(CW: Misogyny) Shit like this is why Kamala might win. Republicans are deeply abnormal and unappealing people.
The politician from Ohio is so concerned about making sure people have children. Normal people might remember Ohio as the state that rejoiced over the miracle of a pregnant 11-year-old.
Kamala could gain points with normal people (including surrounding swing states) just by mercilessly dunking on Ohio until November.
Making your entire campaign about shitting on your opponent for being from Ohio will always result in a 49-state victory, with the opponent pulling a Mondale Special
Ohio doesn't make bright people. I got family there. I'm probably among the smartest in my family and that isn't saying much. I have a cousin in Ohio that is in a union and argued with me one time that unions aren't socialist because he pays dues. That was his reasoning. Not a single wrinkle is that man's brain.
tbf, trade unions were among the fiercest enemies of early European socialist parties since they have a well defined place in the Capitalist system. Unions are not needed in a liberated society
Here's another bad thing about Ohio:
[CW: Meat] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_Chili
That shit isn't even chili. And it isn't spaghetti sauce either. It's the food equivalent of a "taint".
I wandered around drunk at 2 AM in Cincinnati and couldn't find any; that's the real crime
The only swing voters that would go for trump are the ones who want to be out loud bigots. Trump isn't selling anything but fear and blame of anyone not straight and white.
JD vance is pathetic, zero dignity. A little worm person. A weed that goes wherever theres something to leech off of.
You have genuinely failed at life if you choose the path he did
He's the type of person where everyone just immediately accepted the phony rumor about fucking a couch in his book. He looks and sounds like the kind of person who would do that and write about it
Of course he is, he was a NeVeR TrUmP conservative when that was beneficial to him in 2016, now he's predictably turned his grift around.
Indeed, everyone is born with a force field around them that completely insulates them from any political or economic adversity but that force field is destroyed by the act of having children
Their worldview is based on the idea that someday, somehow, we’ll figure things out. How? We don’t know yet so the only thing to do now is to continue to propagate and empower future generations so that maybe they can eventually figure it out. Their sole reason for existence is to be a link, either through direct genealogy or action, in the chain of humanity that eventually coalesces to create the ubermensch that somehow wills forth an ultimate “purpose” from the ether to retroactively validate all the actions that led to its existence.
Naturally, reproduction is a vital part of this process of forcibly propelling humanity forward through time and social/biological evolution. Anyone that does not participate in the traditional bourgeoisie family unit is actively at odds with their conception of the “human project” and thus should not have any participation in steering it. There’s a simple reason that drives homophobia/transphobia from these types, their very existence questions the validity of the “purpose” of reproduction and iteration. At best, they’re seen as an aberration to be ignored and disenfranchised; at worst, an affront to the very purpose of being that must be culled in order for the cycle to continue unimpeded. Childless cis women are chided for not participating in the project but are met with fare less ire due to their potential to do so as well as a begrudging societal acknowledgement of biological realities that preclude some women from reproducing
These are the very same people that obsessed over Taylor Swift not having kids and wanted her eggs to produce Aryan supermen and yet Kamala is still going to lose against them. The dems run amazing candidates that everyone universally loves!
yet Kamala is still going to lose against them.
Honestly, I really don't know about that. I feel like I'm in the minority on this website on this, but I think she has a strong chance.
She definitely has a real chance. Biden’s biggest weaknesses were his age and his record. Harris isn't old (especially compared to Trump), can more easily back off Biden’s least-popular positions, and it's harder to blame her for not accomplishing as much as the guy ostensibly running the show.
Trump is also not some electoral juggernaut; he's basically a walking gaffe/outrage machine with an endless supply of skeletons in his closet.
I agree. She's a complete piece of shit, but she's not a sundowning Silent Generation segregationist. If she plays her cards right and the Republicans keep saying weird shit like this fence sitters might be driven to vote for her.
People dunked on her for her debate plan to say "Why are you being so weird?" but it's honestly probably pretty good strategy if (big if) she can convince people she's normal.
I think it's at least 50/50, but I also think the lathe has been emitting unholy smoke and fire and i have no fucking idea what is even possible anymore.
Biden dropping out was the Dark Horse everyone was hoping for, and now for the first time since 2015 I can't even guess who's going to be president next year. How exciting!
