I don't see it that way. Long vehicles at IKEA, Lowe's, hell even Michael's -- I don't care. Their parking lots are built for that. And the stuff they get.
Long vehicles in a fucking Trader Joes, definitely asshole material.
It really depends on WHERE you park if you are going to park this way. Parking it in the boonies, way way out at the end of the parking lot? Saintly.
Parking it as close to the entrance as possible? Dungeon. 1000 years dungeon.
But generally I agree. This is the purpose of a truck. To haul heavy items that would not fit in a standard or small vehicle. But don't buy a fucking truck for status or for your office job.
How about backing up the truck bed into the entrance doors, so when you get done, you just load it straight into the back of your truck, THEN exit the building, and drive off?
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
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So the people carrying less items of smaller size have an easier time, and the person carrying the larger items to go in the larger truck have to go further away?
Ah yes, logic.
Why not have large parking spaces near the front to accommodate this, not expect people to just park somewhere else.
If you're buying things that necessitate the truck, you won't be carrying them. You'll be rolling your order out on carts. It's a non-issue to have to roll it a bit further.
IKEA and home depot both have loading zones typically where after you're done shopping you can go get your truck, bring it to the front, load up, then be on your way. Costco and Best Buy will let you do it too for big TVs or furniture, and I'm sure other places don't care either. I've definitely parked in the fire lane in front of a Harbor Freight to load up a super heavy hydraulic press and no one cares.
Sam's Club (a warehouse store similar to Costco that's owned by the same company as Walmart) does the same thing. They have a small loading zone in front of the store for people with big purchases.
Yeah, God forbid he wants to actually take stuff home.
That said, if you've got a huge truck (and I live in the country and work blue collar so I get it, sometimes you need one), have a small car too. Trucks aren't cheap, you can afford a Civic for the city.
I’m sure lots of people have stories about getting huge loads home from IKEA in a tiny car.
I once got two 10’ tall wardrobes and a matching dresser home in a Volkswagen.
I am this person. Packing half a house of furnishings into a Mitsubishi Mirage and then driving like 90 miles back to my house.
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When I bought my Miata, it came with a small utility trailer. I've used that trailer to transport home an 8' tall, 4' wide, solid wood pantry cabinet -- not flat-pack; a custom-built, very heavy antique. Now, I'm sad to say I didn't actually use the Miata to tow it in that instance (I think I used my old 4Runner instead), but the point is I could have, and it would've worked.
Get your truck up to the loading area then. Why are you moving huge loads by hand when you have a perfectly good truck for that?
For shopping at Trader Joe's while they're trying to dissolve the NLRB, yes, also the truck thing
What happened to them? I remember back in the day, they were the place where employees from other unionized supermarkets aspired to work, and when they got there, they were happy as clams and in it for the long haul.
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IKEA started as a furniture shipping company (thus the flat packages and the warehouse aesthetic) and many furniture companies like IKEA still ship to your doorstep or beyond often for a similar or better price compared to what individual transport costs.
yes, the sane way to buy furniture from Ikea is to visit the showroom to look at everything in-person, and then give them your address for delivery of anything very large.
Except for the part where they charge extra for delivery. If I'm driving there planning to buy large items I might as well make sure to bring a vehicle that can bring my purchases home with me. Usually that means a trailer - and unlike delivery, renting a trailer at IKEA is free where I live (provided you've bought something).
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Bad faith: "Are you really transporting those products back and forth to test?"
Good Better faith: Seeing and testing furniture doesn't imply not using shipping.
Speculation: For many, use value of products seem less important compared to short-term novelty value, i.e. owning over using. Celebrating ownership might require immediate access regardless of location, showing ability to HAUL the products then displays further power.
But they're not only driving to Ikea. They're on our roads and streets and pedestrians and cyclists.
That’s why they have loading areas. Park your land yacht way in the back of the lot or on the street until you’re ready to put your flat pack couch in it.
Yea you're right they should buy a second smaller car for when they go to certain stores...
If it weren't for insurance I'd be doing exactly that. My truck was in bad shape, but would still get from A to B. I would have loved to replace it with a small, efficient vehicle. But you have to have liability insurance on every vehicle, which is idiotic because liability insurance doesn't cover the vehicle being driven.
Yea but the the environmental cost of a second fucking car would completely negate any efficiency benefit it would offer, no?
My truck had enough miles on it it was only valuable as scrap metal. The dealership offered me $100 for it.
Theere wouldn't have been an extra car built because I chose to keep it, but my replacement everyday car would have been more efficient.
Please explain how taking a large vehicle to a furniture store makes you an asshole.
Fantastic. I couldn't make out what was in between the couches at first and then realized it's a crt/plasma big screen that probably weighs 400lbs. The couches are held at the bottom though by one rope so looks good. Can't imagine anything going wrong.
Good old Louisiana
If you have a 22 foot long truck, you should understand that normal infrastructure is not built for you. Either park way at the back of the lot where you’re not inconveniencing people, or on the street.
Because its too long to park without sticking out into traffic?
Like I don't care what you're using it for, if you cannot park it properly, then don't take buy it or at least don't take it with you.
Most vans and pickups aren't even that long so it's not even as if it's necessitates being that long either.
