https://kotaku.com/dr-disrespect-twitch-ban-sexting-minor-response-1851559888
The YouTuber shared his 'side of the story' on inappropriate messages with a minor
Wait for it...
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
I'm no fucking predator or pedophile
Well.... If the person was a minor, and you weren't, and you knew they were young and the messages were 'leaning inappropriate', you're a pedophile.
Also a predator.
I hate to get so semantical but using the word pedophile incorrectly just desensitizes the word. Pedophilia means being attracted to children, primarily meaning before or in the early stages of puberty, usually younger than 13. In fact, many pedophiles would not be attracted to someone aged 15+ because they are typically exclusively or primarily interested in prepubescent bodies.
That doesn't mean this guy isn't a total asshole, but he's not a pedophile, and I think anyone can understand an adult sexting an older teen, while still absolutely horrid, is quite different from sexting a child.
Once again, absolutely not defending this guy, I don't even know who he is... but I think it's important not to desensitize the word.
I know the distinction, but hebephile doesn't carry the same weight. Also, I believe I read the minor was 12. So... Pedo.
I stand by what I said. We don't need to be apologistic towards the scum of the earth. Kids are kids.
Oh fuck. I heard she was 17 and that was fucking bad enough as is. Fucking hell this man is awful.
Yeah I would totally agree with this if the word wasn't already desensitized a very long time ago. The language has changed. (I'm assuming people were ever differentiating, I don't really know/remember the history.) Colloquially it means interested in teens unless it's clarified to be worse than that.
I recommend not trying to make this argument, anywhere. It will not change the way people use words, even if it could there would not be a point (attraction to pre-teens is so egregious that it will always be clarified), and a lot of people will assume that someone who doesn't accept the colloquial usage is themselves interested in teens and in denial about how the public actually views that to the point where they think only interest in prepubescent children is problematic and handwave everything else away as a language issue.
Colloquially, it's a catch-all nowadays. Like I said in another reply, we don't need to differentiate between lowest common denominators. That gets into sounding sympathetic to these fucks, and anyone who sympathizes might as well be one themselves.
I’ve attended a seminar for child protection before that was delivered by a former cop (that worked in the sex crimes division) and they said the exact same thing - in the context of correctly making the distinction between paedophile and sex offender.
Sounds like he was grooming her.
Still not a pedophile nor a predator even for flirting. This is not a 12 year old, but in many jurisdictions a responsible adult.
Have you talked to 17 year olds? They are far from developed in most cases. Anyone even in their late 20s should notice the difference in development and stay clear.
Yeah that's a fair take.
It is reprehensible and disgusting behavior, but it doesn't mean we should universally apply labels across vast swaths of different issues, as it devalues said label and poisons future discussion.
Simple labels simplify discussion of course, but that runs the risk of losing nuance for the specific way someone was a disgusting creep.
Not in the jurisdiction he was in, and that’s all that matters.
Also, while sending sexually explicit texts to minors (using only words) is not illegal, I’m pretty sure we can correlate what his intent was. What, do you think he’s going to come out and fully admit he’s a pedophile? No.
Also, nowhere in any of his statements has he clarified that he didn’t know they were underage. If it were the case that he didn’t know, that’s a pretty fucking big deal and he should know how important it is to explain that. He didn’t though.
Stop defending pedophiles.
Is anyone else bothered (but not surprised) by the fact that Amazon/Twitch agreed to cover it up for him? Seems pretty wild that they should be off the hook for working to protect his image after doing predatory shit like this.
I think they kept it on the low because they don't want people realizing that they're viewing the contents of their whispers, even if you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.
Everyone will forget about twitch's involvement within a week. Just like every time literally any big event happens with any company.
They paid him to go away and to shut up. Twitch letting one of their most popular creators message sexual content to a minor over their platform for years is a PR nightmare. Shows the lack of oversight social media has. Why would they even allow a 12 year old the ability to private message a 30 year old to begin with?!
Edit: and I'm sure twitch found more dirt going through all his communications. This pedo was even planning a meet up with this minor before the minors parent put a stop to it and notified twitch.
Beware that points like this suggest that messaging platforms should be monitoring all communications sent between users. If that's the world you want to live in, ok, fine... But in this case the guy that committed the crime is the one who has been punished. Isn't that the correct result?
I'm just saying that, maybe if you are a creator making content primarily watched by children, the trade off for making money (millions in this case.) off of our platform, is we get to monitor your communications with said audience on our platform? It's like saying a banker who uses their work email to coordinate a crime. My work has email monitoring that looks for financial crimes because surprisingly people are dumb enough to use work email for elicit activities. Yes his messages to individuals are "private" but should they be when in a position of power? He messaged a minor through twitches chat (twitch is essentially his whole job) and twitch has NO safeguards to prevent abuse?!
wop wop wop wop wop
I have this feeling this is probably not the last controversy involving minors we will see shake out of his mustache this week. Justin Roiland had his empire also collapse from grooming. Guy is done.
