X is about to start hiding all likes
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X is about to start hiding all likes
https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/11/24176247/x-likes-hidden-private-rollout
Soon, everyone a user likes on X will be hidden by default.
"But muh family and fwiends use it!" or "I have an autistic cousin twice removed so I can't stop because it's the only thing he'll use!"
Any excuse to keep huffing that copium.
This is literally what these walled gardens depend on. Why are mocking people for it?
Just change cities, "but my friends live here."
Just leave the cult, "but the cult separated me from all my other friends."
Like, yeah. Cult's do this on purpose to keep people locked in.
I’m not on social media except Lemmy but… I thought Facebook was the “my relatives” one and Twitter was more keeping up with politicians, celebrities, and other public figures?
Following the publication of this story, X owner Elon Musk reshared a screenshot of it, saying it’s “important to allow people to like posts without getting attacked for doing so!”
Thin-skinned Nazis don't like being called Nazis for liking other Nazi content.
A few weeks ago, X’s director of engineering, Haofei Wang, said the upcoming change is meant to protect users’ public image — because “many people feel discouraged” to like “edgy” content.
That's the fucking point, Wang. Nazis should be discouraged from liking other Nazi content. Society shouldn't tolerate bigots, much less embolden them- the way you and your boss want to do.
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This seems like an odd medium to make that complaint in; while technically lemmy exposes upvotes to other instances, so it's not really private, the client doesn't, by default, permit upvotes to be seen.
Kbin/mbin does expose upvotes; here's the upvotes on this post, for example:
Look at all the lurkers, lol.
I've always been curious about who is downvoting my stuff, I know on Reddit I'd occasionally get someone butthurt about my existing on the internet and they'd just go downvote all of my recent posts and comments.
Yes, and... ?
You don't eliminate bigoted and hateful ideology by allowing it to fester in the dark. It must be exposed for all to see.
These two assholes have succinctly summed up the problem: assholes advocating for a white Christofascist ethnostate are emboldened by the lack of consequences that anonymity provides. Musk doesn't want freedom of speech, he wants freedom from accountability of speech.
When cancel culture was not on full throttle, maybe likes being public made more sense. If only the global like count is the more widely known metric, hiding who liked what is not too significant of a change. It's not something totally out of the ordinary either, considering most contries' electoral systems guarantee the individual votes are kept secret.
They have some greatest hits too, like repeating that higher education tends to come with a left leaning bias. I don't think they realize why there is a correlation between education and those politics, but it certainly isn't what they think it is.
No, you see it's not like education makes you see past your own prejudices and that makes you more liberal. If you are liberal you get awarded an education by the shadowy cabal that controls the education system with DEI measures! This guy only wants a tRuE mERiToCrACy where disenfranchised, downtrodden bigots get a chance to attend university where they are taught about the superiority of their white Aryan race.
/s if it isn't apparent.
Regressives should be silenced. Anyone who says "We need to return to a time when X" really just means "I don't like that my race/gender/nation/sexual preference/religion doesn't have as much control as it used to".
You have just proved right there why current internet users in general don't have the maturity to have likes publicly visible. The urge to do a witch hunt is just too irresistible.
I think people with ridiculous views should not have an issue with being ridiculed for those views.
It really feels like you're the immature bunch, trying to hide who you are because you're too fragile to own up to it if it's being scrutinized.
I think people with ridiculous views should not have an issue with being ridiculed for those views.
You're under no obligation to agree with another person point of view. But, if you're presenting your arguments in good faith, you should be prepared to listen to the person you disagree with in good faith also. If you immediately disregard what others have to say just because you think it's "too ridiculous to consider", or throw the ad hominem starter pack: bigot, nazi, far-right, trumper, etc, then you're just insulating yourself in a bubble in the best case scenario, or showing you don't have the capability to articulate your argument effectively in the worst case scenario.
It really feels like you're the immature bunch, trying to hide who you are because you're too fragile to own up to it if it's being scrutinized.
It's not a matter of trying to hide anything for the sake of it. It's just that some people use the free availability of a user's previous posts/likes as a shortcut for "whataboutisms". You may disagree with other posts I made, but what is being discussed here is the reasonableness of individual "likes" being public or not.
I think the crude scrutiny of a persons past posts to be, in many cases, dishonored. The person being scrutinized may have changed their views since then, specially when the post is years-old.
As much as I have no obligation to agree with another person's views, I also have no obligation to argue about them.
There's clearly views in this world that can be pretty much dismissed outright, if you disagree you're free to go to a flat earther forum to debate them out of it.
The only reason Musk wants to hide likes is because he agrees with a bunch of really shitty and messed up positions, and he wants to not be responsible for it.
If you like a post saying "I believe that the jews did 9/11" I think it's fair for someone to look at it and go "Hey that's obviously fake, really dumb, and kinda hilarious that you're this stupid."
Witch hunts were sanctioned by the state in many cases. Getting shamed for having shitty opinions is like the barest minimum accountability.
I'm not saying it's a literal witch hunt. Never heard of metaphors and figures of speech?
