Post the links in the comments so folks can explore them and give their own input!
Post the links in the comments so folks can explore them and give their own input!
I would prefer none.
As @MiraculousMM@hexbear.net stated in their comment there is no real reason to open up the floodgates and dilute our site's style and culture with content from another instance.
If you want to argue with folks, go create accounts on those instances. Don't clutter up my experience on this site because you want to argue with a bunch of people on the internet.
It's the same with the issue of "oh but I want to see more content from communities that hexbear doesn't have"
Ok. Go create an account on a Lemmy instance that is federated, or the instance where that community is and participate there.
It just doesn't make sense to me. Nobody on hexbear is hopefully using their real name, so what are you gaining by having federation? Bringing your clout with you to other sites?
It's just silly. We all have browsers that can save logins, so it's not about managing logins. Make new accounts on other sites and leave hexbear as it is.
If you want to argue with folks, go create accounts on those instances. Don't clutter up my experience on this site because you want to argue with a bunch of people on the internet.
worth noting that you can just filter out all posts that originate from comms/external instances that aren't Hexbear's. Users from other federated instances can post in Hexbear's comms and you'll see that - but those posts would be subject to Hexbear moderation and whatnot.
It just doesn't make sense to me. Nobody on hexbear is hopefully using their real name, so what are you gaining by having federation? Bringing your clout with you to other sites?
more users, posts, etc. not to mention solidarity with other leftist places like lemmygrad. I mean - just look at some of the instances Bruja posted below. Is there not a single one of those that you'd maybe be interested in seeing a post from, assuming you're not filtering by Hexbear comms only? Our Gardening/Earth comms aren't that active and I wouldn't mind seeing posts from Mander or The Garden, for example. And those are just some instances one person recommended that we could possibly federate with.
I'm sure we'll get shitheads but it is worth considering what we'll actually gain!
Everyone that isn't fash, but we should take our time to make sure we don't completely implode. Let's join just lemmygrad for, idk, a few days with an announcement reminding people to play nice with our comrades, then branch out to smaller commie instances and then push rightward (in terms of the leaning of cites we federated with) until we have all the non-fash (non-criminal/loli/snuff/etc) instances.
It's my impression that even federating with a porn instance creates legal liability, but I think that's a different topic.
People are viewing our sites culture as fragile. That is false. It can be killed if we tremendously fuck up, but our history on cth proves that it is a vector of infection at least as much as it is a victim. The libs have more to worry about from our culture than we do theirs.
site culture isn't a hearts of iron game where you slowly color the lemmy map red. even just federating with lemmygrad would lead to an influx of anti-anarchist sectarian swerfs to the community, which is going to be a headache both for users and for the moderators and is a permanent irreconcilable point for large sections of both sites
unlike reddit, everybody is specifically going out of their way to go to lemmy. there is no spectre, there is no constant influx of chuds that don't know about hogposting
if your goal was to agitate over the internet and send people towards hexbear you would be making accounts on reddit and other social media, not imagining converting sites the size of less popular CS:GO servers
I flatly reject your characterization of lemmygrad (the swerf claim is bullshit) but anyway you are more significantly incorrect in imagining people as so static in their beliefs and alignment. People who are interested in radical politics are people who are alienated from the status quo and overwhelmingly clinging to the psychological bouies of whatever interpretive lens they have been able to determine -- from the vantage point of mostly-narrow experience with other lenses and what their current one is -- suits them the best. If they encounter something on a regular basis that can plausibly serve them better even despite the biases of their current view, they will generally accept it over time.
I think there is an actual ability to do more than just preserve our virginal purity of comfort and illusory social harmony from being "diluted" by these people who you only rhwtorically conceptualize like a toxin or chaff.
so do you think that lemmygrad would eventually change their rules on sectarianism, or will it need to be heavily moderated on hexbear's end for the entirety of federation?
this entire search page is but a single week of lemmygrad posting about anarchists
my bad, I forgot the search doesn't default to new, i'll change it
page 1 still goes back to a year ago -- which incidentally is user "TheConquestOfBread" reposting from Hexbear, and there multiple posts from that blatant Anarcho-Bidenist ziq or one of their cult members (I shudder to think what someone who follows them is like). A lot of the rest of it is reasonable conversation about what the ML/anarchist split is and also why those liberals on other instances even bother to call themselves "anarchists" to begin with.
Like, yeah, some of them will need to temper their speech to participate here, but it's not a well of seething hatred like the "anti-tankie" instances are for their respective target. I am confident that the vast majority of them can hang and the outliers can stay where they are or get bonked.
if you sort by comments alone it takes 12 pages to reach a year ago
this is an example of a highly upvoted comment on lemmygrad, 25 upvotes from 4 days ago: "Yeah, Anarchists don’t seem to actually want to succeed in anything. They just want to perpetually feel superior about their morals as well as comfortable that nothing will ever change. They want to be cool, contrarian good guys, imagining a world that will only ever exist in books and stories."
is it possible you think a lot of this is reasonable conversation because you were already reprimanded for sectarianism twice on this site?