Worst person clickhole headline et cetera (cw edge of some dairy products)
I've read the best addendum to this too
"Raw milk isn't that big a deal, you just gotta boil it first!"
Back in CA, the "raw water" bazingas were especially wild. They took the "raw milk" thing and somehow made it worse.
It came in these silly glass orbs too. Silicon Valley 
are wild.
Even worse than the raw water bazingas are the alkaline water bazingas. They process their water to be slightly alkaline for "health benefits". As if that would even survive interacting with stomach acid or have any measureable effect on acidity in the body. It also tastes terrible too.
Most common antacids have a pH around 10, and for water to be alkaline it needs to have a pH between 8 and 9, so I guess you'd need 10 to 20 times more alkaline water than antacids for the same effect, as the ph scale increases at a tenfold level.
Would that even work? Intuitively (I dont remember anything about chem) I would guess that you could take a portion of a tums to get the same effect as alkaline water, but wouldn't be able to achieve the opposite. If you drank an enormous amount of alkaline water such that your stomach acid volume is negligible then the ph of the solution would just be the alkaline water ph, right?
Yeah you're probably right. It's just another reason this whole alkaline water thing makes no sense, on top of the fact that your body strictly regulates the pH levels of your blood.
Until your blood is brown 🤎
Edit: if they're drinking "raw water" it's coming from a well which would do that. Methemoglobinemia to own the left
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The worst thing these raw milk cranks have ever done is make me agree with a Matt Walsh take
I hate all of these movements that are tearing down historic gains in public health. Raw milk, raw water, anti-vaxxers. Fucking loser assholes. They just don't have any conception at all of how much death and misery they've never experienced because of public health regulations.
The anti-vax stuff really pisses me off, especially when it's spouted by people born before 1960. Polio killed so many children and crippled the ones it didn't. And practically overnight, we developed a miracle cure in the form of the polio vaccine. Completely eradicated in North America when it used to kill thousands each year. There are people alive right now who can remember losing classmates in grade school to polio.
Then you get into stuff like whooping cough. Basically unheard of for fifty years because of vaccines. Now it's come back and people are finding out it's fucking terrifying to die by coughing up your lungs.
I hate all of these movements that are tearing down historic gains in public health. Raw milk, raw water, anti-vaxxers
I feel the exact same way and I despair when I watch centuries of hard-won improvements in societal health being dismantled and dissolved because of dipshits "doing the research" themselves and finding whatever bullshit fits what they want to believe.
it worries me that ill accidentally buy this shit without realizing its not normal milk and get sick
You can still get listeriosis from improperly made nut milks. Two people recently died in Canada because of that. Listeria bacteria in milk is a particularly serious issue because it can survive and multiply at refrigeration temperatures. So please don't drink unpasteurized almond milk, or try to make your own almond milk using raw unpasteurized almond nuts.
Thankfully the "raw milk" aficionados haven't started targeting nut milks yet though.
Okay about that last part, unfortunately it was incorrect. I googled "unpasteurized almond milk" and apparently "raw vegans" are big on posting "raw almond milk" recipes, which make use of raw unpasteurized almonds. Please avoid this crank behaviour and use pasteurised or treated almonds to make your own almond milk.
Also, I found the instructions in one recipe particularly funny. It involved sterilising the glass containers for the finished milk, but made use of raw almonds and did not involve any pasteurization process afterwards. Struggling to make sense of that...
Also, I found the instructions in one recipe particularly funny. It involved sterilising the glass containers for the finished milk, but made use of raw almonds and did not involve any pasteurization process afterwards. Struggling to make sense of that...
The only time this makes sense is for deliberately fermenting something. But that’s not at all what they’re doing, unless they’re trying to cultivate listeria without letting those pesky mold spores compete
The recipe also said that their raw almond milk only lasts for two to three days in the fridge. Yeah, there might be a reason for that lol.
I also just find the whole set up perplexing. If you're going through all the effort of sterilising glass jars in hot/slowly boiling water or in an oven, surely you could pasteurise the final product yourself? It would just invoke heating the milk to 72C/162F for 10-30 seconds, and then cooling it quickly until the temperature drops below 20C/68F. You can do that with the milk in the sealed containers themselves if you know how long it would take to heat and cool to the appropriate temperatures. Or just use a smaller pot containing the milk, and place it inside a bigger pot, first a bigger pot with hot water and secondly a bigger pot with ice water. And then place the milk inside the sterilised containers after the pasteurization. Do raw milk people think that the pasteurization process changes the taste or kills nutrients somehow? I just don't understand it.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of years of food safety, science and germ theory goes out of the window because cranks believe that heating milk for less than half a minute at moderate heat kills nutrients...
i do typically go for oat milk if im gonna drink it. But for recipes that use milk u cant just sub in nut milk all the time.