And just shouting "your opinions suck!" and running away is hardly productive to a healthy discussion. If you have any counter-arguments to the topic at hand (the individual "likes" being hidden on Twitter/X), feel free to present them.
In all seriousness, I sort of pity conservatives.
They're sort of like the one kid in kindergarten who could never manage to figure out which plastic peg went in which hole and would just get frustrated and throw things. Except that they never grew out of it. Here they are, twenty or thirty or sixty years later, still unable to grasp the simple fact that the world just is what it is and the round peg isn't going to go in the square hole no matter how much you pound on it, and still angry over it, as if it's some sort of vast conspiracy rather than just the fact that they're fucking morons.
That has to be an unpleasant way to live.
Of course, they're such vile and loathsome and destructive assholes that my pity is short-lived, but still...
would just get frustrated and throw things.
Yeah. Most conservatives I know have short tempers and they get extremely carried away when they are in groups. I mean, it doesn't matter what they are getting mad at, just as long as everyone is getting pissed off at the same time and about someone else or some other ideology. The key point is they believe they are victims of "the system" or "libruls" and not their own bad choices.
It's very similar to how Putin is constantly crying about how Russia is a victim of NATO aggression, actually.
Just tell a person that their way of life is being attacked and that you have all the solutions.(Simplified Hermann Goering quote. Allegedly.)
This is one of the more eloquent definitions I've seen of conservatives. It's exactly how I see them operate.
The fucked up thing is that a lot of the younger ones I've seen recently have that knowledge that their destructive worldviews are messed up, but continue with it out of trauma or some kind of sadism.
I'd guess that many of the older ones have doubled down on that so many times, they can't remember it ever being a decision or up for internal debate. So, they just keep digging their hateful holes in the sand, ready to plunge their heads in any time they hear something that upsets their delicate, irrational, fantasies.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
No, everything goes in the square hole.
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Well damn.
No - I very deliberately used round peg in the square hole, initially just to avoid the cliche, but the more I thought about it, the more I liked it.
Conservatives pound on round/natural/organic/smooth pegs to try to force them into square/artificial/contrived/rigid holes.
I liked it anyway....
Elon Musk trying to be “edgy” and just coming off like the most divorced man on Earth is pretty funny. I’m still not using Vichy Twitter but it is funny watching a grown ass, 52 year-old man try to be an edgelord.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France
The joke here being that Elon is a Nazi who took over Twitter? Not sure really.
When France was Vichy France it was controlled and occupied by nazis. Now Twitter is Vichy Twitter.
Following the publication of this story, X owner Elon Musk reshared a screenshot of it, saying it’s “important to allow people to like posts without getting attacked for doing so!”
"We've listened to our users who've voice concerns about being labeled 'racist piece of shit' merely for supporting tweets that suggest that other races are less human than white people. Today we're doubling down on our own brand of 'freedom of speech' to mean 'freedom from consequences'. From today forward, twitter users will be safe and comfortable voicing their (anonymous) support for the most disgusting racist, homophobic, or misogynistic tweets imaginable." -Twitter PR probably
No no no. It's not like that! Twitter doesn't have a PR team. They were fired 2 years ago. Along with tech support. Plus twitter doesn't exist. Only X which continues to bring the worst ideas forward to make the world full of shit.
Pays $40 billion to allow people to be shadow toxic. What an amazing innovator in our midsts. We're all just so jealous we wish we could be so genius ...
Fucking moron.
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it would have been so much cheaper to just start the xchan imageboard from scratch instead taking 4 years turning twitter into it
His reasoning for wanting to do this is so bad and clearly a racist dog whistle; everyone should be able to like things that they would be ashamed to like publicly with their name attached!
- First they came for the checkmarks, but I did not speak up because I was not famous.
Then they came for the api, but I did not speak because I was no researcher.
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A few weeks ago, X’s director of engineering, Haofei Wang, said the upcoming change is meant to protect users’ public image — because “many people feel discouraged” to like “edgy” content.
Oh my god, he's trying to make it Reddit.
Xwitter has become a master class in autocracy, how one guy with power and a fragile ego can bring an entire empire to ruin.
Here in the states with Project 2025 burning bright in the future promised by the Republican Party, we should be watching this closely.
Ruin, yet sooooooo many people are still using it.
Seems to be working out for him. He's able to control what people are allowed to see and say, which is the main thing he wanted.
Dude is also about to get $56B richer, there is no chance of it failing financially at this point as long as he's still able to have this much influence with it.
Every time I think wtf is he doing, I remember about this theory he is destroying twitter on purpose, because it was a network with to much influence for example the arab spring.
Every time I hear somebody mention that theory I remember that most people believe Elon isn't a massive moron
No no, I believe he is a massive moron, with or without this theory. Because doing this on purpose, doesn't make it better.
I think the count still shows, just not named. Musk think people are afraid to like the stuff he likes (far right BS)
The funny thing is, it's not actually hidden if you know how to see them. Just throw "/likes" after a profile. They only hid the fucking button.
So, first you organize posts by like count for signed out users, and now you're hiding the like count altogether? Now how are you gonna organize posts now?