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Dragons Dogma 2: To Dragon's Dogma 2 players on Steam

Dragon's Dogma 2 - To Dragon's Dogma 2 players on Steam - Steam News

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2054970/view/4106792732433556918

To all Dragon's Dogma 2 players We would like to update you on the status of the following items, about which we have received numerous comments from the community. To all those looking forward to this game, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience. ■Crashes and bug fixes We are investigating/fixing critical problems such as crashes and freezing. We will be addressing crashes and bug fixes starting from those with the highest priority in patches in the near future.

Dragon's Dogma 2 - To Dragon's Dogma 2 players on Steam - Steam News

30 comments

bionicjoey

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Fucked up that they're calling it "paid DLC" to buy fast travel tokens. DLC implies content, not simply basic functionality.

nanoUFO

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When your sneaky microtransactions completely tank your game sales and you don't back down.

Eggyhead

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The option of starting a new game We are looking at adding a feature to the Steam version of the game that will allow players that are already playing to restart the game. We will announce more details as soon as we can.

Was this problem exclusive to the Steam version of the game or something?

CaptPretentious

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I almost can promise that "feature" Will probably have a $5 price tag, per slot.

TimLovesTech

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Posted this in the other thread also.

In the interest of clearing up this continuing deluge of misinformation, I think cowboy at the end of his stream today said it better than I did earlier today. Plus he is likely to know more than anyone here as he had completed both endings before release with his advanced copy.

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TimLovesTech

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It's all stuff that came with the Deluxe Edition, and was made DLC so it could be bought separately I guess if that's your jam. Says right below the Deluxe description - "Items in this set can also be purchased separately", so everyone should have been aware since it showed up on Steam.

metallic_substance

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Yo... That's not the point. Roping off features that are typically an expected part of a ($70!) game to squeeze more profits from your customers is fucking slimy and greedy. If you aren't angry or at least disappointed by this, you are part of the problem

ZeroTHM

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Quick genuine question, what features are "roped off"? I know it's not fast travel, cause that's extremely cheap (like 200 gold max) and can take you to places you haven't been yet. Is it the character editor? I belive that can be bought with RC in game though, which is a currency that's earned in game as well. Which features are sequestered in DLC?

jacksilver

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For me, it's that a single player focused game should never have paid consumables. Either I'm paying for additional content or it's a rip off.

ZeroTHM

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But the consumables are also purchasable with (easily) obtainable in game currency as well? This is like getting mad at a final fantasy game if they have a DLC that has 5 potions included, like they're not in the shop in the first city.

Maalus

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Okay, if it's so easy to earn, why have it be a paid dlc at all? Maybe just include it in every version of the game?

TimLovesTech

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It is included in every version of the game. And it is clear you are arguing a point you are not even informed about, joining in the misinformation spreading about a game that is actually pretty fun to play.

Maalus

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No it is not included, you have to make in-game money to unlock it. So why not include everything from the start? You can also pay money to have everything from the start, so this doesn't track

ZeroTHM

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It is in every version of the game, just not in your inventory from the get go. There's nothing in the DLC that's not obtainable in just the first few hours of the game.

Maalus

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Then why make it a paid dlc and instead why not include it from the get-go?

TimLovesTech

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It's exactly the "point". Nobody is making you buy anything, and the price of the "DLC" items is the difference between the regular and deluxe edition. It's not like they are charging anyone more for missing out on going deluxe, and if you got regular and only want the camp kit it's $2.99 instead of the upgrade $10. It all seems reasonable to me, nothing is "pay to win", and it's a single player game. If you "cheat" your only ruining it for yourself. Plus modders have already found ways to dupe stuff too.

And I guess if being reasonable instead of crying because a reviewer didn't read about the game they were given for free, so be it. I read what I was buying and I'm opting out of the made up drama.

metallic_substance

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Digging in because you know you're wrong and in a corner. Classic move.

You are in the extreme minority defending this behavior and you are 100% on the wrong side of it. Get absolutely fucked for defending these practices

BleatingZombie

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It's not even just this one thread. Look at their comment history. They're defending this game like it's their job

TimLovesTech

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I'm defending this game because I have actually played it, unlike what seems the rest of this thread has not. I see nothing but misinformation being spread, and when confronted on all of it, you have all doubled down on remaining ignorant because it fuels your talking point of "CAPCOM bad", "mtx bad". Where, had you ACTUALLY played the game you would know you have to go out of your way to even find the mtx, and they are next to worthless. It's all stuff you get in a normal play through.

BleatingZombie

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Many others have played it, too. Are you saying their opinions aren't as valid as yours because you had a positive experience?

You're really taking a page out of "Animal Farm" with the "some people are born more equal than others"

TimLovesTech

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Exactly the opposite. I am 100% behind anyone that has actually played it and has valid concerns, like performance being the big one. I'm only against the pitchfork brigade parroting things that are outright untrue, and has tangible evidence as proof. I do not peddle in, or tolerate, the alternative facts business.

Maalus

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Probably is lol

TimLovesTech

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How many hours do you have in game? If you have played any you know this is all made up drama and everything is in game, and the mtx that everyone has their pitchforks out for isn't even forced on you, you need to seek it out to even find it. And then when you do find them it's not worth the money VS just getting the stuff in game.

And I'm not going to standby while people spread misinformation, and you have found yourself on the wrong side of the facts.

metallic_substance

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This is absolutely the definition of a bad faith argument. Nobody is going to argue with you (myself included) because you have convinced yourself you are right while ignoring reality. There's actually no point in trying. It's kinda sad tbh

TimLovesTech

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You are the one making a bad faith argument, based on some random stuff you read on the internet. Had you actually played the game you would know that:

The mtx is not pushed on anyone, and you need to go out of your way to even find/notice.
It's all stuff you acquire in a normal play-through, making it essentially useless.

But go ahead and continue to white knight for the misinformation spreaders, just know that you have been misinformed/mislead and should do a little research before you get out your pitchfork next time.

metallic_substance

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lol. It's so sad to lose an argument so soundly then desperately continue to grasp for straws. What a supremely irritating person you must be irl

Ookami38

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No the "point" is that in any given game, fast travel is a system that is either there or it isn't. Particularly in a single player games experience. That's a feature that's expected, and locking it behind a paywall, even if it's listed as a feature only added by dlc, feels shitty.

It would be like releasing a game, and charging for a pause menu. Some games don't pause, some do. To lock that basic feature behind a payment is silly, greedy, wrong.

I feel the same way when I go to some gas stations here. Everywhere has the lowest grade on the left. Then you get this shady AF shell station or something, and the high grade is the left most one. You KNOW they're doing that to catch people unaware. Is it illegal? No. Does it instill any confidence in your business? Hell no.

TimLovesTech

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Your argument is ill informed. The fast travel stuff is all in the game, nothing is pay-walled. And anyone tell you such is feeding you misinformation. It seems a large number of people haven't even played the game but are ready to get out the pitchforks over stuff they aren't even informed about.

I also would love to see people that don't own the game label their post as such so we could see how many here are just going by hearsay from some random information they have read in the past couple of days. I'm guessing the overwhelming majority never even bought the game and have no become a vessel for misinformation white knighting a talking point that doesn't even make sense.

ryathal

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I have no problem with deluxe edition things being independently available as dlc. Honestly more games should do that.