https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/16/biden-fund-gets-money-from-son-of-gop-donor-larry-ellison.html
The donation by David Ellison backing President Joe Biden is a coup for allies of the incumbent Democrat, who will face Donald Trump in the November election.
Yup. His father is HUGE into supporting the Prostitutive Arts. He must be as well.
Ahh, genetics determine behavior eh? That certainly explains why every Trump descendant is a ripe cunt.
I wonder what the angle is here…
Or maybe it’s a hedge play. Have son donate to Democrats. Shitty father continues to donate to GOP.
Or maybe son is angling for a tech regulation to break up father’s empire. In the fallout, he secures a larger piece of his fathers empire.
Its common practice for the wealthy to play both sides. You would see a lot more of it if you could trace all the dark money.
They forced tiktok to store all their data on Oracle's servers, and I'm sure Oracle gets billions of dollars in government contracts through other ways as well. Some of that's flowing back to the politicians that will continue to make those decisions.
Also the possibility that the son knows his dad is a dick, and knows one of the best ways to stick it to his old man is to donate some of his own nepo-baby money to something that is in direct opposition to his dad's donations.
Or it could just be that the son isn't a conservative dickhead and wants the correct choice to win, everything doesn't have to be some weird conspiracy (though sometimes it is ofc)
To quote George Carlin: it's a big club and you ain't in it..
Just rich people looking out for the interests of rich people. That economy Biden is being praised so much for? The stock market, 90%+ of which is owned by the richest 10%.
Larry Ellison, who historically has been a major Republican donor, has not made a single federal political donation so far in 2024, records show. Ellison donated more than $ 3 I million to GOP candidates during the 2022 congressional midterms, according to data from OpenSecrets.
I suspect the family is intentionally sending a message. Lbr, having the son of a proud republican donate to the most neoliberal candidate of 2020/4 isn't going to be taboo among any of the wealth. Many may donate to "both" sides even. This isn't a son snubbing his father, this is a wealthy family of influence that have the bare minimum of human decency to not pay to have chaos in the white house again.
You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. - Bryan Cantrill
Plutocracy, if you want to get pedantic.
Coprolithocracy, if you want to get snarky. (rule by fossilized feces)
...I'm leaning toward the latter.
Let's all gather to celebrate the super-rich supporters of our guy corrupting democracy and cast scorn on their super-rich supporters of their guy corrupting democracy.
I mean, Biden's campaign having more money is generally a good thing, but it's not good news when a single person gives $929,600 after having a private meeting with a politician.
You think Biden is corrupting democracy?
The private meeting was "less than a dozen people" hosted by a real estate dude. Not a politician or even CEO- NOT to say he didn't have power but it definitely is not one that can extend much farther than the reach of his wallet.
Meanwhile we have a disgraced former president that clogged the courts with bogus claims, uses his influence to sic followers on people he doesn't like, been accused of (and in some cases, convicted) tax fraud, rape, sexual assualt/harassment, shit wait, THERE IS A LIST!
I know it sounds like I'm being combative but I genuinely don't hear any details that make biden suck. They make him suck like every other president has sucked, but not like a dictator. It's boring politics actual shit that we should agree to disagree on because it's way too complicated, not this "is a book terrible for kids cuz 2 men hold hands in it?"
Honestly, if you're going to be combative this is exactly the kind of thing to be combative about.
"Biden sucks!!! 1!" vs Dude I literally can not trust to leave at a 2nd round of 4 more years after throwing a temper tantrum worse than a 4 year old child losing at Monopoly.
Yeah I'll take more milquetoast president please with a side helping of respect for the rule of fucking law.
You're right. I suppose it is that I don't mean it personally, as I'm arguing the idea, rhetoric, mindset etc and not necessarily challenging that individual's specific beliefs. But still encouraging them to share because I do appreciate learning other perspectives.
Maybe someday it will be something I haven't heard before. Maybe.
