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Majority of Israeli Jews believe prison rape suspects shouldn't face criminal charges

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-prison-rape-no-criminal-charges

65 percent believe army punishment is enough for reserve officers accused of sexual assault at Sde Teiman prison

Since Israel's war on Gaza began in October, many Palestinians detained by Israeli forces have said they were sexually abused by troops at Sde Teiman.

However, no one had been arrested for the abuse until 29 July, when military police raided the facility, clashed with the soldiers and took them into custody.

On Sunday, the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) revealed that 65 percent of Israeli Jews thought that the five should be punished only by the army and not face criminal charges.

The same INSS poll on Sunday also revealed that 47 percent of Israeli Jews believed Israel should not obey international law during the course of the current war in Gaza.

15 comments

deegeese

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Prison rape is part of Israel’s genocide of Palestinians.

Makes sense that the majority of colonizers support it.

Zionism is a cancer on Judaism.

BlameThePeacock

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A little bit of whataboutism, but

https://nicic.gov/resources/nic-library/all-library-items/why-americans-dont-care-about-prison-rape-and-what-happens

A majority of people almost everywhere (I've linked the US specifically) don't care about prison rape.

This is not an Israel specific (or even a colonizer specific) issue.

HK65

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The US has a very unhealthy attitude towards prisons as well. It definitely isn't a good source for people "almost anywhere".

FirstCircle

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The US is very fond of prison forced-labor (slavery) as well, and the general population doesn't really care. In fact the general population most likely thinks the slaves (prisoners) suffering slavery is just a case of them getting what they deserve.

cygnus

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65 percent believe army punishment is enough for reserve officers accused of sexual assault at Sde Teiman prison

Clickbait title. The acceptability of this depends on the severity of military punishment.

Linkerbaan

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There was no punishment from the army.

cygnus

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Do you have a source for that? It isn't mentioned in this article, but if true, that's completely unacceptable. Add them to the Hague's list.

Linkerbaan

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3 suspects in Sde Teiman abuse case released after new evidence presented

Three soldiers suspected of the sexual abuse of a Palestinian detainee at the Sde Teiman detention facility in southern Israel were released from custody on Sunday.

In all, 10 soldiers were detained in the case. Last week, prosecutors dropped their demand to extend the detention of two of them.

cygnus

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Thanks for the source. Walking away without any repercussions is not acceptable, even if the five still under remand were really the main perpetrators.

Linkerbaan

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I sincerely doubt the five of them will even face repercussions. If any of them do it will be to save face for the media. The rape abuse has been reported on for months and only when the story got picked up by the UN did israel start pretending they cared.

Israeli military court is infamous for letting soldiers off with war crimes against Palestinians if they just claim it was self-defense (fun fact the lawyers of the soldiers actually claimed it was self-defense)

Samvega

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The acceptability of this depends on the severity of military punishment.

How often does an occupying army censure its soldiers for harming the people being occupied? The occupation is meant to be harmful.

The articles further report that the Army's inquiry concluded that eighteen U.S. soldiers committed war crimes ranging from murder and assault to dereliction of duty. However, not one of the soldiers, even of those still on active duty at the time of the investigation, was ever court martialed in connection with the heinous crimes.

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-vietnam-war-crimes-you-never-heard-of

cygnus

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I'm not going to get into tit-for-tat cherrypicking, but military justice is no joke when applied correctly.

Samvega

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Did the people who actually ordered that mistreatment get punished, or merely the people that carried out the orders?

That's a rhetorical question, we know the answer. Get better at cherrypicking, you found sour plums.

I understand that you feel honour-bound to stick up for the groups you identify as. As an American, I assume? Perhaps as an ex-service member, or as someone related to people in that field. And, likely, as a human. Please understand that I'm not interested. I am heavily autistic. Emotional attachment is rare for me, and instead I interpret things more factually. I do not emotionally attach to the label of human, and I am not motivated to invent reasons to defend humanity as being likely to achieve great moral success. The facts indicate that humans are not doing so. If you wish to change my mind on this, I would be very pleased to see all children fed. They are innocent, after all, and people generally agree they should not be neglected. All I ask is for those moral preferences to be acted on, to the benefit of all living beings.

cygnus

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As an American, I assume? Perhaps as an ex-service member, or as someone related to people in that field.

Wrong on all counts. I really don't know what to say to the rest of your comment, other than I agree that the behaviour of a person towards others — especially strangers — is the best indicator of their character.

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