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Live updates: Harris has support from enough Democratic delegates to become presidential nominee, AP survey finds

Live updates: Kamala Harris kicks off campaign for president with a rally in Wisconsin

https://apnews.com/live/biden-trump-election-campaign-updates

In her first rally as a presidential candidate, Vice President Kamala Harris Harris framed the race with Donald Trump as a choice between "freedom" and "chaos."

Live updates: Kamala Harris kicks off campaign for president with a rally in Wisconsin

Vice President Kamala Harris has secured the support of enough Democratic delegates to become her party’s nominee against Republican Donald Trump, according to an Associated Press survey.

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venusaur

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We all need to pray for ranked choice voting

MagicShel

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Let's also do something that will actually help achieve it.

venusaur

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Absolutely. What are you doing?

Some guidance for others: Talk to your city council about updating their voting system and amending your city charter to implement RCV. Spread awareness and educate your community. Find your local RCV advocate group and support them. Partner with other local coalitions looking to improve democracy. Remember than RCV is a non-partisan reform. Everybody benefits.

MagicShel

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I'm doing just as much as anyone just praying for it, but I'm not here to have that fight. This is a much more helpful post and I appreciate it.

Stovetop

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The only problem is that RCV has basically bipartisan opposition in stronghold states. You see it being blocked in red southern states, but it also failed to pass in Massachusetts, which is as blue as they come.

RCV makes it likelier that the currently prevailing party ends up as the #2 vote on more people's ballots (i.e. eliminating the need for "vote blue no matter who") and that threatens their overall presence in government, so they do whatever they can to stall efforts to implement RCV.

venusaur

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Yeah nobody in power wants it. Really shines a light on who really wants democracy. Spoiler: it’s not any major red or blue politicians.

kescusay

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That was remarkably fast.

ThePowerOfGeek

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There are two camps of Democrats:

The ones who want a very open fresh nomination process to emphasize the differences between their party as good faith across in picking their candidate when compared to the GOP.
The ones who want the process done ASAP so the focus can turn to fund raising and campaigning, because they feel Harris is the natural and best candidate.

The Obamas fall into the first camp. I don't think they are anti-Harris. They just want to ensure as much transparency as possible.

I don't think either camp is wrong. They both have their merits. But the group who want the nomination process done and dusted as soon as possible are clearly in the majority.

girlfreddy

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I think you're right, and it sucks. Especially when Harris has managed to boost donations by $81 mil in less than 48 hours.

People who vote Democrat want openness and accountability, and if the DNC shortchanges them they will have squandered the chance to win BIG.

Hopefully the ethical group come out on top.

MataVatnik

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Not really, I'm fucking stoked for Harris. All the competitors that stood a chance withdrew. Enough of this virtue signaling high road bullshit, let's win this election.

MagicShel

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I really don't think I'd call a bunch of wheeling and dealing at the DNC any more ethical. That's a group that fought hard to keep Bernie from being the candidate. They definitely put their boot on the scale when they want. Which leads to...

Then there's the consideration that the VP is generally seen as the President's heir-apparent, and the mere suggestion that the DNC worked behind the scenes to deny her shot might play strongly into Trump's attempts to turn black voters.

I strongly supported Biden to avoid that whole controversy and because faffing around arguing with each other about which candidates are just as bad as Biden while Trump campaigns would be shooting ourselves in the foot. I couldn't be happier to see the instant near-unity backing Harris. It proved my biggest fear wrong. Now there is just my fear about racism and misogyny within Dem voters, but that was the trade off for yeeting the old white guy. Hopefully it will prove to be just as unfounded as my first concern.