Also HexBear: "Burgerbrain Westoid Kkkrackkkers DESERVE gulag for FALLING for tasty treat brain melt propaganda!"
I think it's just frustration caused by personal failures to undo the propaganda. When you explain and justify how something is false and then deeply explain how something else is correct and they actively choose the false thing then people get frustrated and give up. Once they've given up on that then the only solutions left are burying them all.
Once they’ve given up on that then the only solutions left are burying them all.
About where I'm at. I couldn't give the first fuck about a white Amerikan anymore; I'm organizing for my folk and my folk alone until we've allied with other subjects-of-empire with similar grievance. And if that don't work, I'm getting the fuck out on my ones.
I hate pretty much everyone. People are not inherently good no matter where they come from.
I hate the conservative black Democrats who all hate gay people and vote in droves for Joe Biden types in Dem primaries.
I hate the Hispanic "macho" swine and their "I immigrated the right way" BS.
I hate the Chinese ex-pats that go with Falun Gong nonsense because they were too greedy to stay in the greatest country on earth.
It sucks. I hate this place. I am a hermit by choice and if it wasn't for specific hobbies and orgs I just wouldn't be around people. Nature is so much better for my mental health.
100% it's frustration with people for not being able/willing to follow the path we did. i think it's a natural response to a stubborn rejection of the seemingly obvious
to some extent i think it's probably impossible to live in a world that so thoroughly rejects what you see as truth and not be somewhat embittered with others as a result
FALLING for tasty treat brain melt propaganda!"
I disagree with this post completely. Please read this article if you haven't. Westerners are not gullible little know-nothings that are helplessly caught up in the propaganda. They actively seek it out in order to justify their exploitative way of life.
It is? It reads like you're making fun of people who call out westerners for enthusiastically chugging the kool aid
I'm more making fun of people who mock them for chugging the kool aid but the change their tone once there's a more serious discussion of westoids kool aid chugging habit.
You can do both, i can make fun of the psychos who fell into bullshit and still acknowledge that is a shame that they fell into something that they were being programmed to do
If propaganda doesnt do anything and people are just the way they are. Why bother doing propaganda? Why fly american warjets over thr superbowl even though it costs an insane amount of money
Obviously propaganda does something, it would be ridiculous to argue otherwise. But propaganda is ridiculously effective on Americans, more than it really should be, so much so it feels like the propagandists have gotten kinda lazy with it because they know they don't have to put enough effort it.
I don't think propaganda would work this well if the population wasn't actively buying into it rather than just being passively exposed to it.
The more money you spend on propaganda the more effective it is.
Americans have unique material circumstances being benefactors of the imperial core and being completed isolated amongst other things.
if you were born here you'd probably do the same shit a lot of these hogs are doing
if you were born here you'd probably do the same shit a lot of these hogs are doing
I was born here
believing things that are true is better than believing things that are not true
Do you know to origin of that pic?
I see it all the time and don't know what its about and don't know what words to use to search for it
it's a Norman Rockwell painting with a pretty funny backstory
Freedom of Speech depicts a scene of a 1942 Arlington town meeting in which Jim Edgerton, the lone dissenter to the town selectmen's announced plans to build a new school, as the old one had burned down,[9] was accorded the floor as a matter of protocol.[10] Edgerton supported the rebuilding process but was concerned about the tax burden of the proposal, as his family farm had been ravaged by disease.[11]
A lot of people say "build different" when the person in question is actually describing themselves actively making choices.
I remember cackling when I first heard that joke. I'm not sure if that was the reaction the author wanted, though.
I remember a joke that was like "leftists already have the equivalent to macho self help, it's called marxism, it's the philosophy of an old white guy and makes you think you understand everything and get overconfident about complex topics"
Uh, maybe in the original Hebrew. But I see several words here that are in all the English translations. "You" for example.
First one is me i feel like ive said that exactly
The second one has truth in it but the line of reasoning has the western poison pill in it
We are all products of our material circumstances. If you don't believe that then just tell everyone to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and stop worrying about collectivism.
Okay, cool, that's a respectable position. But if that's you're line than don't say shit like:
"Burgerbrain Westoid Kkkrackkkers DESERVE gulag for FALLING for tasty treat brain melt propaganda!"
Even if you're just blowing off steam.
Idk if you have personally but I'm sure other here have both expressed sentiment like yours and also gone on "Burgerbrain" rants.
Appreciate the respec', I absolutely empathise with the instinct to feel that way, but I honestly never say shit like that and I don't think comrades should.
I'm not totally sure, I'll make a couple points I personally believe.
1: nobody is immune to propaganda == everyone is equally scrupulous when confronted with propaganda.
2: a lot of people "fall" for propaganda less because it oh-so convincing and clever but because they have incentives to believe it.
3: in the digital age you do have less excuses for being really poorly informed.
4: a lot of people in the west are just straight up unreachable unless/until shit in their lives substantially changes.
5: we (actually) leftists are indeed smarter than most people, the issue is less believing that and more letting it get to our heads and making us insufferably smug.
Edit: final thought
6: I don't think being a leftist means you have to have this poetic "faith in the beauty of humanity" like some people here say you do. Plenty of past leftist (Lenin, Marx) where exactly overflowing with love for their fellow man and weren't afraid to talk shit when they felt people, either individuals or at large, were being stupid, and they were much more successful than any of us. I support communism because I think it's the right path for human civilization based on our history, not because I think ever living soul is a beacon of angelic light. You can feel cynical about your fellow man and society at large and still think the correct path for both is communism. If anything doing so will make you more adept at understanding your fellow man/society at large.
You cant believe that leftists are smarter than everyone and also believe that everyone who is propagandized is smart enough to not be. Why do you think leftists are smarter than everyone?
Yeah i dunno you havent really met how low the floor is on how stupid Americans can be
This is you up thread?
Why do you think leftists are smarter than everyone?
Why don't you think that? If leftists are as dumb as any regular asshole why are you one?
yeah, there's contradiction i'm not afraid of it, you are. the question is: why are they so stupid? how did they get there? and that's a real conversation rather than cartoon caricatures that you're suggesting
progression of material circumstances that led me to my conclusions, i started as a poor rush limbaugh chud btw, my sister ended up as lib and she's not stupid.
Depends on what position you end up on Once you are at the point were you justify the death of people from bad country then i really have a hard time caring about their sob stories.
I definitely should have said "it's not proper Ganda". We workshopped it together
"Gulag"
"Elite Academy"