Ikeas have super large parking spots, they have parking spots for big vehicles and buses. If your car can't fit there, you bought the biggest asshole car in the universe
I don't think ikea even sells furniture that requires such gigantic vehicles in the first place.
That said, furniture is an excellent example of why you could just drive a normal vehicle, a bicycle or a bus to go windowshopping and later have the new furniture delivered to your doorstep by a specialised company and/or vehicle or rent a specialised vehicle for the odd occasion. The cost for society will actually be a damn lot lower.
So you volunteer to be behind him on the freeway as he brings home an entertainment center, a quadruple order of meatballs, and a set of bunk beds piled out the back of his Honda Civic? Ikea is one of the most logical places to drive the big truck.
You can fit that in a normal pickup. I don’t think IKEA sells anything that requires a 22 foot long pickup. Also, who buys entertainment centers and bunk beds on the reg?
I would confidently bet a good amount of money that this truck is their main go everywhere truck and most probably has never been used to haul anything besides shopping.
You think taking a large bedded vehicle to a furniture store is asshole behavior? Well shit, I hope I can fit this entire bedroom set in my car... 🤦♂️
If it's from Ikea, I can probably fit an entire bedroom worth of furniture into my two door Honda civic.
Everything they make is flat packed, and you have to assemble it into it's 3D form after purchase.
I can stack so many of those Ikea items in my tiny shitbox.
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I hate trucks and SUVs with a passion, but I don't really get the hate here. I could barely fit two Billys in my 2015 Volvo V70, or our new kitchen table and chairs because it was too wide.
I'll be installing a trailer hitch ASAP when we move because a trailer is always superior to trucks.
One of those would be better at IKEA
One that large to a furniture store that exclusively sells flat pack furniture, and parking it in an inconvenient way in the parking lot, yes.
You can fit an IKEA bedroom set in a lot of cars, and in all pickups with a >4ft bed.
If you’re going to buy furniture surely you’d need something bigger if you want to take it home yourself?
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It's Ikea, king of the flat-pack. You could fit literally an entire room's worth of Ikea furniture in a subcompact hatchback, depending on which pieces you buy.
(Okay so that's on top of a tiny car, not in it, but you get the idea.)
Not that everyone doesn't do it (I definitely have on my Subaru Outback), but cars typically have really low weight allowances on top since they're usually not designed for hauling on the roof. Even my Outback, a car that comes with a rack and all kinds of accoutrements for it, has a 150 pound limit. So you really don't wanna put much IKEA furniture out there to risk damaging your roof, especially if you hit a bump. Also, damaging your roof or the frame can sometimes total your car, because it is a main safety feature for accidents in which you roll over.
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First of all, that's an important safety tip, so thank you for mentioning it.
That said, I wasn't really intending to suggest carrying stuff on a roof rack. The text of my comment was about hauling stuff "in" -- as in, inside of -- a small hatchback. I just included that Beetle pic because I wanted something showing the amount of stuff you could fit in a small car and couldn't find anything better.
Yeah no prob. I think most people just...don't read their owners manuals. Not just sedan owners either. You see it with big trucks too where people haul stuff that's WAY too heavy for their brakes, or load trailers with the weight all towards the back (asking for fishtailing). Sometimes I think it's a miracle any of us survive day to day.
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Yeah, I learned from experience that my old Ford Ranger can fit more compost in the bed than the suspension can handle. I made it home safely, but that was definitely an uncomfortably sketchy drive.
That looks very similar to how I got a bunch of flatpak furniture home on my Subaru Forester with the roof rack. I can haul tons of stuff in my Subi without much trouble. I just remember to bring some ropes and bungie cords if it's going on top and we're good.
If it's too much (I'm looking at you, 12' firewall sheetrock - that project was a removed) I did the sane thing and got it delivered.
Maybe, maybe not, it's best not to try to find out until you've bought a few large items and then consider it last minute.
Getting yourself into tricky situations due to lack of planning and then making up solutions on the spot are some of the most fun moments in life. 🌞
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Look, I couldn't find a good picture of a bunch of Ikea flat-pack boxes inside a hatchback. Consider the pic I used "representative," not literal.
The point I was trying to make is that that volume of stuff would easily fit in, for example, a Hyundai Accent subcompact hatchback with the rear seats folded down. (I know this for a fact because I used to own one.)
The only reason it needs to be on the roof of an old air-cooled Beetle is that the engine is in the back.
I’ve bought tons of furniture and had no problem at all with my 16 foot long truck that fits in one parking space. I don’t think IKEA sells anything that wouldn’t fit in my truck.
Is there such a thing as a 22ft long truck? I sure as fuck hope not and now I'm afraid to look it up. My guess is they were towing a trailer.
Who down voted you? Now technically given the rarity of drunk drivers actually getting caught, you're probably wrong but only for the wrong reason.
Statistically, though, pickup trucks are more likely to get into accidents. They have a higher per capita accident rate even in many rural areas where there aren't even as many people to hit.
My F-250 is right at 20' long, with the 6½' box. With an 8' box it would be banging on 22 feet.
Fortunately, it's not about "need." I wanted one of these behemoths since I first saw them back in the early 2000s. Now that I have one, the cost of diesel keeps it in the driveway, or I'd be taking it everywhere.
