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Video of police fatally shooting a pregnant Black woman set to be released, Ohio department says

https://apnews.com/article/pregnant-woman-killed-police-ohio-footage-95daff91130a64bb43848431ea4441af

Authorities in Ohio say they will release body camera footage of a fatal police shooting of a pregnant Black woman.

Video of police fatally shooting a pregnant Black woman set to be released, Ohio department says

Authorities in Ohio say they will release body camera footage of a fatal police shooting of a pregnant Black woman.

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When police departments fight against releasing bodycam footage and only do so under immense public pressure, then still drag their feet and delay as long as possible, that tells you all you need to know.

DragonTypeWyvern

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Oh look.

The video not only shows he had time to get out of the way, it shows him pointing the gun at her first.

bobman

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They really should show the whole footage, unedited.

People should be able to see the reality of getting shot.

willsenior

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Let's see whether or not the officer moved out of the way after firing

Amazed

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What a tragedy. These dumb cops are the fucking problem. Why the hell is he standing in front of the vehicle? Is it so boring that they have to get their adrenaline flowing for a shoplifter? Unbelievable that they can murder a young mother based on an assumption and get away with it. Innocent until proven guilty my ass. A family is devastated.

Hug your loved ones.

willsenior

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TheRealKuni

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Listen, I get the whole ACAB thing, and I think the unjustified shooting of anyone is awful. And I know black people are treated extremely unfairly by the police.

But as someone who (even briefly) worked retail, some shoplifters are batshit. I will not be surprised if the video shows exactly what the police said in this case. Being pregnant is not gonna stop a cop from shooting you if you drive your car at them. And it’s insane to think otherwise.

We need better addiction solutions. A pregnant woman should not be risking her life to score alcohol.

Edit: That said, I also won’t be surprised if the cops lied. Obviously.

Edit 2: Seen the video. She shouldn’t have driven at him, but I do not think he was justified shooting her. His life was not in danger. She was at a dead stop, she could’ve floored the gas as hard as she could and he would’ve been fine. Fucking awful.

underisk

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Somehow she made it out of the store without inflicting her hypothetical murderous shoplifter rage on anyone but I guess she was just like some kind of bull triggered by red and blue lights. Thanks for providing some entirely unnecessary made up context to preemptively justify the actions of people you apparently know are a bunch of lying racist murderers.

TheRealKuni

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Somehow she made it out of the store without inflicting her hypothetical murderous shoplifter rage on anyone

Employees aren’t supposed to engage with shoplifters unless they’re loss-prevention. You let them leave and let the cops handle it. If no one tried to stop her, of course she didn’t try to get past them. Also don’t put words in my mouth, I said nothing about murderous rage.

but I guess she was just like some kind of bull triggered by red and blue lights.

She didn’t want to be caught. She’s a mom with two kids and another on the way, and clearly not thinking rationally or she wouldn’t be shoplifting alcohol. If you aren’t thinking clearly and you don’t want the cops to stop you, driving away (even towards them!) while they try to stop you may seem like a good choice. Again, don’t mischaracterize what I said.

Thanks for providing some entirely unnecessary made up context to preemptively justify the actions of people you apparently know are a bunch of lying racist murderers.

The world is not black and white. A person is not automatically a good or bad actor in every situation purely because of the color of their skin or the uniform they wear, and pretending otherwise is childish.

I didn’t justify anything, I simply said I won’t be surprised if the cops didn’t lie about this situation.

Please learn to recognize nuance. The world will be better if we all strive to understand one another.

Government_Worker666

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A witness has said she put the bottles down before she left the store. I think she was scared of the two armed men using unjustified force on her

TheRealKuni

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Hadn’t heard that. Having seen the video though, I really don’t think they were justified in shooting her. At all. Their lives were not in any immediate danger. Trigger happy fucks.

bobman

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Thanks for admitting that you have a personal bias towards shoplifters.

Rivalarrival

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Young was among them, according to the employee who pointed her out sitting in her car in the parking lot. She allegedly took bottles of alcohol without paying.

Getting drunk during pregnancy is how the "Greatest Generation" created the boomers.

FlyingSquid

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And that should result in a death sentence?

Rivalarrival

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I made no such conclusion.

I mean, the facts are pretty straightforward: she used a deadly weapon (a motor vehicle) to attack pedestrians (the officers).

Had she simply submitted to the initial arrest, she would have faced a fine and some community service. Shoplifters rarely face anything more serious than that. In an attempt to avoid those minimal consequences, she chose to escalate from a simple property crime to assault with a deadly weapon. The best she could hope for would have been a lengthy prison sentence.

No, the case is straightforward and boring. The only interesting factor I found in it was fetal alcohol syndrome.

Ensign_Crab

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I mean, the facts are pretty straightforward: she used a deadly weapon (a motor vehicle) to attack pedestrians (the officers).

According to the police.

Rivalarrival

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According to the video.

Ensign_Crab

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The one that was released after your comment. You believe anything anyone who shoots a black person says.

Rivalarrival

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Trust, but verify. I believed them when they said they had a video, and I believed them when they provided a written description of the video. They would look extraordinarily bad to be caught lying about something so easy to verify, so I saw little reason not to trust.

It fit the pattern: individual gets caught committing a minor criminal act, but rather than facing the music and accepting the slap on the wrist punishment, they instead choose to escalate to the point of endangering people, and then Pikachu-face when they get shot.

What does her race have to do with this case?

Did "being black" stop her from hearing or understanding the officer calmly ordering her to get out of the car? Did "being black" prevent her from seeing the other officer in front of her vehicle? Did "being black" force her to put the car in gear and depress the accelerator?

I'll save my outrage for cases like Breonna Taylor, Philando Castile, George Floyd, and other actual victims of police abuse. I have no sympathy for someone who would endanger lives to avoid facing minimal and deserved consequences for their own criminal actions.

Government_Worker666

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Witness states she put down the bottles before she left the store. The description of the video states she accelerated towards an officer. The video shows an officer step in front of the slow rolling vehicle. He even takes a step forward right before he jumps on the hood. He was also able to safely get away from the slow moving vehicle after he fired a shot, something that he could have done before choosing to end a life

Ensign_Crab

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What does her race have to do with this case?

It's the only reason you believed the police before they released the video.

I’ll save my outrage for cases like Breonna Taylor, Philando Castile, George Floyd.

As though you don't have excuses for why each of them had it coming too.

reverendsteveii

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magnolia_mayhem

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This place is weirdly hyper-leftist. Don't expect this comment to go well

Aabbcc

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Leftism is when you downvote dumbass comments

Rivalarrival

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This isn't a left/right issue. The divide here is between people who have learned the laws governing the use of force, and people who haven't. The problem is that the cops are in the first camp, and the people being killed (and the people outraged at them being killed) are all in the second.

The only viable solution to this problem is to broadly teach these laws to people before they decide whether to act a fool.