Look you've just to got read the prologue that was a limited edition IHOP giveaway in 2015 and the story is awesome
This is very accurate to the people I've met that love Eva and even myself when I loved it lmao
Eva is fantastic now that the rebuilds actually have a somewhat uplifting ending that gives perfect closure. I detested Eva for many years but my mind was changed by the rebuilds
Just watch it through, or the way like from that pic. End of Evangelion is an alternate version of episodes 25 and 26, and the rebuild movies are meant to be watched afterwards
Not necessarily an alternate version. The End movies shows >!what's happening outside of Shinji's psyche.!<
It doesn't matter what order you watch it your first time around, you're not going to understand what the fuck is going on unless you watch a five hour video essay anyway.
Evangelion is an experience. As others have said, I wouldn't even bother trying to find the best way to consume it, just watch, and revisit once you get over the initial "wtf was that" feeling.
The OG series is the story Anno wanted to show. Some fans wanted a more concrete ending, so Anno gave them a concrete ending in EoE. Then some fans wanted a happy ending where Shinji gets the girl so Anno said fuck it, sold out, and made a series with a happy ending where Shinji gets a girl. But now some fans want a happy ending where Shinji gets the right girl so Anno gave up on them as lost causes and went and directed Shin Godzilla.
I disagree. There's a YouTube video essay series that breaks down the timelines and I really like their interpretation. Each Eva is the story Anno wanted to tell at each point in his life, as he grew and became a healthier person. Anno wanted the darkness when he was younger. Anno wanted the hope as he got older. I've watched all the Evas and I think I actually like the rebuilds more.
Each Eva is the story Anno wanted to tell at each point in his life, as he grew and became a healthier person.
Sounds like something someone who sold out would say! (/s)
Anno wanted the darkness when he was younger
I still like the OG ending. I think the 'darkness' of EoE was partially a reaction to the death threats he got, and the Rebuilds feel unnecessarily convoluted (but the animation was great). Anyway, to each their own.
Evangelion is sorta important culturally and historically in anime, but honestly I wouldn't call it good, even though it was one of the early ones I grew up on (along with Ranma 1/2 and Rurouni Kenshin).
I have the opposite experience, I only watched it a couple years ago and thought the hype would totally kill it for me, but I actually ended up really enjoying it and EoE in particular stuck with me. I loved the idea that love is born of the risk we take of truly being known by other people.
I will say that the quality of the Netflix dub probably helped a lot. I know they changed some translations which kinda sucks, but overall the voice acting is so much better. No hate to Spike Spencer, he's obviously a very prolific voice actor, but I think his performance of Shinji is at least part of why people thought he was so whiny. We were originally going to watch through the rebuild movies dubbed, too, but it was so bad we decided to switch to sub.
I wouldn't bother with anything weird, just watch the series through and then the movies in release order. It might not be "optimal" but I don't think it needs to be. You can skip Death, though, since it's just a recap (there was originally a year between the end of the series and EoE)
TV series: You have to skip the first season, it's a slow start and kinda shit. Go back to it later, except for S01E07 and 08, those are necessary to understand the story arc.
In S02, watch E03,04,05,08,11 and 02 in that order. Still drags on but there are some memorable moments. S03 is great. Except for the ending, skip that. And it all goes downhill starting in S04.
But if you stick with it, S07 is bearable again.
Best series of all time!
I personally recommend watching all of GoT in order, not because it's good, but because you won't appreciate the flawless genius of S8E3 without the other 7 seasons of context. It's a slow drag through those 7 seasons, but once it picks up in the last 5 episodes, it'll all be worth it, I swear. There's so much character development packed into those episodes that they'll seem like completely different people!
You did well. The first season and every following season are the exact same. Chaos, find safety, traitor/calamity, run, chaos... Repeat
Honestly, if I'm told that I need to watch something in a weird order in order to enjoy it, I just drop it from my watchlist. There's plenty of good media to watch, I'm not gonna do that stupid shit.
You're not gonna like Fate then. It is a good series just complicated time-line and a complete mess.
I mean, you can just watch said series in release order as well if optimal order is too much work
(but I do get the sentiment. I'm just thinking of Steins Gate. Watching it and then Steins Gate 0 is a perfectly valid watch order, but since Steins Gate 0 expands on a certain event that just happens in 1 episode in the original into an entire season [and adds a whole bunch of narrative weight by doing so] theres an optimal watch order that has you jump to Steins Gate 0 slightly before ending Steins Gate original and then finishing Steins Gate original after you've finished Steins Gate 0)
Yeah. Both can be watched separately, but if you want to watch both, it's nice to do it in chronological order where episodes of the two series are mixed together, as you get some references to the events in the other series.
