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Conservative pollster delivers terrible news to Trump — and worse to J.D. Vance

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-vance-2668971703/

During an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," conservative pollster Frank Luntz shared focus group footage of conservative voters who explained why they can't vote for Donald Trump this time — and complained that Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) was a devastatingly bad choice as a running mate.Speaking with ...

Conservative pollster delivers terrible news to Trump — and worse to J.D. Vance

59 comments

morphballganon

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"Harris reminds some men of their first wife. Donald Trump reminds women of their first husband's divorce lawyer, and he needs to back off,"

Those are awfully specific. Sounds like nothing more than a couple anecdotes.

pennomi

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If Harris is anything like my first wife, I’ll vote for her every time. After all, I’ve been happily married to her for 13 years tomorrow 🥰

TheBat

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I also choose this guy's wife

TSG_Asmodeus

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Congrats!

IphtashuFitz

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Congrats! It will be 13 for me & my wife in just about 2 months.

Raiderkev

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Psh... Real men cheat on their wives with porn stars n get married like 5 times. You know, strong Christian values.

corsicanguppy

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13? That's excellent. Married for 9 here, after a brief 25-year courtship.

ripcord

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Good to see it worked out, even after rushing into things.

ZoopZeZoop

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Happy Anni! And, same.

luciferofastora

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Well played, on both the retort and the marriage. May many more happy years comr to you. And everyone else, really, we could all do with some happy years.

Thebeardedsinglemalt

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If Harris is anything like my first wife,

If you've been happily married to her all this time, why are you referring to her as your first wife? And not just your wife?

pennomi

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Because humor requires the subversion of expectations, and it mirrored the original statement nicely.

rothaine

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Because they are Numenorean and unfortunately will long outlive her.

Randomgal

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You never know bro.

NegativeInf

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Trump is most popular with divorced men. So.. probably heard it at least more than once in their focus groups.

yemmly

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I suspect he’s even more popular among sex offenders, but they don’t get polled specifically.

MagicShel

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"Would you have flown with Trump to Epstein island and gotten a totally-appropriate massage from a thirteen year old girl complete with happy ending? And would you vote for Trump today?"

AbidanYre

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But nothing about Trump seems lawyerly.

Makeitstop

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He lies a lot, changes positions whenever convenient, and he's pretty much always involved in one legal battle or another. He's basically the lawyer from every lawyer joke minus the law degree.

Wiz

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minus the law degree

Minus any resemblance of intelligence or logical planning beyond immediate self-gratification.

AbidanYre

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Him driving over a cliff would be a good start.

the_crotch

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Saul Goodman for president

just_another_person

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Yeah, that's kind of wildly specific. First wife? Some people only have the one, or even none.

dhork

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The guy is a Republican, though. They tend to want to trade in their wife for a newer model occasionally.

SleepyPie

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I raised an eyebrow too, what a weird thing to say

Makeitstop

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He does focus groups. It's all about getting more detail, specifics, and answers to open ended questions to (in theory) get deeper insights from a smaller group of people instead of more generic metrics from a larger group. Qualitative data rather than quantitative data.

I wouldn't be surprised if he got those comparisons from participants. But (without actually watching the interview) I would have to assume that he's using those statements to represent mildly negative sentiments about Harris from Republican men, and contrasting it with much more severe negativity among Republican women when it comes to Trump.

ByteOnBikes

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I hope Mr Trump can handle this news. He's really old and all.

marine_mustang

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Don’t you think he looks tired?

elvith

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And weird?

Good_morning

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Doctor?

InternetUser2012

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It's going to depend on the day. It's going to have to be a day where the dementia lets up enough that he can comprehend what's going on.

someguy3

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Luntz said there was no good news for the former president in his newest round of focus groups, with many of the participants admitting they were excited to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris and that they were appalled by Vance.