BTW, it gets used. I've hauled 3,000 pounds of tile in the bed, and still has 250 pounds of payload to spare. On another trip, 1,500 pounds of dog food. A freezer. A full-sized couch and loveseat. Bookshelves. A bed. A king-sized mattress. A 6'x6' desk. 2 powered recliners. If we'd had ramps, a Harley Road King. I almost had to haul a buddy's 350 Chevy V8 and transmission, but the sale fell through at the last minute.
I'd like to see your Honda Civic/Miata/Volvo do any of that.
I've hauled in the 1500-2000 lbs ballpark in my Benz wagons. I know a guy who has done ~4000 on a trailer attached to a 90s Civic (no, that was not all that legal or safe).
Big trucks are kinda cool (as long as you don't drive and park like a douche), but they're far from the only way to transport goods. A diesel wagon will get better mpg hauling than your truck will running empty. Plus if you rent a trailer, you can't scratch the bed of your truck (or spill anything in your trunk)
Yes, crew can with an 8ft bed.
I don’t see them often, but they are almost always used as actual work vehicles. Very few people who want a “big” truck want a long truck. It’s just a total pain.
I'm sure they've got parking spots far enough of that no one will complain. I've been to 5 Ikea's, none have had full lots. This seems like a call to attention and drama. (Not sure on whose part.)
He's nice enough to make a sign, at least give the man some benefits of the doubt.
Maybe it's company issued car? Or maybe his work really need a 22ft pickup?
I did give them the benefit of the doubt... by not actually putting that sign on their car!
If they're one of the very rare "I actually need this vehicle", fine, but we don't know.
If they're one of the common "I NeEd tHIs gIAnT veHicLE" people compensating for their own insecurities... not done, but also more likely.
No one here genuinely hates tradies (etc) who genuinely use large vehicles... we hate people who buy them without needing them, because too many of them suck for everyone.
I drive around a big ass bus for work, and sometimes private. I van fit in every parking spot a normal car can fit in. Hell, sometimes even better, because the front wheels are all the way in the front. I can fit about 8 times as much inside my bus that people can pun on their yank tanks.
Preach brother/sister/other!
My family car (1) is a 7-seater 'bus'. I fit an entire bathroom kit in it from the hardware store.
No tank required.
Normally in a parking space like almost every van I see in department store parking lots?
I have a 2008 Dodge Sprinter. I take two parking spaces (pull through, not straddling,) every time I go to the hardware store or a protest. Only real use I have for the thing is hauling shit. Mine is 24' 1". I actually scout for a good parking lot nearby if I'm going to use the thing, as it absolutely will not fit into a single space. I also have an E-bike and a Chevy Bolt for running errands, or picking up people/groceries respectively.
There are definitely exceptions like your van, but overall vans just aren't that long. Most people who want something that big just end up getting a bread truck. Now those you have trouble parking, so I can see why you got the van.
Ok, I don't know enough about cars, vans, parking or the imperial system to understand why a van would fit in one space but this car cannot.
The average tansport van is about 18ft long. And the standard U.S. parking space is also 18ft long, this means the average van will still slightly stick out no matter what, but by no means as much as a 22ft beast on wheels.
There are also older model vans, which are more common, only reaching 16ft in length, so those will be able to properly park in standard parking spots.
Vans are made to be practical and have as much cargo space as possible.
They have more space while being smaller than a truck.
A truck is mostly made for looks and to be big.
There is a reason why in Europa we almost never see a truck when our roads are full of vans.
If this person works in a trade that requires heavy hauling of equipment and matrials, fine. They need this truck.
If this person is using it to make up for personal inadequacies then fuck them for buying a monstrosity that pollutes like hell and wasted gasoline.
To be fair, going to IKEA is a defensible application for a vehicle like this. Some of those flat packs are pretty bulky.
You're going to purchase a 22ft truck just for Ikea trips? How often are you going to Ikea for large furniture?
Perhaps there are people who don't keep a fleet of differently-sized trucks so as not to overshoot.
Right, so these people are going to drive a 22ft truck everywhere because they might go to Ikea at some point in the next 5-10 years?
I went to Ikea with my Honda Civic and strapped my order to the roof of my car. It was awkward for 1 day instead of being awkward every single day.
Maybe they're doing work that involves moving a bunch of furniture around and they get a portion of it from IKEA?
Silly. For whatever reason they have access to a big truck. Going to IKEA today: do I take the Toyota Starlet or the big truck? I'll take the big truck.
If we're talking working at IKEA as like a delivery guy yeah but as a normal dude you don't need a full size pickup for a once a year thing even I a dude who lives in the middle of nowhere Vermont and have to haul firewood to stay warm during winter my willies jeep does the job just fine and that's a car that doesn't even have a bed I just have a crap ton of horsepower and a trailer people forget that jeeps entered the civilian market as a work vehicle for farms and lumber yards
If you're picking up something big from IKEA, you probably borrow whatever you can. Maybe your cousin has a big-ass truck they can let you use.
I once rented a cargo van to buy a mattress and bed frame from IKEA. It turned out that I didn't need the van at all and could have packed everything into the 4-door sedan I had at the time. Part of it was because the mattress was rolled up in a compact manner. I seem to recall that the van could easily fit in one spot.
It's easy to figure this out. Just look in the bed of the truck.
If the truck bed is clean and empty, you've got yourself a Pavement Princess.
if you look at the bed and it's empty, but dented and worn, you high the owner of that truck if you see them for using it properly.
