Disney says it will crack down on password sharing, following Netflix’s lead

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I know we all PW share, but I have no moral argument why we should be able to PW share. Never understood why so many people get pissed off about these crackdowns. Good TV is kind of expensive to make.

Edit: in this thread, people that don't understand the economics of TV and media.

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chrisphero

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It’s the same as with youtube premium - do I need another music service? No, I just don’t want to have no ads (I don’t have it, just an example).

They just bloat up the package with stuff, so it looks like it’s much and is of “value”, when you are actually paying for a lot of stuff you don’t want/need… but of course they charge you for all of it.

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chrisphero

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Wow… I really wasn’t aware of Joe Rogan and his podcast…

How is Youtube Music?

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chrisphero

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Good to know, thanks!

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Because the subscription is for the household.

MyNameIsIgglePiggle

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Nah fuck that. I paid for 4 screens so 4 people could use it. They took away my ability to give it to 4 people so Instead of reducing my service back to 1 screen I just didn't need Netflix anymore.

My elderly in-laws will never sign up for it, so Netflix lost it all and gained nothing.

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Pricing is an aggregate use case for scale. Generally you don't want to have an overwhelming number of combos in your rate a price cards. It creates hard to market pricing and confusion for customers. And it causes a lot of challenges and confusion when pricing needs to change. So you offer a finite number of tiers that on aggregate cover the true cost and margin of profit needed. I think what most folks dont realize is a lot of streaming services currently operate a loss because they have to be so competitively priced. And cord cutting on cable where TV companies could rely on bundles puts streaming services in a direct to consumer model in a vice grip of pressure.

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If they operate at a loss that's their problem not mine!

And if they then lose customers by increasing the price, or limiting the service that's part of the game.

I have no sympathy for the media companies, they have always been grabbing money and overpricing everything.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-cuts-streaming-losses-resurgent-parks-boost-results-2023-05-10/

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That's fine. Cancel your subscription. But Disney+ operates at a loss. A way to cut that loss is get more subscribers and or increase cost. I imagine they are going to be calling the bluff to see which of the PW sharers actually cancel vs those that stay and end up with converting recipients of sharers as new customers. But it's naive to say that these companies, which I agree don't deserve a lot of sympathy, are struggling to figure out how to operate a profitable streaming business. But folks want to have there cake and eat it too, don't pay for the service but have unfettered access to the content.

A price increase and reduced marketing expenses helped improve the performance of Disney's streaming unit from January through March. The division ended the quarter with an operating loss of $659 million, compared with $1.1 billion in the prior quarter.

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I suspect they operate at a loss to increase their market share, and that Disney as a whole still is quite profitable.

And then we are back to the streaming providers saying "this sharing business must stop", while they constantly move shows around to ensure you need all services and end up paying more than a cable subscription for streaming.

Yep media companies as we know them best.

Redditiscancer789

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Well let me break out a tiny violin for them then, it's not like they have a monopoly on a huge number of IPs...oh wait...hmmm guess they do actually huh maybe they shouldn't of spent all that money acquiring all those studios if it isn't actually making them money. But you know I think the world's largest media company can afford to run their streaming service at a loss.

t0lo

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That argument would work if most of the media companies profits went to the people who worked on the show and not billionaire executives

ComfortablyGlum

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1- If I'm paying to stream on more than 1 TV, I should get to choose which tv.

2- Disney makes billions, if not trillions, of dollars a year... their tv sucks.

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Streaming only makes sense financially when a household can share one account, if they start forcing people to have an account per device or per person they will end up losing customers.

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A household can share one account. How many households honestly run into the concurrent device limit?

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It's very easy when the limit is 1.

mojo

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They making enough money bro. They have more then enough profit margin from one subscription to make all their shitty originals.