"They are tired of Trump's abuse and of Trump's personality,"

InternetUser2012

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After a while, the hate, the fear, the racist remarks, it gets old. Just like him. OLD. It's gone on for what 12 years? He hasn't learned anything new because you can't teach and OLD dog new tricks. People are tired of his bullshit and that's what it is, bullshit. Even his dedicated cult has to realize he just spews lies. He never does what he says he's going to do and now his rants are off the rails and that's because......He's old. Dementia DonOLD the weird racist rapist with 34 felonies is just old and tired. He should drop out and seek treatment.

someguy3

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He wants to pardon himself. I'm amazed he didn't before leaving office. But anyway Vance has no chance and Trump likely knows it. His best chance is himself.

InternetUser2012

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He has to win or he's fucked. He's seeing the writing on the wall though, which is why they're already working on a rigged election

P00ptart

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They've been working on a rigged election for at least 6 years.

fluxion

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8 years I've been wondering when people are gonna finally get sick of this clown and it finally seems to be happening.

This is a much needed course correction. I think we've now branched off of the Darkest Timeline and are doing our own thing now.

ZoopZeZoop

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Wait until after the votes are certified to be conclusive.

jhymesba

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And go out and vote as soon as you can. Make sure you know your registration deadline date and check specifically around that date to stop the Trump ratfucking attempts.

Valmond

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And Ukraine starts to get the funding it needs, seems like a decade is what's needed to change things.

Rapidcreek

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The real big problem for Republicans is that Trump is pulling down the Republican down ballot.

SGGeorwell

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Shh don’t tell them

Jimmyeatsausage

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It's ok. They don't read much.

Rapidcreek

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Pretty sure they know. I'll post this...https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/new-senate-polls-show-gains-for-most-democrats-in-battleground-states-217259077922

Etterra

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The best part is the more that you tell Trump to do something that he doesn't want to do, the harder he's going to resist and with him being so desperate, the worst he'll do. So keep telling him you should quit. He's never going to win, he's a loser.

Rapidcreek

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At 78, there's nothing new but a hip.

ristoril_zip

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If (hopefully when) Trump loses he now has the perfect scapegoat though: Just Dance Vance

KevonLooney

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I will ask you to leave Jorkin Depeanus Vance alone, thanks.

BlueLineBae

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JD Vance puts his cast iron in the dishwasher pass it on

MagicShel

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That will sink Vance for good and save Trump face, but all those indictments don't care about face.

5C5C5C

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Yeah this election is do or die for Trump and I'm sure he knows it. He'll probably make good to flee to Russia if he loses and whatever coup attempt he makes doesn't pan out.

P00ptart

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I wouldn't bet on that if I were him. Putin is in a precarious position himself, and if he sees it beneficial to sacrifice trump saying "I caught the American pig!" As an out for his failed war, then trump is going to go in a really bad way. Trump would be best served by going to a fringe dictatorship like NK, SA or venezuela, maybe even Iran. But Russia is not a safe place for him or anybody.

5C5C5C

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Iran wants revenge on Trump for assassinating their favorite general, right-hand man of their Supreme Leader. If he goes to Iran he'll for sure be tortured and then executed.

Also I wouldn't suggest that Russia is safe for anybody. If anything I expect Trump to go there because they have the most kompromat on him, and they'll extort him into coming so they can use him as leverage. At that point you may be right that Putin would hand him over to serve Putin's own interest. But if Trump makes any other choice he'll probably end up drinking some polonium coke.

P00ptart

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You're right, I forgot that about Iran. Point is, he doesn't have a lot of options. But Russia isn't a great one for him, especially when putins war isn't doing well.

5C5C5C

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I think the happy conclusion here is that Trump is screwed if he doesn't win this election. Now let's make sure he doesn't win.

P00ptart

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It's a stacked deck.

Moobythegoldensock

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Nonsense, Trump and Vance are doing great. They should run again in 2028.

InternetUser2012

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Dementia DonOLD will either be dead, in jail, or in a memory care section of a nursing home by then.

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