any state except Montana. But if he had been an employee, he would have had grounds to collect unemployment if terminated without cause.
If you're curious as to why the title is like that, it should have prompted you to read the article as to why.
Not worth my time
Has numerous comments in this thread, weeping like a toddler because gay people exist
Lol
Lol. Do you think you were being clever?
It'd still be a waste of my time to read the article.
Sorry that's too much for you to understand.
Both. He quit the talk AND quit researching Batman. He is now on sabbatical in a trailer near Bend, OR. He has been drinking since yesterday.
Batman researcher
So a comic book enthusiast? Is this dude the real life Comic Book Guy?
"Worst. School talk. Ever."
The world is way more tribalistic than most people realize.
You say or do anything that goes against the tribe you're in, you're going to have a bad time.
That’s pretty much all it is or has ever been. I’m fine with it though. We are what we are.
I’m just happy to be here to play a little music and video games.
My tribe’s music of course. My tribe makes the best music. Of course I feel that way.
I think you have it backwards. People realize tribalism so intrinsically it doesn't even register.
The beauty of the social justice push we've seen from the 70s to today is that it actively tries to counteract the human tribal instinct to create a more fair and inclusive world. Granted, I'm not sure how successful it's been at removing tribalism... it just seems to have redefined the tribes.
Yes, I'm referring to the school or community as the tribe.
Even if they're wrong, since there's more of them than you, they're right.
They can be so right that they all collectively drink poisoned Kool-Aid.
Tribal behavior is simultaneously humankind's greatest strength and its greatest threat.