My friend insists Battlestar Galactica has a crazy order. His partner wants to watch it and he got irrationally angry (at the show, not at her).
I guess she watches it without him now. He refuses to even discuss it. I like to poke at him about it occasionally.
What do they think the order of Battlestar is? I just watched through it again and it's fine as is I don't know how changing the order could help
I have no clue. I've never watched it but if I did I'd probably just go in whatever order it was put out.
You'd have to know him, though. He gets animated (not angry, just extra) about a lot of little things but big things just roll off his back. I haven't seen him this angry about anything since we were teenagers a hundred years ago. It's hilarious because of who he is.
I think one of our old coworkers convinced him of that back when it was on and he was considering getting into it and he's never let it go.
Not this extreme, but Always Sunny I couldn't get past the second episode. Gave up on it until someone told me that I can just completely ignore the first season and start on season two. Actually got into the show like that, never gone back to try and watch the parts I missed
I was thinking of what I was told about TNG and Babylon5 but the episode numbers I wrote are just random.
The only serious I've seen this sorta shit for is BSG and then it was most recommended to just disregard that bs and watch it in release order
Yeah, I can get into a series if people say to skip the first couple episodes/seasons because it takes a little to figure itself out (like how you can skip the first season of Parks and Rec and miss nothing of importance), but weird watch order is not something I'll bother with.
I had to get a watch guide for Supernatural. It had some great episodes and a lot of duds. I still never finished it, stopping on season 7.
With American comics, it's not even the shattered continuity, it's that availability is a mess because some of the franchises are so ancient and collectible.
If I want to read through One Piece from the 1997 start, my library probably has/can inter-library loan all 105 volumes, or I can go to mainstream retailers and get any I'm missing without a huge fracas.
If I want to read Batman from the 1940 start, I'd better hope some of the rarer issues come up at auction in the near future AND that I can mortgage my house to afford them.
I'm amazed they never put out a DVD-ROM collection that's "Everything Marvel/DC did prior to, say, 1990, as PDF scans" just so mere mortals have a chance to enjoy the experience of completionism.
Yep. I first saw what he is asking for over 20 years ago. They sold them at a gas station by my house.
I was surprised about that figure of 105 volumes for one piece, so I googled it and it was 109 (probably just what came out since you last heard about it). I was expecting that number to be like a thousand or something.
Literally just watch Monogatari in release order. It's out of chronological order on purpose
Fate is pretty easy nowadays. Just start with literally any series made after 2011. They're all self contained stories that explain the premise within the first few episodes.
We're a long way from the old days where you had to read the VN if you wanted to have any idea about what was going on in the UBW movie.
Just start with Zero. It's a prequel that lays out the narrative devices of the series while being a pretty neat story in itself.
But after watching Zero anything else from Fate is just weird.
Like adults murdering each other with magic and famous people makes some sort of sense. Kids doing that is just... stupid. I tried the Stay/Night, UBW many times, and it just doesn't hit anywhere near as well as the Zero did.
I'm just going to pleasure myself with this fish.
To be fair, the Holy Grail War in Zero is the last one that was kind of played by the rules, and it never properly concludes.
The events of the main routes all depict the fallout of the Holy Grail War going to complete shit, as it starts back up off-schedule.
I’ve never watched it: I just read the hentai doujins. It gave me a better idea of the story.
Monogatari was much harder for me to keep track of IMO, Fate content you can start off with most of what's available (vanilla Fate, Zero, Extra, Samurai Remnant, Prisma, Grand Order). I'd only not recommend Hollow Ataraxia or Apocrypha first.
Where typemoon is concerned, Kara no Kyoukai is more headache inducing
Fate is only difficult for people who are adamant about watching adaptations. And even though I do think the UBW anime at least reaches the threshold of "good," it's still inferior.
Oh, but the power of American superhero comics is that you can just start reading them wherever. Sure, there is deeper lore, but you're not required to know all that. There's this bat-dude, see? He punches crooks and does awesome shit in the night. There's also a bunch of wacky villains. See? Just go read it, you'll pick up the rest of the details as you go along!
And I also love a lot of European comics because most often they have a pretty good balance between complex writing and manageable size. And publishers here tend to be more lenient toward artists making one-shot kind of comics, without any expectations that it'll become the next endless blockbuster cash-cow property.
Still, I do like how most of the manga series are like "OK, here's the beginning, here's 20 or whatever volumes, here's the end."
