There's a lot of things to argue about, but pizza just isn't one of them. It's a chunk of bread with leftovers on it. If it tastes good on pizza, it belongs on pizza; and what tastes good on pizza depends on the tongue probing it.
Pineapple... sausage... anchovies... goat cheese... potato chips... a fucking strawberry slurpee - if you like it, you rock it.
The only wrong option is to abstain from making/ordering the pizza you want because that ingredient doesn't 'belong' there.
For what is worth, that's not how (most?) Italians think about pizza. It's not a "container" in which you put a bunch of things, but each pizza type is basically a separate dish.
I personally don't care what people put on their pizza, I simply avoid places that make "pizzas" in a non-italian fashion, like the american (supposedly NY style) ones where you get crust, 2 fingers of industrial cheese and a whole plant of oregano.
It's very similar for pasta, which many people think as a bread replacement.
This is why their pizzas are so boring. One or two toppings. Come on, get creative with it, Guissepe.
Most of Italian recipes are very simple. The focus usually is on quality on the ingredients and if they are good, a pizza with just mozzarella and tomatoes is already delicious. That said, even in Italy there are plenty of types of pizzas, but most of them don't have 20 ingredients, I suppose the point is that you actually want to taste what you eat, which is not the case when you mix many different things. There is a very messy and rich pizza (capricciosa) with a lot of toppings though (more than one obviously, but this is the most common).
Personally I am a margherita person, simple and boring is perfect, as long as it tastes great.
P.s. Giuseppe :)
simple and boring is perfect, as long as it tastes great.
As a Regina enjoyer I agree 100%
If that's what you prefer, may I recommend the place Where Life Makes Sense instead of "worse Winnipeg"?
That makes sense. But also I find it amusing because Romans had the opposite attitude with food of “you know what everything I ever eat needs? A fuck ton of fermented fish sauce”. Which like, both attitudes are great, but it is an amusing evolution of culture over two millennia
Romans were food snobs too, though. One common insult was "chickpea-eater" because roasted chickpeas were poor people food. Thing is, roasted chickpeas are fucking delicious - I really wish fresh chickpeas in the pod were easier to find (in the US).
It actually makes sense, because Italian history is far from a continuum. In fact, most "Italian cuisine" is actually less than 100 years old!
Preach. My favorite pizza of the last few years is with sliced kebap meat with sauce hollandaise. Sounds disgusting, looks not that appetizing but it's fucking amazing.
That's cuz you never had a proper napolitan pizza you uncultured swine. You'd never open your mouth about pizza again, or call anything you can buy in your America a pizza.
I despise this traditional "that doesn't go on that dish" bullshit.
It was that way with the food where I'm from and well and now the new generation is doing whatever they want with those traditional recipes and making them modern and it's amazing. If you don't like pineapple on your pizza don't have it. But shut the fuck up with your "that's not a pizza". You sound like my great grandma
Edit: I'm from El Salvador and people used to freak out if you suggested that pupusas should have more variety than just pork, cheese and beans. They'd yell at you that it wasn't traditional. Now the young generation is making pupusas with chicken, fish, shrimp, sweet potato, zucchini, and so on, and it's amazing!
the worst is when people are like this for a dish that was invented as a way to use the shitty limited ingredients of the area because everyone was poor and that's all they had back then. That's not even tradition. Or slightly less annoying is when people try your traditional dish from the country your family comes from and say its not correct in some way, but they are from one of the 6 neighboring countries with pretty much the same food but the name is spelled slightly different and have regional plants as seasoning instead.
I don't really see being poor as a tradition. I've seen enough people present racism as a tradititon and I don't like that either. My dad has been facebook'd and keeps wanting to do ancient medicines because "the government took them away from us", and has asked where to get some definitely dangerous substances. There are indeed a lot of things people call tradition that I don't like.
I don't think changing a couple ingredients breaks tradition when most old recipes were just throwing whatever we had together and trying to make it at least minimally enjoyable for bonus points. I guess it's different for wealthy people in the past much like it is now, but if it could be improved cheaply or for free when it was new either due to ingredients or skills and knowledge, everyone would have done it. Some things were probably also just good enough that nobody bothered changing it, but now most people are conditioned to really high sugar and salt or just stronger flavour in general.
Actually one of my time travel fantasy wishes is to see people in the last eat the modern versions of their favourite food. I'd feel bad about shocking their systems with large doses (to them) of microplastics, pesticides, and who knows what else though.
In Poland, some people put fruit juice in their beer (piwo z sokiem), and it is fucking delicious
Fruity beer is also common in Belgium. It's not mixed with juice but is already flavored in the bottle as you buy it. And yes, it's delicious. Kriek for instance is a pretty famous cherry flavored beer.
Also non-alcaholic beer mixed with juice is a pretty decent drink after sports. The slight bitterness and the bubbles makes it really refreshing on hot days.
