This is based as far as I can tell.
It's a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.
It's a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.
It's definitely more palatable when the strangers you're killing are nazis
I can agree that there's been an extremely minuscule amount of justifiable war in an endless number of wars.
But the story in the greentext takes place in 1932, before the Nazis even got into power in Germany.
Japan was invading China.
But this is clearly fake and connected to the month of June.
Anon probably read a story about this happening and assumed the heir of the protagonist. Then used online for attention and group feedback on his projection that hiding in a cave is somehow based.
They are probably in that cave right now.
It's a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.
Killing for yourself: Government will track you down, kick your door in and throw you in prison and maybe send you into the death row.
Killing for your government: Government will provide training, shelter, equipment, pay you and award you medals.
Yeah
Started by fucking pussies
Defense isn't war.
War masquerading as defense is for fucking pussies
War is two sides fighting. By and large one side is always on defense. By your strange definition of war, it would only be when two sides simultaneously agree to attack each other because they each decided to conquer the other at the exact same moment.
You turn the corner to see a skinhead beating your dad with a baseball bat. You have a gun. Walk us through your next moves.
That's often the case when it's a battle over shit like oil but for instance when Germany attacked Poland, it's the Poles' primary responsibility to fight for what is theirs. "Let the people who declared war be on the front line" okay well in this example that's Germany and you're going to lose everything your family ever worked for.
*if you and your family own stuff. Which is not the case for most working class people. The same working class getting shoved to the front lines.
Get out with this class essentialism.
Going from prole renting a shitty apartment who barely owns a car and a washing machine, to forcibly deported or forced to renounce your culture and teach your children the invader's language and culture is not "potato, potato".
Sometimes there are other things to fight for than capital, even if this might sound like a foreign concept to Westerners whose country hasn't been directly involved in a meaningful non-imperialist conflict since 1945.
I'm going to go with based. I would not have wanted to be a conscript with the rank of private in any army at this time period. You'll be badly treated disposable cannon fodder and you'll be stuck in that situation until the war ends, until you get taken prisoner, until you desert, or until you died.
Can be pussy and based. And based on the world war death tolls, there's a very high chance OP would never have been born otherwise
Indeed, is there more you want to comment? Or is there more you would like to know about the 1930s in Europe? Now I understand that I am taking a liberty with the assumption that OP is referring to European heritage, but I could direct you to a book or two to expand your knowledge of history
okay, sure. which country was fighting a World War in 1932 *edit - come on, why did everybody get so quiet
The comment mentioned world war
Can be pussy and based. And based on the world war death tolls, there's a very high chance OP would never have been born otherwise
I think you should consider the build up of armies/navys on the 30s. Also some pretty quick runs into Fascism. Red army was taking tons of people for the meat grinder
compulsory military service when you're not in a time of war rarely exceeds 2 years. I haven't looked into it, were people who were drafted in Russia in 1932 still serving in 1939?
***Soviet Union and yeah. Stalin had his 5 year plan(s). So there was a huge labor demand. This is opening a whole other massive topic that is to long to type on mobile. You can't think in a modern conscription sense. The Army was likely the only job around for most, 3 squares and place to live. The great depression wasn't just in the US so you can see how it would be easy to get sucked in. Add in Nationalism and Fascism, bitterness from devastation of WWI. Some saw this as a national duty to rearm and rebuild the army. So they would be looking for young men from every territory for labor/soldiers/sailors. I mean you can look basically any where on earth during the 30s and see that everyone was just getting ready for round 2
There were massive buildup of standing armies. Particularly France with their mobilization to construct and man the Maginot Line. Germany and England began reconstructions of huge and modernized navys. Italy was full throttle Fascism around this time. And yes, Japan was moving some serious weight into China
Yeah. Again you have huge build ups in the Royal Italian Army, The Red Army, The French Army, the British Navy, The German Navy... Those are just off the top of my head. There is so, so much info on the interwar period. Historians are constantly looking at that time frame because it is immediately after the second industrial revolution, during a global depression, the first major attempt at world government... Incredible leaps in medical, aviation, industry,.. this terrifying rise of Fascism/nationalism with some really horrific pseudoscience beliefs attached. Pick a geographic area and just search "x area 1930s"
My grandfather did the exact same thing. But he was in conquered France and did it to avoid being drafted by the Nazis.
Edit: There were also a stories of other people in the village finding other ways to avoid the Nazi draft. One of them pretended to be deaf and managed to avoid falling for a few tricks the Germans played on him in an attempt to expose him, such as dropping a coin behind his back. Another one reported to the draft medical examination after purposefully biking over an insanely long distance. When he arrived he was completely exhausted and the doctor deemed him too anemic for military service. All of those in the village who couldn't dodge the draft were sent as cannon fodder on the eastern front and never returned, except for one "lucky" individual who lost a leg.
TIL there were a lot of conflicts occurring in 1932: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Conflicts_in_1932
The Emu War (or Great Emu War)[2] was a nuisance wildlife management military operation undertaken in Australia over the later part of 1932
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
Grandpa was right...
There has been tons of conflicts occurring every year since the beginning of human civilization
Based purely on names, about 90% of those are HARD pass from me.
The other 10% are a soft pass.
My favorite is the Battle of El Sauce, at which the International Consortium of Spanish-speaking Countries defeated the Yum! Brands Taco Bell Corporate Mercenaries to save the word "salsa" from extinction
The one difference that matters if he dodged invading a country or defending his own.
But sometimes you have to invade to defend.
How would you defeat Hitler without invading Germany or all the countries he occupied?
Idk about drafts but some conflicts in that period:
French-IndoChina vs Siam
Saya San Rebellion
Sino-Tibetan War
Kumul Rebellion
Idrisid Emirate Rebellion
Najran conflict
Uukwambi uprising
Annexation of Jimma
Chechen uprising of 1932
Two-Liu War
Kirghiz rebellion
La Matanza
January 28 incident (China v Japan)
Darre Khel revolt
Soviet–Japanese border conflicts
1932 armed uprising in Mongolia
Lesko uprising
Constitutionalist Revolution of Brazil
Ecuadorian Civil War of 1932
Sanjurjada
Colombia–Peru War
Chaco War
And technically the Emus vs Australia. This list has not been vetted by a professional nor is it a complete or exhaustive list.
And it's just one year! Damn, 20th century was very full of events. And 21st century started with Putino-Ukrainian war.
Not all of them started or ended in 1932. And Russia v Ukraine is far from the first 21st century conflict, the entire official US vs Iraq war was 2003 to 2011 for example.
It depends on the war we are talking about I guess?
The only war I would participate without question would be if my country (EU) was invaded.
Absolute based in any other scenario.
Pussy. If you not going to defend your family and your countrymen when it's needed whats the point?
A lot of people have died to make your life better. It didn't come for free.
If they are avoiding it because they are "afraid" then yes. If they are doing it because fuck Putin then no
Doesn't it depend on the war? A lot of good allied soldiers died defeating the Nazis, but a lot of good would-be Nazis also found ways to avoid service.
Every draft dodger in the invading nation is one less soldier you need to defend against.