Make sure you watch the corrected DVD order because Fox thought more action would be better and put the 2nd episode first, the first episode 11th and totally fucked any hope for a second season...
And that's why Comics < Manga
and I say that as someone who reads more Comics than she does Mangas (Not really fond of anime aside from specific examples)
do comics have as much filler as manga? because most manga and anime I've seen (which isn't too much admittedly) has been full of irrelevant shit just to pad things out.
Most manga and anime don't have filler. The long-running ones do, because, well, they want to milk them for all they're worth.
Not really, since there's such a limited page amount, the only comics with "filler" either are because the editor kept mandating arcs that sell too well be stretched out as much as possible (Marvel infamously did this with Spider-Man's clone saga to the irritation of EVERYONE!), or because it's something like Early Archie Sonic where the stories are intended to be episodically self-contained to begin with.
I love batman and tried to get into comics many times. But every time I'd ask where to start it wouid be paragraphs of text exposing were I "could start" multiple reboots, side world's, multi verse who else knows what. So I just give up.
Yeah. I tried getting into comics once and got a multi-gigabyte archive of deadpool stuff.
...couldn't make heads or tails of it.
Actually couldn't get into IDW sonic/transformers for the same reason. WHERE DO I START!?
I'm surprised you had this problem with IDW Sonic as it's an incredibly easy book to follow. If you were confused by the beginning then know that the whole book takes place after Sonic Forces, but before Frontiers in the game timeline. Unlike Archie Sonic which is its own continuity.
Well, it was a spur-of-the-moment sort of thing when I went and looked at their site and it just had a bunch of names with no numbers there under the book art.
Went and checked now and site looks entirely different, and I can clearly see the issue numbers. I don't know, maybe I hallucinated it.
Annoyingly enough a lot of books are trying to make the issue numbers harder to spot thinking that if readers aren't intimidated by the issue number they'll pick it up.....
Maybe if they just stop doing reboots every three seconds instead?
And since each issue has "Variant Covers" now you can be tricked into buying the same book twice if you don't notice those numbers
He originally appeared as a minor villain in Captainman #743, so you'd have to read that first. And the previous issues, for context.
Speaking of Dragon Ball, it's in a very weird "how to progress further" dillema after Toriyama's death. Various people have the rights for different purposes; and want to do different things with the franchise.
I just hope it doesn't end up like LOTR franchise where they cash out for shit ass products that doesnt respect its source material.
I love Dragon Ball, but as a franchise, it's shit.
The original DB was a light hearted adventure series.
Then DBZ was a lot darker and introduced most of the series lore.
Then GT turned Goku into a kid, and tried to do both.
Super tried to recreate the lightheartedness of the original DB, but with the Z fights - some of it was good, most wasn't.
The upcoming series, Daima, everyone magically turns chibi. Evidently, Toriama is fixated on returning to the original DB.
I don't think Daima will be good. Toriama needs to let kid goku go.
Once comics start going public domain, I hope the first thing people do is release them as chapters
The manga? Start with chapter one. The light novel? Start with chapter one. Only the anime made it needlessly confusing.
What do you mean, needlessly confusing? The release order was genius. Opening with the movie screening showed exactly the kind of show it was. It also allowed the climax to be in the last episode of the season, while still having it happen in the middle chronologically (as Haruhi wanted).
But the second season was where KyoAni outdid themselves. It was an improvement on the first season. While the first season was great, the second was even better. Sometimes you see a series dip in quality in S2, but here it was the opposite - the quality improved. For the second season showed an uptick in the narrative. The first season had already pushed the limits of storytelling, but the second went further. While the first season was greatly enjoyable, the second was even more so. Perhaps the most ardent fans may try to quantify the quality, and say that it was, I don't know, eight times better than the first.
I - I mean, you really only have to watch, like, season 4 through 17, pretty much. The rest you can just skip.
I wonder if there's a serialized Mr. Frog comic?
Jujutsu kaisen has entered the chat.
(But only if you are some random website who thinks the original release timeline isn't "the correct way")
Star Trek '09 and Into Darkness are both better movies if you read their supplementary comics. This is, I think, already on bad ground. Each work should be able to stand on its own to some degree. Pushing supplementary stuff like this to bring the story together is a cynical cash grab.
Season 1 of Picard then directly contradicts the comic to '09. Specifically, Data was fully revived inside B4 in the comic, while Picard showed that B4 could never handle the complexity of Data's programming (which, admittedly, is the more likely outcome). Not only that, but Alex Kurtzman was one of the writers of the comic was also on the writing team of Picard. Erasing that plot point was a deliberate choice.
Where does that leave us with those comics?