$929,600 donations are corrupting democracy. To anyone. Biden met privately with this guy before he signed over nearly a million dollars. Are you sure there was no quid-pro-quo in this interaction? Some people in his administration seem to be there because they were donors, not on personal competence.
Do you expect someone skeptical about Biden or the government in general to feel more or less confident in the strength and validity of our democracy after a private meeting yields just under a million dollars from a single individual? There's a reason judges are supposed to recuse for the appearance of conflict of interest, not whether they actually are biased. When government officials' motivations are questionable, people lose faith in government, which in turn makes it easier for "outsiders" to come in and wreck it all. A strong democracy with broad faith in government doesn't produce politicians like Trump. The malaise and distrust stemming from this form of politics feeds directly into the threat.
He's going to need a lot...
It cost over a billion last election and he only won by 30k across a few states.
His numbers are lower this cycle, it's going to cost a lot more.
But obviously we can't run a candidate that's already popular. Or even just isn't actively supporting a genocide.
I don't know if you're getting downvoted for saying genocide or for saying that the US is actively supporting genocide, but both are true and I stand with you on that.
He's being downvoted because he's a Trump voter who is pretending to be on the fence and that he "can't morally vote for Biden". While the person he does vote for gives out government secrets, commits fraud after fraud and is waiting to sell Ukraine and would still openly support Israel.
He's not wrong about Biden supporting Genocide, he's just being disingenuous about what he actually wants. Genocide is a US thing, not a President thing, so you have to subtract that from both sides. At least one side is not going to support a genocide in Ukraine.
I'm also not a Trump voter that can't morally vote for Biden. I'll likely throw my vote away on a 3rd party so I can sleep at night.
I'm convinced the D's are actively throwing this election. Its too lucrative to say "Not Trump" and get donations. Biden is a worse candidate than Hillary and we all know how that one went.
Spoiler: You're a Trump supporter.
That's just because you don't understand FPTP. "Throwing away your vote to 3rd party" is not throwing away anything, it's giving 1 less vote for Trump to win. Same as not voting at all. Dems are not looking at the 3rd party and having remorse they should have picked someone else. Your attempt does nothing but hurt.
And everybody knows what a 3rd party means. 3rd parties are heavily funded by the opposition to take away from the party they aligned the most with. GOP will directly fund dems 3rd party to make them lose.
Giving an edge to Trump let's you sleep at night, but some of us have women and children in our lives that depend on Trump not getting into office, so you go ahead and sleep.
Edit: this is also you laughing at men in drag supporting Gaza:
That's hilarious...they understand they'd be stoned to death in Gaza right? That is an odd odd thing.
You are here crying genocide but you think Gaza is a shithole that we shouldn't support because their government stones ppl. Nobody takes you seriously, your problem with Biden isn't Israel, that's just how you save face for being a bigot.
So if I don't vote for Trump, or vote 3rd party, AND don't vote for Biden, is that one less vote for Biden to win? Not voting for any of them can't possibly mean I'm benefitting all of the candidates at the same time, right?
...I may have confused myself, slightly sleep deprived.
By not voting at all, you give the most chances to the person you want the least in office.
Except in reality where unless you live in a swing state, a non vote doesn't change much. Abstaining in California doesn't support Trump, nor would Abstaining in Kentucky. Unless the smallest of statistical outcomes happens those states are locked, and if were going to decide based on small possibilities, may as well just vote for a candidate you actually want.
I know no one takes me seriously. The Democrats have ground that into my skull since halfway through Obama's term.
It's also why Biden is down 5 points.
I shrug at this point. The Internet is not a real place.
Just because you don't fit on the internet doesn't mean it's not a real place.
I just explained why your arguments are flawed, and instead of thinking about it, looking it up or even attempting to defend it with facts, you give up and say youre misunderstood.
This is what you want, you want to have to stop dealing with other opinions and do whatever you want. We call that a dictatorship.
I also bet youre a white male who has no horse in the race of most policies Trump is destroying