https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/08/did-trumps-vp-pick-jd-vance-just-swift-boat-tim-walz-by-attacking-his-military-record.html
Vance is a former Marine who was deployed to Iraq.
Fucker has the nerve to call Walz a traitor for retiring after 24 years of service when his runningmate incited an actual goddamn insurrection and he, himself, is a fucking turncoat...
Don't get mad. That's what they want.
Get weirded out.
Because that's what they deserve. Said by Mr. Walz himself.
Calling a serviceman a traitor? Fucking weird. It makes no sense, man. Where do they get that weird logic from? Buncha weirdos.
It's really really difficult to take any attacks on Walz's service seriously while captain bone spurs leads the party.
He’s trying. For reference, Vance did 4 years active duty in the USMC in Public Affairs.
Walz, on the other hand, served for 24 years and reached the highest possible rank of NCO, which is basically the most badass thing you can be in the regular sectors of the military (and in the aggregate the most critical for its good operation.)
TLDR: Tim Walz's record trumps Vance's any fucking day of the week.
NCO isn't considered bad ass but is absolutely given all due respect. You'll salute NCO's just like any other officer, but you know he's less likely to give you shit about uniform reqs. My favorite grey beards were always the Short TImer NCO's that didn't have 2 fucks to rub together about protocol.
Another thing is Tim should whip out his Rack and slap Vance with his silver oak clusters.Vance didn't even get a GWOT! Vance only has a couple participation trophies. Walz has a bonafied 3" rack.
What? You two both are talking like you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Tim Walz was a Command Sergeant Major, which makes him an E9. This is no longer an NCO, this is a SNCO or Senior Non Commissioned Officer. You also don't salute any enlisted members; E1 or E9, it doesn't matter, you don't salute them. Becoming E9 is quite prestigious though as it is the only enlisted rank to get DV status at bases (at least Air Force bases which I can attest to having spent 10 years in the Air Force myself).
Maybe not in the air force but it's totally a thing for secret agent Delta Recon SEAL Raider Green Berets like aodhswhateverthefuck up there. They're so elite, they'll even salute civilians.
Lol, I don't think they ever claimed to be the military. They're both just confidently incorrect. Technically, there is one civilian who regularly gets saluted, the president.
That's a fair point, I was just enjoying the image of the average "I was gonna join but..." doing sloppy dive rolls down supermarket aisles and saluting anything that moved.
You missed the part where he reached SGM but retired as MSG because he didn’t complete a course. I don’t think many people would drop rank.
Also, I think CSM is technically higher rank?
You have it one too low - he reached CSM but retired as an SGM because of coursework.
There is actually one rank higher, E-9, which is the singular final boss of all the NCOs, which I guess is a significant asterisk I should put to that “highest rank.” He reached the highest rank there is more than one of allowed to exist at a time.
I saw that and immediately thought of Tom Cruise's character in the beginning of Edge of Tomorrow.
Yes, it's bizarre that this doesn't get specifically cited in an article where Vance is criticising his opponent's involvement in a war. All we get is this very vague line:
Vance is a former Marine who was deployed to Iraq.
Vance was a combat correspondent, yes. We'll see how much he tries to press this issue, he has previously stated ^[1] he was lucky to escape any major fighting, but he was definitely in Iraq.
I don't think Walz has ever claimed to have seen active combat, so the stolen valor accusation falls a little flat - not that that's going to stop republicans.
I give it a week before Republicans start building conspiracy theories about Walz's time in China and facilitating student trips to China.
Since I had to look it up:
Since the 2004 election, the term [Swiftboating] has come to commonly refer to a political attack that is dishonest, personal, and unfair.
Have to make up innocuous sounding word rather than just say ASSHOLE SAYS SHITTY THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. "Journalists" literally can't.
And not the respectable kind dodging out of objection to the wars. Nope. He was just a coward who dodged because his daddy could afford to pay a doctor to say he had bone spurs.
Look. I'm not ACCUSING Shady Vance of being a #CouchFucker. It's just that SOMEBODY has to ask these tough questions.
Remember when Rove Swiftboated Tammy Duckworth? Woman lost her legs while piloting a helicopter. She was cut in two. He still had the balls to question her valor. Worked too. But, she ran again and now is a Senator. This is a common Republican ploy.
JD Vance, accused his opponent of “stolen valor garbage” and accused him of having “abandoned” his unit in 2005 ahead of a planned deployment to Iraq.
Vance blasted Tim Walz on the campaign trail Wednesday as stories have reemerged from his 2018 run for governor of veterans criticizing him at the time for “embellishing” his military career. Retired veterans at the time said in a Facebook post that Walz retired from his 24-year tenure in the National Guard after learning that his battalion would be deployed to Iraq.