If it has shit in the bed and it's pristine and mint, you scowl at them for owning a new truck.
the only road vehicles longer than 20 feet that i know of off the top of my head are busses, and box trucks, and im guessing this is a box truck.
Neither of those are cool enough for someone with a small dick to drive as a daily lmao.
Looks like a dodge ram pickup. Stock they are 229 inches long. That's 19 feet. If they have a front cattle guard and some kind of towing accessories in the rear it could be 22 feet. Hopefully a work truck, and I assume it is with the note....... Otherwise definitely small dick energy hahahahaha
There's also much longer vehicles that suit different purposes that people use without issue. We have no idea what their day-to-day work is and this might be the best possible option for them.
The small dick kill the environment type trucks usually don't focus on long truck beds.
And those longer vehicles aren't really made to run errands or fit in regular parking lots.
They aren’t, but not everyone can afford two vehicles. I can imagine a person getting an extended cab truck for both errands/family and work. And if this is the case, what are they supposed to do?
Vehicles are expensive.
The picture in this case even says this truck is at Ikea. Is a furniture store where you might be loading lots of big shit really not a use case where bringing a long bed truck makes sense?
Are those tradesmen hauling heavy equipment like the above commenter mentioned? A small van works great for a plumber, not so much for an excavation company. Although i doubt this guy is about to dig up the ikea parking lot.
Even my company work van is only like.. 15ft long.. and it can fit basically anything I'd ever need to use for construction related needs.
If it does, can someone tell me where I can buy one?
Edit: asking for a friend. Obv.
My work van is about 1 & 1/4 parking spots long. We got a smaller van recently and it really is more difficult to fit everything for a big job. Luckily we work rurally mostly so parking is not an issue. Some industries really do need larger work vehicles.
For reference on our bigger jobs. We carry 300-500 foot rolls of piping. Once prepered for a job the roll has a diameter of 6-8 feet. We also need other equipment and materials as well as an overwhelming amount of tools available.
That's definitely worth having an oversized vehicle for. I'm not questioning that at all. The supersized pickup with an 8ft bed and seating for 12 is where the fuck cars frustration comes in.
I'm sure that's correct, as to the best of my knowledge you don't need mattresses or couches in construction.
Yeah, and we don't use mattresses or couches in Europe either because we can't fit them in our cars.
considering the "bed" is just over 10ft long and about 6ft tall, I could fit most mattresses, as well as most normally sized couches in the back too. A single king sized foundation would need to be angled though.
Right, because they had absolutely no choice but to buy a truck so goddamn oversized that it can't fit in a spot. Fuck that guy.
To those saying it's a truck at a furniture store: Y'all, it's IKEA. Almost everything is boxed, you don't need the truck. I manage just fine in a Mini Cooper (although admittedly that's because of the hatch back, my Ford sedan has some trouble on the longer boxes).
That said, trucks have a place. Just not sure why they're allowed to sell to normies such long trucks; we really need regulation on that. It's getting rather dangerous in parking lots for the exact reason this guy put on his notification. Trying to get out of a spot with a long vehicle next to you is a bit of a roll of the dice because of visibility especially.
Not absolutely everything. I got my wife a wicker rocking chair from Ikea years ago when she was pregnant as a nursing chair and I had to strap it to the top of my car with bungees. But it was still just a sedan. I didn't need a big truck.
Okay, go buy a couch. Or a table.
Even with the hatchback open you're not safely fitting a couch in there, a box that's 37" by 69". Mind you, that's just one of the 4 boxes.
My compact SUV can just barely it all the Morabo couch boxes in a single trip...
Plan on buying more than that couch? Too bad. Not fitting.
that's why we don't have couches or tables outside of USA. You just can't go buy them and there's no very easy and practical way around it.
If only there were companies (perhaps even the ones you bought furniture from) who had speciallist delivery vehicles for the twice in a decade time you need to move funiture.
Alas it isnt to be.
Alas, if only I had free delivery with my couch and loveseat I purchased. If only they had something like that as an incentive to get people to buy furniture.
Woe be us.
You can just rent a truck for such cases. Most truck use cases are so rare for the average person that renting is cheaper than buying a large truck. Also, a lot of these large pickups have a auprisingly short 🛌.
Every time I read this take I am a little surprised it's so prevalent. I guess I just go to the hardware store or IKEA or get free furniture on the side of the road more than nearly everyone else on the Internet. I would LOVE a truck, since my Subaru often isn't big enough for what I need/want to do. Now granted, I want a small truck with a full size bed that can fit a sheet of plywood, not a giant hauler for a boat or RV*, and certainly not an inexplicable 4-door truck for hauling people with a 6-ft bed like you mention, but it's still wild to me that there aren't more heavy DIYers or even new home owners like me on Lemmy. Maybe I'm on the wrong instance.
*Technically we could probably get away with a truck like that since my wife needs to haul giant boat trailers for work, but they provide a rental. We'd probably make more money with a reimbursement using our own, but I don't have space to store a giant F350 or whatever because we DO have a giant RV, but not a tow behind because I don't like them.
https://minitrucks.net/ they have kei trucks that are already imported into North America, and Australia it seems, and their prices seem reasonable.