That's why drake is done too? The guy who beat the shit out of a woman and tattooed it on himself? Drake the groomer with his new album? That done?
That's the thing right. Nobody gets "cancelled"
They get called out and shamed.. and then carry on with business a few weeks later.
Rammstein is filling stadiums again, drd will come back from his vacation and keep on trucking on.
They never face consequences and yet they cry about a woke cancelculture that only exists in their heads to hype up their own bullshit
"Help! Help! I am being held accountable for my actions. The whole woke mob is coming after me and trying to cancel me!"
Did the allegations against rammstein ever amount to anything? I remember seeing the initial story, but then never any follow up about how the court cases went or whether it turned out to be true or not
I didn't know what happened but I found this: https://www.dw.com/en/rammstein-sexual-assault-allegations-a-timeline/a-66716970
Apparently there were some women drugged and abused :/
Legally, no. But there was zero intention to investigate, or clear up anything from the band. No comments, distancing from such actions.
They just threw c&ds at the women in question and buried the topic. Ah and made fun of it of course.
From the article, it sounds like he knew they were a minor and still leaned into the conversations. Why? Why TF would you even be curious about it?
very funny to release what is clearly a meticulously crafted response to career ending allegations of pedophilia while still staying in character as like the bad guy in a movie where a golden retriever learns to play counter strike
Fine. I won't pick a side. I won't crucify anyone without evidence. So...release the transcripts. That seems like the logical step.
The transcripts won't be released unless they're leaked. Giving out any details about the minor he was chatting with risks exposing the victim, who is possibly still a minor. Releasing the transcripts would be an incredibly damaging move, and not to Beahm; people would almost certainly doxx the kid immediately, possibly putting them at even greater risk of harm than they would have been in to begin with.
We don't need to see them, anyway. We're not involved. We have nothing to gain from reading the details. If self-admitting to having inappropriate conversations with minors isn't evidence enough to convince you one way or the other, then I really don't see how reading a sext thread with a child will make much of a difference.
It was seven years ago. Unless he was talking to a ten year old, they're not a minor anymore.
And if they are...well, first of all, yikes, and second of all his career as a content creator is going to go from "damaged" to "gone" as no platform would let him stream after that.
Twitch settled with him instead of losing in arbitration for banning him. I want to see the the transcripts. It sounds like part of his settlement was that he couldn't talk about it but ex twitter employees violated the nda. That's a lot of work on twitches side to keep it hushed which makes this weirder.
He's a massive pos so it Wouldn't surprise me if he did do something worthy of this witch hint but damnit i want to see the texts before i burn him when twitch is being so weird about it.
That's a lot of work on twitches side to keep it hushed which makes this weirder.
I don't think that's weird, twitch really doesn't want the pr of being wrong or having a pedo on their platform, its a lose-lose and I would expect them to try and cover it up regardless.
He streamed inside a public bathroom at E3. Then there's also the thing where he cheated on his wife. I don't know why people are so drawn to online personalities who prove over and over again they're bad people with no intention to change.
Pretty sure that entire thing was accidental. Not that it makes the situation any better.
Well, other than just having a phone in your pocket and mistakenly hitting record, I'm not sure how it could be accidental.
He was live streaming at a venue and went to pee and forgot to turn off his camera feed iirc.
I keep thinking back to years ago when someone at work tried to tell me this guy was good and I could just tell on vibes alone to stay clear.
My t-shirt saying "I'm no fucking predator or paedophile" has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.
Seems like I have to add this moron to the ignore list right next to Musk, so I no longer see posts about him.
When you act erratic like that, you got caught. If you were innocent of even intention no long winded explanation of "they want me to disappear" would be necessary as the messages wouldnt even exist. The dildo of consequences has arrived for Guy Beahm.
The great thing with your logic is no matter what he does he is guilty for you anyways. Great logic.
It actually is a big deal. You really need to take some time to think it through to understand that. Either that or you are a troll and I'm just wasting my time right now 🤷♂️
It's called statutory rape. And he was married and 38 at the time. And he was also trying to meet this person at twitch con. And this is the same year of twitch con that he was caught cheating on his wife.
No amount of spin makes this OK. Please stop trying to justify pedophilia in defense of your favorite streamer. Sexting a minor is not ok, and the fact that even Beahm himself couldn't spin this in a way that's good for him should tell you something.
He admitted to sexting a minor. How the fuck is he not guilty and why are you out here trying to defend pedophilia?
Does anyone have a link to a source on the age of the kid? I'm wondering if I'm missing it. People keep saying she's 17. Was that in one of his edits?
Can I point out the strange parallel between this and the storyline in The Boys this week? I won't expand on it for spoilers but Jesus Christ.
I'm shocked that yet another anti-woke pos who gets triggered by pronouns turned out to be a predator. would've never guessed!
