Indirectly asking for recommendations on what to watch.
Indirectly asking for recommendations on what to watch.
It's not just that the ending is perfect (though it absolutely is). It's that at every point, in every season, when they could have chosen the easy, dumbed-down route for continuing the show, they... didn't. They didn't do that, and it's hard to express what a difference that makes.
For example (without spoilers), the way season 1 ended set up, for a lesser show, an easy rehash for season 2, where the same characters get up to slightly different versions of the same season 1 hijinks.
Instead, the show runners packed that painfully obvious concept into the first half of the first episode of season 2, then moved right past it. They could have milked the concept for a whole season, but they didn't want to. So instead they acknowledged it in the most hilarious possible way, then got on with the actual story.
Goddamn, now I want to watch it again. It's just so good.
Thanks for the insight, it's one of the few shows I've rewatched.
There's an official podcast with the showrunners and the cast members where they do post episode discussions. It's a great listen after watching an episode.
Michael Schur’s book is also on audible and quite entertaining. And it adds context to the next rewatch
Season 3 and Season 4 both had endings that leave me bawling every time.
Also, I know the show didn't invent it, but Chidi's presentation of the wave idea just slips under everything for me and is really good.
The humor is great, writing and acting are top notch.
But it hit atheist me on a spiritual level and awakened a thing I didn't think existed.
That's pretty fuckin rad.
I read books after the show, very rare few cases I can sit through so many books even when I know the story.
Just finished Blue Eye Samurai recently, and was utterly blown away. It really is as good as the hype says.
Does it end? I ended my subscription with Netflix due to the repeated cancellation of shows I would get into.
It definitely setup a season 2 but the endings were still alll satisfying enough that if it doesn’t happen it’s not a massive cliffhanger. Like there’s more story but the conflicts in season 1 were resolved if that makes sense.
I think Mr Robot is one the best shows ever created in regards to not only the writing, acting, filming, etc. but also with how well it handles the sensitive topics of mental health and the brutalities of our modern society. That being said, I understand why a lot of people don't like it. Aside from being depressing and fucked up as hell a lot of the time, it kinda has to be watched multiple times to be truly appreciated. Every episode is packed full tiny details and clues as to what is really going on that are not meant to noticed on the first watch but give you an entirely different story the second time around. If you ever want to try it again maybe go into it with mindset that what you see right then is not necessarily the entire story, and that's kinda the point. Your supposed to be confused, frustrated, and uncomfortable because that is what the characters are feeling.
But yeah, Allice in Borderland was a lovely surprise.
Schitts creek.
It was pushed so hard by Netflix when it first came out that I ignored it. Just seemed like an overdone rich fish out of water idea and I just wasn't interested.
I finally got round to it when I think they did another promotional push. After watching it I basically forced every person I know to watch it and it is now a comfort show that I've watched a bazillion times.
But it is just so good.
As a Canadian, when it was first released I assumed it was being pushed so hard because it was Canadian content. Then when I got around to watching it I was so pleasantly surprised. My little maple syrup heart was so happy to see it recognized widely as the absolute gem it is.
Help me through this, because I watched the first couple seasons, maybe even the first three? To the point where the son opens up his own store.
I found it charming, quirky, and largely enjoyable. But then it just sort of felt repetitive? Like, I couldn't see where the plot was going and the characters while enjoyable, I felt I'd enjoyed enough.
Is there a drastic uptick that I just needed to hold out for? Or at that point is the show pretty much what you sees what you get?
I think it's one of the few shows I've ever watched with genuine character growth. A ton of shows will have a character grow and then walk it back, or don't even bother. Schitt's Creek didn't turn them into Mary Sues - they're still flawed but they also learn how to look outside their bubble.
If it's not clicking for you after season 3, it may not be the show for you. A lot of people didn't love the first season as it found its footing, but everyone I know that loved it was fully invested in season 2.
If David didn't have an effect on you? Why the fuck are you ending statements with question marks?
😂
I see it as a stand-in for the inflection people sometimes make irl when seeking affirmation for what they're saying. Imo, it's not bad as a way to add tone or subtext ("I get this might be an unpopular opinion; what do you think?"), but it is not grammatically correct in a professional email
Yeah keep watching. David and the store is a big thing. The character arcs are worth it. Some very heartwarming stuff coming up with everyone.
Arcane, the animated League of Legends show on Netflix.
Oh MY GOD, every element is seriously SO mind-blowingly good. And imo its animation is at least as good as—if not better than—the Miles Morales Spiderman movies... though they did spend six years working on it tbf.
And to be clear, while I'm vaguely familiar with LoL, I've never played it so I had zero emotional connection to any of the characters before watching.
Be prepared to cry though. Like the loud, punched-in-the-gut, ugly sobbing kind of crying.
Best thing to happen to the "manic pixie dream girl" trope. When you meet Powder, she's a sweet, but traumatized, little girl. All you want to do is stand between her and the things that are hurting her so she can just grow up and be normal.