They're not highway legal in at least several states. I also don't think they're capable of highway speeds anyway though
Holy crap I've always wanted an Acty, but I thought they would be more expensive to import and what not. Thank you so much for posting this link!
When I last moved, I fit my six person dining room set in my VW Passat at the same time. The table was partially disassembled, all the chairs were whole. Pretty sure there was other stuff in the car at the time too. Regular people don't need these giant pickups.
I fit an entire Kivik (sofa with chaise) into a Nissan Rogue no problem. It's impressive how effective their sizing and modularity is.
My partner is a professional woodworker. Turns out, we haul a lot of very large stuff. You might be surprised to learn that many people utilize their trucks.
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I think you would be quite surprised how little the vast majority of consumer trucks are utilized.
Leave the city and its uncommon to find a moderately underutilized truck. The Ford F150 is the most popular vehicle in america for a reason, and it's not because people like trucks. It's because they use them. Towing capacity, cargo space, gravel or dirt roads. Live in Michigan with tough winters? Have fun in that shitty sedan.
That said, american trucks are definitely oversized and the average owner would get the same utility out of a Kei truck.
Sedans are people movers and are designed for paved roads. They can certainly survive tough winters, though, and I wouldn't call them shitty. You would be an idiot trying to go camping in one though, for that occasional trip I'd rather rent an SUV.
It's a niche, though. My subcompact is the absolute best city car I've ever been in. When you're tiny, parallel parking is a breeze, getting through tight city streets is easy, and climbing hills is simple. Many city streets are thin because they're were not built with cars in mind.
As for popularity, do keep in mind the cities are home to 80% of the US population. The truck isn't getting it's sales strictly from rural buyers, you can thank a fair amount of pavement princesses for that!
There's lots of use cases in cities, too. As you said, most people live in cities, which means most construction work (both for businesses and for private citizens) will be in the city. While the companies that businesses contract with will usually have their own fleet of vehicles, many private citizens contract with smaller privately-owned companies. Many of them use their own vehicles for transportation. (I'm friends with the heads of three such companies in my area.)
Construction supplies (wood, pipes, etc.) like the kind many contractors get at Home Depot or Lowe's is usually pretty long, so they would benefit from having a really long truck. Many of those companies usually need that supplies ASAP, too, so they get it themselves instead of having it delivered. Or, if they know they'll need it, they order it ahead of time and pick it up themselves when it's ready rather than trusting others to get it delivered on time. As others in this comment section have said, long objects like that create a risk of impalation. So the longer the truck, the better in that case. Not to mention they also need to store their tools and stuff in the truck alongside whatever supplies they've purchased.
As far as gravel and dirt roads go, a Subaru, or just an SUV with 4 wheel drive is going to perform better off road. Pickup trucks have stiffer suspension, and larger overhangs with the truck bed that require them to be lifted higher to get the same clearance as other non-pickup style off road vehicles.
If they aren't being utilized for their stowage or towing capacity, then they are being underutilized, as there are just better vehicles for off road use.
Personally, I'd take a Subaru sedan with all wheel drive over a pickup truck, for a place like Michigan.
I specified normies in my comment because trucks are for utility. If you need it for work, honestly it should be a licensed thing. After all, you can also write it off your taxes and maybe even get it covered with subsidies.
They generally don't need to seat a family of four, nor do most benefit from a lifted bed, though. A simple cab and an easy to reach bed make for a more efficient transport.
That's why just about every shop selling items larger than the boot of a regular car offers delivery.
Like sure, it's not free, but it's cheaper than the difference between a regular car and a Fall Guy truck.
Use a trailer, get a rental truck, get it delivered. All options a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a truck and paying the cost of a truck plus the fuel for such a horribly inefficient daily driver
Unless you're transporting couches regularly of course. Then a truck makes sense
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I need the third dimension on that box. I absolutely could fit a 37" × 69" × 12" box in my SAAB 900 SPG, load in smaller boxes, and still close the hatch. I know this because I fit a bureau in the back that was 40" × 70" × 30".
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Plumber, carpenter, construction, woodcraft, metalworker, etc etc. There are plenty of good reasons to own a large vehicle. People who use a large vehicle for its intended purpose aren't the problem, it's the assholes driving them for fun that makes everyone else unsafe.
So much accusations and assumptions. What if the owner is a construction worker doing custom kitchen deliveries, and needs this monster for living. You sure can't haul a kitchen kit in your man's Toyota Aygo or Fiat 500.
What if he’s got to move these refrigerators? What if he’s got to move these color tv’s?
What if he’s got to move these refrigerators? What if he’s got to move these color tv’s?
That ain't workin'. That's the way you do it.
How about a rancher, car hauler, or farmer.
Far too many people have no concept for legitimate need for such a monster of a vehicle because they only know assholes who want a big truck for the sake of having a big truck.
To be fair, the majority of truck owners have no need for the utility, and just want a big truck
How come not a single contractor, farmer or hauler needs one in any other country?
If you turned up to a building site in one of those you'd get absolutely laughed at for your fucking stupidity
Have you ever been to another country though? The kinds of cars handymen in Europe prefer are usually a van like T6 or Sprinter, the latter being 20 feet long. For a good pro, their van usually contains a supermarket's worth of tools and materials nearly assembled and ready to use. You can't just assume America is the only place that needs hauling stuff.