I remember in 2020 this site was convinced that Trump would beat Biden. This website assumes the worst at times.
It was an incredibly close election and literally everyone was wrong about which way which demographics would vote
it was pretty obvious biden was most likely going to win, and it was far from a landslide but still pretty decisive, far from incredibly close. polling aggregate from 538 before the election:
for reference, they gave hillary clinton a 70/30 chance, so her loss was fairy probable
I think that's completely fair. I'm on the left (lower case l) and I don't know anyone who voted for Biden, but plenty who voted against Trump. Biden was a wholly uninspiring candidate, and if you'd asked me in the early days of the 2020 primary who was going to win, Biden was near the bottom with Yang imo. Especially after his disastrous debate performance, dude looked and acted like they'd just done CPR on him minutes beforehand.
I didn't think Bernie was going to win that election, but there was that moment when the establishment Dems were on the bottom of the polls, and Bernie was ahead. It was the last time I felt any kind of hope for a process to go our way.
Don't you just love it that the "hope" dude (Obama) was the one to take away our hopes?*
*Obama is widely considered to have orchestrated everyone except Biden and Warren dropping out on the same day, flipping the table for Biden.
Yup. He was my first election. I didn't vote for him for a second term. He blew it the second nobody got in trouble for the bank collapse and letting the bush admin off the hook.
Bernie would have beaten the absolute dogshit out of Trump, imo. That little stunt the Democrats pulled in all dropping out and giving their delegates to Biden and declaring him the de facto winner after [checks notes] he won one of four primaries, on top of all of the shit in 2016, has made me completely cynical towards them. I've got the fastest eye roll in the West for anybody who insists that the democratic primary reflects the will of the voters.
Lots of people here weren’t. I was pretty sure Biden would win and in my electoral map guess I think I only got one state wrong. There were plenty of people calling it both ways, there wasn’t a sitewide consensus that Trump would win.
remember in early 2020 when most of the subreddit thought covid was a little flu being sensationalized by the media?
I think what he means is more alpng the lines of whether Trump will excite his base more than he will exicte the dem base to turn out against him. Not so much about "losing" votes
Agreed. People are starving for a normal candidate, and Kamala strikes me as only being abnormal in how much of an absolute normie she is. She has almost no baggage at all, she has experience as a prosecutor (which should speak to her ability to communicate) and landed some pretty good body shots on Biden in the 2020 primary debates, and she has almost none of the problems that Trump and Biden shared (brain-addled golf-obsessed septuagenarians), and she can lay claim to Biden's W's and have plausible deniability for his L's. Kamala has previously come across as a little too scripted, and that's born out in other reports about her being something of an overbearing perfectionist, but I think that's nothing that the DNC war machine can't polish up. I think Kamala's got a real shot here.
Honestly, I’m kind of appreciating the normie perspective you’re bringing here with this comment. While I disagree with the “no baggage” statement, I don’t think her baggage will harm her with the broader fascist American public. The only people who will really care about all of the horrible things she did as DA/AG are those of us already on the left.
That's exactly what I meant when I said almost no baggage. The average canter/auth voter in the US couldn't give two shits about Kamala being an over-aggressive DA. A lot of them probably appreciate it, even. Being more libertarian minded, it bothers me, but not remotely as much as Project 2025 does.
Well, which is it? She either persuaded lots of juries to lock up all kinds of people (she did) or she sucks at communicating, I find it hard to imagine how both could be true. At any rate, she'll communicate better than Biden, who famously said [unintelligible]
This wasnt a PPB situation at all lol. Clear example of some of us being too trigger happy with that.
Maybe Kamala's style doesnt work with you but I think she does have an ability to communicate and I dont think random lemm.ee person is wrong here.
if you really think her time as prosecutor is good evidence of her persuasion abilities I don't know what to tell you
I just saw some parts of Vance talking. The crowd was dead. A lady behind him was falling asleep. If anything, he's going to blow Trump's election. When someone "charismatic" like Trump says something insane, the crowd can twist whatever real thoughts they had to join in on being with him.
Vance? Watching a wet garbage bag say the dumbest thing ever might honestly be the only concrete hope the Dems have. If I were Kamala and co I'd let him yap as much as possible and then replay his most boring crappy comments over and over.