And then you see her become this hurting, angry, and above-all disturbed person who's been broken by everything she's been through, and it effing hurts. Suddenly rather than an adolescent fantasy, she's a real person you care about who's been driven to madness by circumstances she had very little control over.
Since I rate everything I watch for now a about 4 years, I can confirm. Arcane is one of 5 Series with 10 out of 10. (With 200+ rated items)
Would recommend 100%
I avoided Bojack Horseman for years because I thought it was going to be like so many other edgy adult cartoons. I thought I knew what it was going to be like. I was so wrong.
I came here to recommend BoJack. Especially after that moment in the middle of Season 1, it's a masterpiece.
The show is also unique for me in the sense that IMO the later seasons were the best, this making it a series that actually gets better and better over time.
Ted Lasso is a great stepping stone to get into soccer and also throughout its 3 seasons a great, empathetic critique of toxic masculinity and how racism, homophobia and narcissism affect individuals and groups. The writing, the characters, both the villains and the team members are well written and incredibly funny. One of my favourite shows I didn’t expect really like.
Cougartown is also very funny, I loved Community and had seen Abed reference the show several times before finally watched Cougartown. Lots of clever gags and jokes, well thought out, flawed characters with interesting dynamics and (mis)adventures.
Yeah, it really doesn’t have all that much to do with football at all lol, more of a plot device than an actual theme.
For anyone reading, don't let the name Cougar Town deter you. It's not a good name and not really representative of the show (past the first few episodes maybe). They even make fun of it.
I love Ted Lasso season 1, and season 2 to an extent is also very good, but it kinda lost its footing in season 3, IMO.
The longer episodes are not as tight, writing-wise, and the story suffers a quite a bit because of it. Still a good show, but it went from "This might be one of the best shows I've ever seen," to "Yeah it's not bad, but..."
I loved the show and definitely agree with you about season 3. I joked with my wife that "they screwed up and made the sports show about sports." Too much focus on the game, not enough on the character development/themes they explored more in seasons 1 and 2
The Wire. Everyone always ranted and raved about it. And I was like "no way it's that good".
It's better.
Yessss, I am rewatching it right now and it's been long enough that I can't believe how good it is... again.
The Expanse, people keeps recommending it and I kept ignoring it thinking it was the Extant. I hope it gets picked up again.
Just finished the last season of For All Mankind yesterday and it can be seen as a sort of prequel to The Expanse.
Yeah, by Season 4 of FAM I was definitely thinking the same thing.
But also, very, very good show in its own right.
The actor who played Alex Kamal was fired for being a creep I think, so I doubt it'll come back. But there are more books to enjoy on wich the series ist bases.
They made a season without him. For the last three books they could just recast everyone, they're set 30 years after what was covered by the show.
Well they killed off Alex in the TV version. And he honestly doesn't have a particular big role in the final arc. So they could just give his little arc with his family to someone else.
This for sure.
I kept putting it off, then watched it all in one go when I finally managed to get through the 1 and 2nd episodes i think.
Yes! God this show is underrated. They got bit by the "oh look it's another Mad Men" stamp in season 1, but then the show pivots in season 2/3 and becomes something unique and special. And then I spent season 4 with a tissue box nearby. One of my favourite shows of all time.
I love Moon! Such a fantastic sci-fi movie. I always suggest that one to folks looking to watch one.
It is genuinely unreasonable how good Arcane is.
I went in thinking OK, this is an animated show based on League of Legends, it's gonna suck but at least the fight scenes will be fun, right?
Reader, I cried. You could teach classes on how good the writing in this show is. The last half hour of season one is, without question, one of the most perfect scenes in television history. A flawless masterclass in character development and believable conflict, paired with note perfect editing and some of the best animation you'll find outside of a Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon movie.
This show is based on a god damn MOBA. It had absolutely no right going this damn hard and I fucking love them for it.
And the soundtrack! Definitely among the best of the best. That's actually how I got into it - I was listening to a lot of Bones UK ever since Pretty Waste was featured in Pistol Whip and I absolutely loved Dirty Little Animals. From there I started listening to the whole OST and after a week or two I decided it's time to give the series itself a chance. I was blown away.
Speaking of, it's also pretty unreasonable how much awesome music is there around LoL. I was already a fan of KDA thanks to Beat Saber (what is it with VR games getting me into LoL music?), and turns out there's a ton of amazing music just because.
Yeah I went into it completely blind. Never played LoL but the animation style looked cool, so I'll just check an episode for the animation.
And damn it was a well written. The only flaws were scenes where suddenly a dude has a hammer weapon, and it was like "where did that come from... oh yeah this is based on a video game so that's probably his signature weapon in the game." So they had to put it in there. But there were only a couple of things like that and it's a really minor nitpick. And we can't expect them to make LoL show without throwing a few bones to LoL fans, right?
Yeah it really doesn't make sense how good that show is.
Yeah, they had to get in the obligatory scene of Jayce using the hammer just to keep up the pretence that this was in any way connected to LoL. Ditto Vi popping the bubble shield, IIRC.