That was exactly the point I was making. For a contractor, a pickup is one of the least useful vehicles.
My point was that in other countries, everyone uses vans or lorries
Other countries have vehicles that are sized to accommodate the conditions; smaller roads, less space, and different emissions laws. America wasn't built based on 1,500+ year old roads.
You can't have an 8ft wide dually with a 20ft trailer to take an excavator to a job site in London, you need a lorry. You would be laughed at because you can't maneuver that setup around and would get fucked in pinch points on a one-way street.
Said like someone whose driving test involves mostly ordering a burger at a drive through 😂
Yous'll think up any excuse for your tiny-penis trucks despite nobody else in the world, including those in bigger countries with worse roads, requiring them
A van would totally fit for this sort of job, as you can just put your tools inside your van. If you need to carry something longer a mini-truck will do too. Pickup truck is an offroad machine and suitable for a lot of offroad application, but more often than not a lot of people use it on asphalt and 99%of the time not hauling anything.
The top 3 vehicle being sold in US in 2023 are all pickup. The accusation and assumption is very much warranted.
The cropping makes me suspicious. I don't know what vehicle it is or where it is. Feels like engineered rage bait.
Exactly this here. Give people an open online discussion platform and they will turn it into Twitter.
How do you know it isn't? The picture looks intentionally framed to obscure where this vehicle is parked or even what it is.
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You sure can’t haul a kitchen kit in your man’s Toyota Aygo or Fiat 500.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. With Ikea flat-pack cabinets and a small enough kitchen design (e.g. galley kitchen in a tiny apartment), I wouldn't be surprised if you could fit everything except the appliances in one of those tiny cars.
Of course, it'd probably be easier to fit them on a bicycle with a proper trailer.
That's an amazing trailer! Add in an ebike and you could haul almost anything you need for the vast majority of home projects.
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What, the tiny car thing or the bike trailer thing?
I don't have an Aygo/500 or a fancy Bikes at Work trailer, but I have hauled stuff in the Hyundai Accent hatchback I used to own and towed cargo in a cheap Instep bicycle trailer.
(I admit, a Hyundai Accent hatchback is quite a bit bigger than an Aygo or 500, especially with the rear seats folded down. It can hold enough that I'd be more worried about maxing out weight capacity when hauling flat-pack cabinets, rather than having sufficient cargo volume for them.)
i mean, most parking lots have back to back spaces, so it sounds to me like they've pulled in the first one, all the way through to the next one. I see no problem here, large trucks like this have to stop somewhere.
Beats parking in the lot sideways LMAO.
When I drove a small school bus, and I needed to park it somewhere in between the times I was transporting students, I generally looked for a spot at the edges of the lot to back into, where the back of the bus would overhang over the curb (I made sure it would never disturb any sidewalk). Of course, I did several times see full-sized school buses diagonally parked across 4 spaces at the far end of a large parking lot; after all, there's not much else you can do with such a large vehicle.
yeah school busses outside of parking lots at schools or depots are pretty hard to deal with. Unless you want to park it in your driveway, maybe.
large trucks like this have to stop somewhere.
Do they? Are these big trucks necessary at all outside of a construction yard?
To be fair, its ikea. Its appropriate to have a truck there to carry a lot of furnuture back.
uh yeah, have you ever seen a moving truck? They're all large big box trucks, if you've ever been in a more affluent neighborhood you'll have seen an RV, whether towed or not. You've seen garbage trucks (though those don't really count, as do most other industry trucks)
especially considering this is relevant to ikea.
like i'm cool with bitching about f150s being large and shit, but trucks that are 22 feet long are a bit of a different story.
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Well at a furniture store I can understand. Maybe it's someone from a business buying a lot of furniture.
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They should stop on the dealership lot lol.
My friend and I used a Uhaul to move cross country once, and it was hard enough for us to park places along the way, and we could mostly fit into normal parking spaces IIRC.
We had considered also pulling a trailer, but I have no idea how we could have gotten food in towns, parked in crowded lots, etc. It would have been a lot more planning if we had a longer vehicle.
That's right. You're an "___HOLE" for buying a fucking 22 foot long truck and then trying to use it as a car.
I mean, the meme says at an IKEA parking lot. If ever there were a completely valid time to use that truck and park it in a lot, that's it.
I once fit an IKEA mattress, bed frame, and slats in the back of my hatchback, with enough room leftover to make a grocery run.
I've done that too back when I lived in the city, with the bed boxes all the way up into the front of the car, interfering with my stick shift if I hit a bump or slammed on the brakes, and just generally being unsafe. My point isn't that it's impossible to buy things at IKEA without a giant truck, my point is if you own a giant truck, for work or because you DIY constantly or own a boat or RV...this is literally the exact situation it's built for. You CAN handle the situation other ways, but why would you if you already own a truck?
I hate giant fuck off oversized trucks as much as the next guy, and if this was sitting in someone's driveway as their only car, with nothing to haul, a clean bed, and you only see them take it to the grocery store... Then yeah let's all shit on them together. But everyone is so carried away with hate they're dunking on a guy doing one of the best use cases for this truck and actually being polite about it!