... you're kidding right?
Edit: yeh, his actual beard does have that plasticky look to it
The only raw food I want that isn’t fruits and veggies and nuts and.. stuff that’s supposed to be cooked, is sushi.
"Raw milk tastes SO much better, man! That's all we're going to drink once we move out to our new acreage."
i have some fucked up milk addiction where I get straight up cravings for that shit, it's like a special sort of hunger that is only satisfied by milk (nobody needs to tell me about caseomorphins btw, I already know), and it's wild hearing these raw milk weirdos talk about the taste. it already tastes good! it's like they're not happy without the milk equivalent of shooting fentanyl into their balls
Pretty sure these sorts of people are also against water fluoridation as well as vaccines
Consuming raw milk when you're buying it from a small/peasant farmer that doesn't do much to their cows is one thing. Buying it from factory farms or any large scale operation is another thing entirely.
Additionally raw milk is actually really helpful for people trying to make cultures. My aunt and uncle used to make keffir and they had way better results with raw milk than pasturized. In their case the fermentation was actually a way of sanitizing the food of harmful bacteria.
It should be noted that even pasteurized milk can still be unhealthy and cause various health issues, for best results consider 
Consuming raw milk when you're buying it from a small/peasant farmer that doesn't do much to their cows is one thing.
This is how you get listeria.
Im not saying that raw milk is better for you. Im just saying that the conditions of the cows vary wildly depending on situation. Like, even if you think raw milk could be ok to drink a super market is realllly not the place to find it.
Why are we fetishizing small farms? We are communists. You will work in the sovkhoz and you will like it.
Consuming raw milk when you're buying it from a small/peasant farmer that doesn't do much to their cows is one thing.
Pasteurization was invented in the 1860s and they felt like they needed it then.
Edit: Wikipedia says 1886 is when it was first suggested to pasteurize milk. So close enough.
In their case the fermentation was actually a way of sanitizing the food of harmful bacteria.
Wait until you hear about pasteurization. If you're making kefir you're making kefir, if you're sanitizing food there's easier ways
The point I was making is just that its safe if you ferment it, and that it makes better cultures than pasturized milk
Pasturization is woke hippie commie regulation shit Matt. This is what caused the sissification of men! 
Return to tradition and suck it right from the teet. 
/S
People buy this shit? There are remote farmers in my department who will drink it and the communities they live in tend to have high mortality and sickness rates. Definitely not something you want to drink if you can avoid it.
What’s supposed to be the appeal?
It's the idea that if something is "natural" it is therefore good. Of course, if these pseudo-hippies actually cared about "natural" stuff then they wouldn't be drinking milk in the first place.
It’s playing Russian roulette with your gut. Sure you arbitrarily think you are feeling better for now but people are guaranteed to get maimed for life with IBD amongst other things. Milk is revolting when you read what’s in it.
You mean unpasteurized milk or milk in general?
I think people should just stick to cheese and yoghurt.
Yeah. It's so weird. As a kid me and my brother used to have milk with dinner lmfao 🤮
No idea what was wrong with us. Won't touch it now
The only raw anything consumers i support are people who oppose derriving any benefit from the actions of the french 
This raw milk stuff is so weird to me.
I have a friend who is overall completely lactose intolerant. Her parents live out in the boonies and used to have a deal with a small dairy farmer where the farmer would bring his cows by their field to graze and in return they'd get some free milk.
This was raw milk, and my friend would have zero intolerance symptoms when she drank it. Weirdest thing. Eventually the farmer retired, but since they live so close to other farms, they'll buy raw milk when they want to do a dairy based thing so my friend can participate.
So like, raw milk is weird, I saw my friend chug an entire glass and not be rootin' tootin' all day, no stomach pain or anything. But they're in a very unique situation where there's exactly two steps in the supply chain and most people are not in that situation. It's not their standard milk, just treat now and then.
you don't have to drink raw ass milk to deal with lactose intolerance, there's literally lactase pills. there's lactose free milk!
Then they weren't lactose intolerant.
Raw milk still contains exactly the same amount of lactose.
a guy i work with can only drink raw milk too otherwise he has all kinds of problems
its also super expensive
FUCK