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"Fetuses are babies too!β
I bet 97% of people would scream in horror if a fetus would crawl towards them
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Brave of you to assume fetuses can crawl... in nearly all stages of development there are no developed locomotion muscles.
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That's an interesting point, and would make a dope video art exhibit. I'm not sure cuteness is quite philosophically sound as a way to measure personhood, though.
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That's not a good argument, nor true.
A foetus is the stage after the embryo, when organogenesis is done meaning tissue and organs have formed, right up to the point of delivery.
This means at delivery, a foetus becomes a baby by coming out, no other changes.
So i wouldn't really call that difference relevant in a moral debate. The stages of development or number of weeks is, but you can't really distinguish the two without this specification.
That's why where i live we allow 14 weeks after the first absence of periods for example.
Edit : I don't know why i got downvoted, i'd love to hear why i'm wrong. Maybe just to be clear, i agree with abortion, just not this argument.
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But my god is more peaceful than yours. You'll accept this or I'll have to kill you. /s
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Thank you for visualizing my comment. I did a 43 second google search and didnβt find it.
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Fucking hell America. That wasn't even the only shooting of a young person that week. From the Wikipedia page about one of the other shootings:
The shooting gained notoriety for being one of four shootings that occurred in a one-week period in the US that were characterized by young people being met with gunfire after making a mistake.
Oh, and one of the other ones involved a 6 year old child and her parents after a basketball they were playing with rolled down the street and onto his property. Nobody died, thank the gods, but the guy who did that one was already out on bail for domestic abuse/assault.
What the fuck is wrong with that country that shit like this can happen and it doesn't step back and reevaluate its relationship to guns?
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Listen, I think there should be a lot more regulation of guns in America. But just from a media literacy standpoint, can we not take two incidents as a statement about every American?
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This was four separate incidents in one week.
And I know that there are some Americans who want to see change, but the fact is that as a society you've gone for decades knowing this was a problem and deciding you'd rather keep the problem than fix it. I feel for those Americans who are more sane, I really do. Certainly I don't agree with everything my government has done or is doing. But I also wouldn't take it as a personal insult if someone were to say "wtf Australia" when criticising that government's decisions, because it would be accurate.
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You're right it's appropriate to say "wtf America" about gun violence generally. I think what I was stuck on is while extremely fucked up that someone shot a person for turning around in their driveway, in a country of over 300 million people that particular thing is still a fluke. I hadn't heard of the other incidents mentioned in that Wikipedia article until you said there were four.
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This is the eternal stalemate of our two party system. Everyone agrees that there are many big obvious problems that need addressing, both parties want to solve it their own way, but (for better and worse) both only have the power to prevent the other from doing anything.
A few years back it snowed in Seattle, which is uncommon. I saw a video where folks were having a snowball fight, as you do. A snowball entered the partially open window of a driver. The lady proceeded to Hop the curb, and drive up some embankments trying to hit people with her car.
For a fuckin snowball.
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Guy I know was in his car when it was hit by kids having a snowball fight. So he drove straight at them onto the pavement, trapped them in a shop doorway and cracked their heads together before heading in his way. There was an article in the local paper about the police looking for him because one of the kids suffered a broken jaw. He still feels that it was a justifiable course of action .
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That guy is a fuckin menace, and a liar to boot. If he really thought he was justified he'd have turned himself in to the police, but he knew what he did was wrong even if he will never admit it to anyone including himself.
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The dude is an asshole, but this is bad legal advice. Never talk to the cops directly. Always go through your lawyer.
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Yes, I - a not-lawyer - am dispensing legal advice on this internet forum post. Fine work identifying it as such, detective; I'll see you back at the law factory.
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That guy is a fuckin menace, and a liar to boot.
Yes and yes. I am frequently shocked at the things he will admit to doing.
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This is mind blowing to me. I understand different perspective and everything and am not trying to knock anyone that genuinely and whole heartedly gets into it. But I cant wrap my head around "X knows best so we must kill for them because they taught us that way." Like there's actually people that think like that while acting like they are their own individual and not just a cog in someone else's game.
On the other hand some people grow up in that culture and are that. Those are the real ones.
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Revenge. How should killing a person make it better?
And war, some rich people profit, normal people die
because they're mad at the person for being gay, trans, or a different race or religion than you.
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We get in a fight at a tripple crossroads. He dies. Then I go back to his kingdom and marry his wife. Little did I know she was my mother and he was my father...
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Well if you kill everyone, will there be anyone left to shame you? Therefore, it wouldn't be dumb to kill people then.
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And when you kill a man, you're a murderer. Kill many and you're a conqueror. Kill them all and you're a god.
Edit: oh. That's my answer to op: religion.
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What if we are in a simulation and the only way to truly live is to die in the simulation?
"If someone tries to kill you, you kill 'em right back." - Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
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Please....
You can almost always try to kiss someone and they'll recoil and back down. Or is that just me?
Ime it works great for small town guys.
Except Bill. Bill.... Bill went all the way.