Yeah I was mostly just poking a bit of fun lol. I don't really agree with the sentiment that transporting flatpack furniture is the exact scenario for a 22 ft. long vehicle though. Like, IKEA furniture is explicitly designed to be light, compact, and easy to transport so that you don't need a large vehicle to haul it. That being said, bringing your giant pickup truck to transport IKEA furniture is certainly a better use for it than a daily single-passenger commute.
Why not? That's the reason you get a 22 foot truck, because you need to haul a lot of things at once. Maybe you are furnishing your entire house, maybe one of 45000 other possible legitimate reasons to haul a lot of things. I don't own a truck, and I usually assume anyone driving one of these huge ones is a maga these days because around here that's what they mostly are.
But it's a little nuts how many people think that because they've never had the need to haul more things than will fit in a sedan or small hatchback or shortbed pickup, no one else does either.
I too have filled a hatch back with Ikea stuff and panicked the whole time thinking it wouldn't all fit and I'd have to return something. If I had a truck I would've brought it.
You know, it doesn't say how they’re taking up two spots. If they’re going about it long-wise, then I’d be okay with long ass vehicles taking up two spots. I’ve seen cars/trucks with trailers do it all the time.
Now if they’re parking like a BMW and taking up two spots that way, then sure, they’re kind of an ahole. Slightly Less so if at least they parked in the boonies.
I think the assholery entirely derives from where in the lot they are. First half of rows? Fuckin asshole. Ass end of the lot? You're fine. I'm not gonna assume this person doesn't have a reason for owning a larger vehicle, that'd be unreasonable. I'll judge based on the actual information present, and it seems like they're at least TRYING.
That's the second time I've noticed the word boonies and they were both today. What does it mean?
Short for "boondocks," which just means out in a rural area (or in this case, the far end of the parking lot).
I'm too lazy to look up the etymology though.
Thanks. I was clearly too lazy to Google it either! Have a good day, helpful internet steanger.
Boonies (n): a thinly settled rural area
Boondocks (n): a remote, thinly settled rural area
(They both have basically the same definition, but I thought I'd still put them both for good measure.)
I mean if it's for mostly utility and work I'll give this a pass.
Also most of the time the a-holes take 2 width worth of parking spaces. Rarely I see 2 parking space long.
When I used to have a beetle I used to park behind super long trucks at major events when there was no parking spaces left... So.. win win.
This would have to be a HD truck with an 8ft bed and a crew cab. I don’t see anyone driving those things around for fun.
The lifted truck crowd is doing short beds.
i'm willing to bet lots of money this is actually just a box truck, look at the interior and roof line, it's just a box truck.
I’m not seeing that. Logo on the steering wheel seems likely to be a Ram. Though, I can’t entirely make it out.
you might be right about the steering wheel logo. Though i'm still willing to make that bet lol
It does seem that there are box trucks based on the Ram pickup chassis, but I don't think I've seen those in person. Most box trucks I see here in Canada are either based on a van chassis (usually Ford Econoline or Chevrolet Express/GMC Savana, but sometimes European-style vans like the Sprinter), the Ford F-650/750, or an actual truck chassis, like an Isuzu cabover or something from a company like Kenworth or International.
Also depends on where. If they parked in a mostly empty area of the parking lot, ok, who cares. If they park in the closest possible place that can fit them, well, that's not cool.
if it's for mostly utility and work I'll give this a pass.
What is the utility or work application that requires a truck that can't fit in a regular sized parking space? There are plenty of trucks that fit in regular sized parking spaces, what is the special use case here that needs to be 22 feet long?
In the US, all metal tubes/pipes/stock for metal-working related tasks (welding, plumbing, structural stuff) comes in 20ft sections. The three options that I know of for transporting them are: trailer, box truck or roof rack.
A 22foot truck with roof rack would be perfect for someone who works with metal e.g. a plumber. A smaller truck would work but then you’ve got a bunch of pipes hanging off like you’re in a jousting tournament.
20 foot pipes on a roof rack sounds like an impalation waiting to happen, regardless of the size of the vehicle underneath.
Trailer or box truck delivery to their shop where they can cut it to length and transport it in a smaller vehicle if it fits. And if it doesn't, use the trailer or box truck to deliver it to the site.
Most of the time, I'd guess that pipe that long is involved in new builds or major renovations.
Or, at the very least, make these oversized trucks require a business or trades license if they are truly the best option for some business or trades scenarios.
Aright then, how about for a ladder? Do you want to drive a box truck or trailer around to hold one ladder and painting supplies or whatever?
At least a ladder can be secured with more than just friction on the sides, so I'm not as concerned about the safety.
People were able to move ladders before oversized trucks were a thing.
But it would work with the "limit them to businesses and trades people who actually benefit from having an oversized truck instead of a small or normal sized one".
What benefit does a longer truck provide to towing? A stronger engine and a stronger frame does not require a longer frame.
Crosswind stability and you need the larger bed for tighter turning with the gooseneck or fifth wheel hitch.
Choosing to buy an impractical vehicle does not give one a pass to park incorrectly
Technically, parking with a part sticking out is still parking incorrectly.
Taking up two spots, while still incorrect, is still safer for all involved and won't potentially block traffic. I'm speaking as someone who has nearly hit a truck that was sticking out while turning into a parking lot (I wasn't able to see the truck prior to turning) on at least a couple of occasions.
Safety > Convenience
He's parked at an IKEA. I'm willing to bet he's a contractor that needs that long of a truck to fit everything he buys (including stuff from Home Depot or Lowe's).