It's not about a flavoured beer - there's plenty of em. This is about a concentrated form of juice you usually dilute in water. You put it into beer, it turns reddish-pink and a lot of people preffer to drink it that way
Pubs in the UK used to (or still do?) have blackcurrant and lime cordial for this.
"Lager and Lime", "Lager and Blackcurrant" and "Cider and Blackcurrant" were pretty common 20-30 years ago. A shot of cordial (concentrated juice), then filled up with lager beer.
There was also orange cordial behind the bar, but nobody ever drank "Lager and orange". I believe it was some form of crime.
There's also snakebite, which IIRC is Lager, Cider, and a shot of blackcurrant cordial. A great drink to get you off your tits when you're young.
From where I lived, just the lager and cider together was snakebite, and with blackcurrant it was a "snakebite and black" - but I think there was a lot of regional variety (in the UK, at least).
I have heard lager/cider/blackcurrant called a snakebite before though (I remember it causing a disagreement in the pub) - but I've also heard it called a "diesel" (which elsewhere was something mixed with guinness). I'm pretty sure you sometimes got different things in different pubs in the same town.
I suppose pre-internet, we were just relying on the drunk people ordering things to decide what they wanted to call stuff ("what was that purple mixed drink called that made me throw up on my own shoes?").
Yeah, I only ever heard of it from others that had ordered it before. Here in Bristol it was with blackcurrant, but have seen a few different takes in the midlands and London. Weirdly, I had heard of a Diesel too, but knew it as both a Guinness shandy with blackcurrant, and as a blue WKD with coke.
Here it's most often raspberry syrup with beer. Lots of women like it, takes the bitterness out of it. Worth trying if you haven't, the raspberry stuff is in every store basically even abroad, mix with your regular old light beer
Peche (peach-flavored lambic) and framboise (raspberry-flavored) are awesome, too. As expensive as wine but at least it has the same alcohol content as wine.
As a German I have to say that do this kind of regularly. But only with alcohol free wheat beer and grapefruit juice. Really great drink after sport or a long hike
So, not carbonara. Pasta with lemon is awesome, I also love pasta with tuna, both also work together, but it's not a carbonara.
I’m Portuguese and I’ve seen that abomination here. I’m sorry, I thought it was contained. Now, have you guys heard about chocolate pizza for dessert?
one of the best condiments ive ever had was a jar of homemade pickled strawberries. the one who made it refuses to give up the recipe.
A handful of Germans are enjoying Nutella spaghetti. The hot spaghetti melt the Nutella into a sort of chocolate sauce.
I actually don't mind pineapple on pizza, but let me say that after reading this post I understand the haters if this is how they see it
I don't think its the same than combining a sweet fruit with tomato sauce and cheese.
Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.
Just to clarify, I wouldn't order or make pizza with pineapple for myself, but I don't think it's that big of a deal people sometimes make it.
Just eat what you like and don't force your taste on others.
Yeah I once lived with a family in Eastern Europe who would sometimes make dessert ravioli by filling it with fruit and sugar and dusting it with powdered sugar. It was obviously a very different dish than savory pasta but really good actually.
I will go out on a limb here and guess those were not ravioli and some form of pelmeni instead? There are types of them that are usually eaten with sour cream and jam. But the dough used is quite different from the ravioli one, and the filling is cheese (not meat or ricotta/spinach).
Was that the case?
Actually no! But I think they were inspired by pelmeni, but this was ravioli dough. It was in Moldova though, and much of the family had moved to Italy for temporary work. I'm guessing it was a fusion cooking experiment and turned out great and they kept doing it. It started spreading through the town lol. But hey, if it's good it's good.
Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.
Please explain yourself. You can't just say this like it's normal and morally/ethically acceptable.
What is there to explain? If you don't add any savory ingredients to pasta it is not salty or savory in taste.
Same as you can prepare rice savory or sweet as rice pudding or something.
You do know "pasta" just means the noodle, right? It's still pasta if you don't add anything?
There are lots of sweet pasta dishes in the world like sweet kugel or milk noodles.
I just add (cold) applesauce onto (warm) noodles and eat it. If I'm fancy, I make applesauce from fresh apples.
Also, look up portugese Aletria. That's angle hair pasta as it's best.
Pasta is egg and flour. Cake is egg and flour. Society has decided that egg and flour has to be maked in a particular shape and cooked in a particular way to have strawberries with it.
See, the problem is that pizza often gets shared, and these barbarians will order it with pineapple physically on it, like put right on a perfectly good ham pizza, so then you have to pull the pineapple off, let the dog lick the pineapple juice from the pineapple holes, and then you can eat it, but you still can taste the lingering traces of a fruit that should, by all the laws of man and god, be used exclusively in deserts.
It's an affront against nature and pizza.
Downvote away, but you know deep in your heart of hearts that I'm right.
Dude. Your problem is not the pineapple, but that you are apparently surrounded by inconsiderate people.
If you get pizza or any food to share, you should make sure you choose a topping everyone is okay with. If necessary make it half pineapple half pepperoni or whatever.
If you order for a group of people and choose something that is controversial without checking back, you're an asshole.