On the other hand, the way they incorporated Jinx's ult? Oh my God. Chef's kiss. Flawless.
Arcane was such a an amazing show. Both because it was amazing on its own and because it made me go so crazy over show from a video game I care nothing for.
I've played 2 games of LOL in my life and I still loved Arcane to death. Season 2 can't come fast enough.
Better call Saul. I avoided it at first but then dared myself to watch it when Netflix was getting real skimp on its shows. Loved it.
It's better than the original because Breaking Bad wandered around a lot [remember the shoplifting arc that never developed]
This one was laser focused from the start.
I finally finished the last season in Jan. It was very satisfying and gave my heart a few scenes to freak out about. Knowing who we haven't seen in BB and that this was the last season, I was concerned about some of the characters. I think that's why I ended up taking a break between the 2nd to the last and last season.
Honestly, yes. It took me a minute to realize who you meant. Hah. That was one of the check your pulse moments. A lot of people got some wrong, but I guess that's the price of doing business. I was happy with the last few episodes of tying up story lines.
[spoilers]
What you realize is that he knows that Mike is out there, watching.
He's putting on the performance of his life.
Also, the two 'girl friends' were hllarious.
I'm with ya. I loved BB. Thought, nah, Saul was annoying as fuck. Then it happened. Watched and got pulled in. It's good stuff.
Battlestar Galactica. I sort of knew about it in a vague sense and once I finally watched it was pretty impressed
I recently saw a few scenes again and realised I had forgotten how good it was. All because of the deeply disappointing ending.
I rewatch the whole thing once a year or so. Thats my favorite episode by far. Walter has one of my favorite arcs of any character in TV. Olivia isn't far behind.
Yeah it took me a season and a half to warm up to her, but she really grows on you. And Fauxlivia is absolutely fantastic, really great to see Anna Torv's range!
After a LONG stretch of mediocre Star Wars content, I was burnt out on the franchise and had pretty much tuned out from new releases cuz they all sucked.
...saw people rave on and on about Andor, finally dove in expecting it to be more of the same half-assed shit we'd been getting for years leading up to it.
IT IS SO FUCKING GOOD!
Like holy shit, it felt so good to actually enjoy SW content again!
Breaking Bad. I heard I'm not the only one who started watching it and gave up after the first 2 or 3 episodes that were just setting the scene at a fairly slow (boring) pace. Someone had to convince me to push through them because it gets so much better. It does.
Better Call Saul is also spectacular. In fact, I might go so far as to claim it's better than BB...
I might go so far as to claim it's better than BB...
You would not be alone in that assessment. Lots of us agree. It is absolutely the better show.
I will be the dissenting voice then. Knowing what it is, I started watching it, and watched all the way to something like mid-second season. But then I just stopped and didn't really miss it.
BB for me was one of those "ok, last episode... ... ... OK, now really last episode then bed... ... ... OK, I know I have to wake up in 5 hours, so now really, REALLY last episode then bed." And so on.
BCS wasn't like that to me at all.
In my opinion it is the best written show in history. It has a succinct arc and every character is there on that arc for a reason. It ended when it should and kept true to the story the entire time.
I had a chance to read the pilot pitch script for Breaking Bad and it was one of the best I have ever read. Was the reason I started watching the show in the first place.
Dark on Netflix. I had started it once and gave up after 2 episodes, but came back years later and finished it. It’s now one of my all time favorite time travel stories. Lots of big, cascading mysteries kind of like Lost, but the ending was so satisfying!
Oh man. I loved it. The complexity made me feel smart and I absolutely loved how everything tied together in the end. At one point I was certain they had over convoluted the story and there was no way they were going to make it coherent again, but I was wrong.
You both might want to check out 1899.
Same production company and one of the main character actors is from Dark.
Should feel familiar even if you dont like it as much.
DUDE! You, me and literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON I know that watched it, bailed after an episode or two, but every one of us came back to it and all were blown away. So weird.
I feel like that show is more of a reminder of how good Alan Tudyk is. That show might be pretty mediocre without him running point.
Seconding this one. I went into it knowing absolutely nothing about the show, except the name of one of the actors, and boy did it pay off.
I'm really anal about spoilers, to the point where I consider even trailers to be spoilers. This has resulted in watching a lot of shitty stuff (dishonorable mention: Valhalla Rising), but now and then it results in pure unadulterated surprise and enjoyment.
Other shows and movies I liked after going into them completely blind:
The Prestige
Chernobyl (although basic history knowledge had already spiled the plot for me)
The 4400 (highly underrated)
Breaking Bad (recommended by a coworker who was scarce on details)
EDIT: Moon
Have you seen Cabin in the Woods? It's also one that is best seen with no idea what it is. And it is amazing.
If you like Alan Tudyk and are okay with mild horror, Tucker and Dale vs. Evil is one that I loved going into without any spoilers
You convinced me to stop reading your comment after "and boy did it pay off" and add it to my queue.
I'll come back and finish reading your comment after I've finished the show (so far).