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Do you think the first long truck sprang into existence in 2008? We've had super long trucks for specific use cases as long as we've had trucks. This is like one of the few times a person has a good reason to have a large vehicle, and is being safe and polite about it by staying out of the way and writing a polite note to explain. Large vehicles aren't the problem, people owning large vehicles who don't need them are the problem.
Contractors did exist. Innovation usually happens because enough people have a want or need for something for some reason. It's entirely possible (or even likely) that long trucks came into existence because contractors had a need for them. Ford and other truck companies saw an opportunity to make money from that need and obliged.
Idk man, these parking spots get tighter all the time. And making a poor decision to purchase a vehicle on the market should not invalidate a buyers frustrations. Compatibility between car manufacturers and parking spots are getting worse. Also, some people are overloaded and they take up two spots at the back of the lot. I don't see anything wrong with that. Hauling a trailer but needed to stop by for some groceries before your camping trip in a lot that doesn't have trailer parking, that person should have the freedom to go take two spots at the back.
Do you have a source for your claim that parking spots are getting smaller? I've personally seen the exact opposite.
I never said they're getting smaller. I said tighter as in it's tighter to park in them because cars are getting bigger. And I'm not talking your F350 extended bed and cab super truck. You can just look up any articles. Appyparking did a study on it. American parking spots with the double lines are few outside of Costco.
https://appyway.com/blog/press/parking-is-the-most-stressful-part-of-driving/
Not sure why I'm getting down voted here. The people here get upset over the silliest things. Parking sucks. People are stressed. Stop yelling at someone for buying a car too big for parking. Not everyone is driving a prius, and everyone has a right to buy a vehicle on the market and expect for it to comply with all standards, including parking.
Well, "compact" parking spots are about a foot narrower and developers see a way to claim more parking spots for the same area.. To the extent they can get away with it I think they do it more.
Anybody parking an oversized vehicle in a compact spot is definitely a jerk. Those are exclusively for compact cars, no ifs ands or buts.
I think this is the nicest way to go about parking a vehicle like this. I might think it's a bigger vehicle than necessary, but this is not the person who should primarily receive hate for their choice of car.
exactly, it could be their work vehicle and they don't have a choice! people like to view it from their hate colored glasses and make assumptions. I used to drive a big box truck when my car died, it took up two spaces, but I'm an asshole for not buying a car that meets your criteria, got it!
As the person driving is extremely likely to have been the buyer, yes, they deserve the hate.
No, they don't. It's bad that someone buys this to begin with, and yeah it sucks that they're taking up two parking spaces, but why direct your hate towards a person who actually seems to have a better attitude than 99% of people driving similar vehicles?
Depends on where they parked. If it's way out of the way, then no one cares, they aren't using a parking spot someone wanted anyway.
If they are right at the front of the store, well that's a bit entitled.
My work truck is a Silverado 2500 HD, so a pretty big pickup with a topper and a bed in the back that rolls out behind it to hold all the parts I need to repair things on-site. Because of this, I usually park halfway past a parking spot into the one in front of it (but far from the entryway) so I can extend the bed behind the truck without it going into traffic and causing a dangerous situation for me and other people.
One day while I was fixing something inside, some nosy Karen put a note on it saying I should buy a smaller vehicle if I can't fit it in a single parking spot. Like, ???? I didn't choose the model of vehicle and I parked that way to be as out-of-the-way as possible! But I'm sure they felt very smug writing that note. All I'm saying is you should never assume someone else's situation...
I see your point and can agree with it to a degree. However, where I'm from, the sure amount of trucks that look like they have never been used for hauling, construction work, contract work, etc. is a large number. There are so many trucks here that I'd say about 1/5th of them are raised, extended axles so that the truck tires stick out from the wheel wells a good 3-6 inches, wider tires, custom muffler, aftermarket chrome accessories, aftermarket or custom grill, break light tint (for whatever fucking reason that makes sense to them,) and rarely a custom exhaust pipe to mimic semi-truck smoke stacks.
I straight up believe you don't utilize your truck if I don't see some dirt, dings, scratches, you're hauling something, or see something in the back of your truck (which is hard to do when your fucking truck is ridiculously raised up.)
I completely understand. I've caught myself saying to my fiance "that's a work truck" a lot whenever I see trucks I like. I drive a truck that I use for work. My definition of a work truck is a lot like mine, not a small bed, if there is a lift it's for function, not looks so unless you know what you're looking at you don't notice it. It's got a single or extended cab and it's got some dings and scratches. If you don't know the size of the bed in your truck you don't use it enough. I haul sheets of plywood and drywall often and an 8ft bed would be great but my 6.5 does the job just fine. I'm changing jobs so I don't know if I'll need it anymore but that truck was my livelihood for a long time.
I have to park my work van like this a lot but I always park it at the back of the lot when I do, but would you rather have me blocking traffic to the parking lot if i tried to park in a spot normally? No, you wouldnt, and I probably get asked not to do that again by the store.
The misspelling of really was bothersome... But the 4 dot ellipsis triggers me. That and windshield is also misspelled. I'm not perfect but if I'm gonna print something I'll at least hit spellchecker.
I did a thing with my personal property that doesn't work in society but makes me feel special but I'm not an arsehole