•

Dwarf Fortress creator blasts execs behind brutal industry layoffs: 'I think they're horrible… greedy, greedy people'

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/sim/dwarf-fortress-creator-blasts-execs-behind-brutal-industry-layoffs-they-can-all-eat-s-i-think-theyre-horrible-greedy-greedy-people/

Tarn Adams doesn't mince words when it comes to the dire state of the games industry.

Dwarf Fortress creator blasts execs behind brutal industry layoffs: 'I think they're horrible… greedy, greedy people'

24 comments

mathemachristian

•

Welcome to capitalism? The growth cannot stop or we will descend into war

NOT_RICK

•

Life is just one big clicker. What is life if the numbers don’t go up?

Ashyr

•

Blasting is okay, so long as no one got slammed. Decorum demands we draw a line somewhere!

BaroqueInMind

•

Modern media is so savage using such language such as "slammed" "destroyed" etc.

isles

•

Dwarf Fortress Devs Annihilated Execs

Typically the comments are merely somewhat critical. But it gets clicks. And ad revenue makes the world go round.

grrgyle

•

Wow PCG article destroyed by lemmy user

Ashyr

•

What grotesquerie have our hands wrought?

Scientician

•

I just want the macOS version of DF Steam. I bought that like two years ago when it came out to support.

XenoStare

•

All the layoffs were inevitable with the extremely obvious bubble in any computer related jobs. Same as dotcom bubble with a bunch of superfluous hires for superfluous tasks and ridiculous budgets that were not going to pan out. So yes now we'll have tons of unemployed programmers and art departments from companies overhiring for at least a decade.

bulwark

•

I love dwarf fortress, but it easy to throw stones when your company consists of two people.

themoken

•

It's a bit more than that with Kitfox involved, but I don't see why that makes him wrong. Greed kills a ton of creativity in games. Not just layoffs but over aggressive monetization and fear of innovation.

unreasonabro

•

there's a reason his company is still two people dawg.

chunkystyles

•

Doesn't make Tarn wrong.

I feel it's important to note that the brothers worked on this game for nearly twenty years, giving it away for free.

wintermute_oregon

•

I know little about the game industry. I saw one person say it’s because of the high interest rates. Games cost so much to produce, they have to borrow most of it and the rates have screwed them.

No idea if thats true.

Feyd

•

Giant companies can't use profit from the last game they made to fund the next one?

karmiclychee

•

Profit? Or exploit?

wintermute_oregon

•

I think you need to look at most companies. They are heavily in debt. So the profits just Ktlo and keep the payment paid.

chunkystyles

•

The problem is capitalism, in general. But more specifically, it's the current era of capitalism where line must always go up. Growth must be infinite.

unreasonabro

•

Just as one entertaining example, here in ontario the government sells weed, but at black market prices, and then when they couldn't sell what they had, they let it sit so long it had to be destroyed rather than simply lowering the price. So, we're 1. not interfering with the black market, 2. no longer accounting for supply and demand through price adjustment... and there's no real reason why but pride. People are proud when the cost of the item they produce goes up, enjoy the income, and forget that it works the other way too. Flooding the market with cheap, good shit is considered shitting the bed, so to speak. Pandering twats...

It used to be called collusion, but hey, usury used to be 3%. /shrug

/end drug addict rant

wintermute_oregon

•

Well under communism you wouldn’t have games or at least nothing like we have today. So I’ll take the capitalist approach. The idea of starving just doesn’t appeal to me.

chunkystyles

•

Horseshit.

You're saying this in a thread about a game that is literally free and has been the passion project of two brothers for nearly 20 years.

You might not see games like GTA or CoD. Might not. But even that's still possible.

wintermute_oregon

•

In twenty years they produced about a million in income. The budget for call of duty was 250 million dollars. Apples and oranges.

chunkystyles

•

under communism you wouldn’t have games or at least nothing like we have today.

My brother in Christ, I was refuting your point.

wintermute_oregon

•

So we’d have some half ass game that took twenty years to produce? Well comrade, that refutes everything I said.