Pence was the same way. Imo Trump's VP basically doesn't matter for the election, Trump supporters are voting for Trump, full stop. Like, Trump could probably have ran with Epstein in 2016 and still won.
jd vance only wants people to have children because he is a bad Terminator and wants more skulls to step on ominously after SkyNet launches the nukes
I think Harris is a shitlib, but these freaks are attacking her on the worst stuff.
Give her a competent team and if this “no kids” shit sticks.. she can turn that into a strength of “I had to choose between career and family, which is a major problem today- as president I will push for laws and rulings so that we can have it all.”
Reactionaries will always attack liberals for the wrong reasons. If they were pointing to the right reasons they probably wouldn't be reactionaries.
Yeah, I hate to be so binary, but attacking liberals for the right reasons either makes someone a broken clock or a communist.
That's not necessarily true. Often they will attack liberals for the right reasons and then their solutions are utter nonsense.
The war in Ukraine is a disaster!
That's why we need to stop spending money there and spend all our money on killing immigrants!
I'm shocked they haven't gone after her for calling Biden a segregationist on national TV and then becoming his VP anyway, but I guess they themselves are also naked hypocrites who care about nothing but power so it might not reflect well on them.
Ya it's kind of easy to show what Vance said about Trump in return so it's not that much of an own.
True, only the groypers are going to approve of Trump being called an "american Hitler" lmao.
Give her a competent team
based on how she ran her primary, and how Genocide Joe's done the handoff, this is highly unlikely
The easiest response is "this is an admission that Vance doesn't care about anyone besides his own family, certainly not yours."
They had a good thing going during the 2016 period when Trump’s snark and anti-pc attitude won people over during the peak of anti-sjw.
But now they’ve gone back to letting the Fox News brainworms settle in.
Harris is turning out to be one of the funniest developments of this campaign so far.
She's almost the perfect combination of cringe and fashy, nothing they've said about her so far has been particularly compelling.
In an election where all she has to do is take body blows and not be Trump.... Idk I think it might actually work.
She just has to not take them seriously and laugh at them, I fucking hate to see it but she's sort of perfect for this.
If she can call them weird and laugh at the insane shit they say she will come out wayyy the fuck ahead. that's not anything we've seen with the Dems yet.
She fucking sucks of course, but she may in fact be the only establishment dem that could disarm trump at this moment
Vance is way more unhinged that I thought (and tbh I had little idea who he was before this). I can't imagine he would make any undecided voters more comfortable with trump unless they have full blown woke derangement syndrome and thought Trump simply didn't hate women enough.
Extremely funny timeline if she wins. I hope she does bc I want to see chuds lose themselves 
Evil people seem to live forever (well, until they don't 
). I wouldn't be surprised if he made it to 100, even if he starts eating mcdonalds for every meal.
My unpopular opinion is this: she's going to lose ala 2016. She's doing so positively for now up until November shows up and she loses.
yeah, this type of attack will resonate with some freaks for sure but I don't think its net positive, probably
Everything from the top down in this country is built around people with kids. The entire social safety net, 90% of public spaces etc....
The childless are always an afterthought.
She's married and she has stepkids. Vance is basically saying that stepmothers aren't real mothers, which will not go over well at all.
Even a surprising percentage of the conservative women I've met are step moms. Second wives awkwardly defending their husband's ill gotten gains hold up half the MAGA sky
Oh, that's way more shitty than I thought. I was at work when I made that comment.
A majority of millennials probably have a step parent. If anything mattered, his comment would be a devastating blow to his popularity
I don't think so. Suburbs are very child-unfriendly, for example, and this, I think, is one of the most important factors for the rise of socially maladjusted people. The capitalist economy is also much harder for people with children.
That's probably true these days. I grew up in a neighborhood, and it was just like the boomers say. Playing until the street lights came on, all the kids were close enough to my age... We played street hockey and skateboarded. Lots of neighborhood wide games of hide and seek. The neighbors mostly knew each other
Our lives were a little less atomized back then, and the economy wasn't completely soul crushing.
Inner ring or pre 1990s suburbs are pretty child friendly. I see kids about 8+ going to the park or 711 or whatever. The problem is you're not going to get a 3500 sq ft house on half an acre of unused land in these places and that's what people wanted up until fairly recently.
This is a common refrain from many in the online right. They say this about ALL women who are older and without children.
