Further proof that Tankie is just the liberal version of "SJW" or "Woke"; a meaningless buzzword to describe anything left of them.
this is the kind of take you get from people who literally never leave the internet. a man doing an extreme act of self-sacrifice for a cause he believed in (and a cause that is plainly correct)? to the average person he's a hero, but to the internet-addled liberal he's a mentally ill tankie
The only time Christ used violence was against money changers, it's just the biblically correct position
I mean, non-theology pilled christians can't easily answer you how self immolation for your truth is different from praying in the whatever garden before going to be crucified. Jesus knew he would die, he was afraid and he still did it, difference is negligible
In the US they tend to be so indoctrinated on the ideology of rugged individualism (owe nothing to society, thus owed nothing) that concepts like martyrdom are just meaningless words they read in religious text. Extremely ironic because it's a concept that is near universal to all religions.
You forgot about capitalist, supply side American Jesus comrade! You can see him on the billboards alongside the highways. A tall, bearded, long haired white guy who helped build the president's estate! Both the motive and the conscience of the sinner due to God's all knowing nature! The force behind the army and the alt right! Infinitely kind is his allowance for everyone to participate in capitalism!
you must have missed the posts from hexbear dot net calling him a lib, not just the internet-addled liberal has terrible takes
Friendly reminder that this is how they would justify any of our murders. Super cool not mainlining American propganda makes you a persona non grata to the libs.
yep. just imagining the media discourse on me if I was randomly in the news. All the hogs would be cheering for my death
I've always had this feeling that if I died for any infamy-producing reason they would track down someone from a job a worked at a long time ago who would say that I was a lazy POS and then everyone would assume that that's the reason I was a socialist.
Jokes on them, if they did that to me it would cause ADHD theory to fully mainstream
I kind of hope that seeing this discourse play out in real time will make some of the self-proclaimed anarchists&leftists who love to call others tankies realize where their favourite left-bashing term comes from and how it gets utilized.
Tankie has been used against anti-imperialist anarchists and demsocs for years, if they still haven't caught on to it it's unlikely they'll realize now.
in fact, the main purpose of the pejorative is to separate and filter the anti-imperialists from the chauvinists, and protect the chauvinist majority from the ideas of the anti-imperialists
We can hope, but it never did that before on a big scale, terms like "Stalinists" or "Tankies" are used by the western anarchists and ultras as a way to appeal to liberals and succdems that they are the "good" commies that respect the nonviolence, civility in discourse, marketplace of ideas and other white supremacy fairy tales, and not those "evil" commies that actually have any successes against the liberals and succdems.
Which predictably falls on deaf ears because neither libs nor succdems care in the slightest, even "good" commie is a commie and will get into the camp at next purge because the only thing that matters is the treat flow provided by imperialism.
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right winger politics is both a real thing that does exist and just pure fucking vibes
Most people don't have a coherent ideology.
I think there's a lot of anti-tankie radlibs who are just vaushites and will never be anything but vaushites. But a bunch of them are likely newbie leftists who are still being radicalized. They're noticing that capitalism is completely out of control, but they've been propagandized so hard their entire lives that they still have major "China bad"/"Russia bad"/"NATO good" brainworms and those take time to get rid of. This is likely a tipping point for a few of them, where they realize that the anti-tankie crowd doesn't actually share their ideals and doesn't actually want the world to become more equal, which can lead them to question their current world view further and slowly hammer away at those brainworms.
What Is happening in Gaza is a genocide and must be condemned in the strongest terms, and NATO and Western coalitions must do whatever is necessary to destroy the Arab pirates attempting to end this genocide, I say while I jerk off to a picture of an AI created anime horse.
I remember that they had to pin posts denouncing racism and transphobia because the sub attracted right wingers who would post some random black liberal and seethe over the tankie DEI corporations in Silicon Valley
iirc that was r/EnoughCommieSpam which has had to make multiple separate threads for praise of fascist politicians, antisemitism, transphobia, racism, nazism, etcetera but r/tankiejerk has had to make threads about how "anti-white racism" is a fascist dog whistle, to stop calling Corbyn a tankie bcs it makes them look bad and that the US is bad actually
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Sectarianism has been solved. The left has been unified. We shall not make excuses for the terror.
Sudden urge to go check on the 196 paedophiles and see how they're handling the sacrifice of Aaron Bushnell
There is not a single blip about it, they're too busy posting unfunny garbage and chaser memes.
Edit: Looks like there was a single thread that didn't get much traction. The sub is not as political as it used to be (unless there's a chance to be sectarian against 'tankies') so that's to be expected.
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I heard Maoism called "anarcho-stalinism" once, and that low key kinda fucks hard, actually.
as an ML who through circumstance has largely organized with anarchists for real world praxis in my area... yeah, real anarchists are indistinguishable from tankies to a lib. my anarchist comrades have questions about china (none really about vietnam/cuba, they read news) and they are largely fair and the ones that are misdirected they trust me to explain. left unity is entirely possible, our differences are not irreconcilable. while I believe that a revolution which lasts must necessarily create a dictatorship of the proletariat to correct the developmental course, the anarchist expression must persist in its nonviolent form as a conscience and reminder that a stateless and classless society is our ultimate goal
talked about this in a few grill streams. Doing actual work builds solidarity and brings people of different politics together, while bickering online does exactly the opposite.
I'm an anarchist and I would organize with MLs any day. It's about moving forward, not just in my super particular anarchist way. If that way is through MLism then that's the way I go. I support China/Cuba/etc because it's simply a better direction than other states, and definitely more aligned in my view. Sure not optimal in my eyes but I'd rather work towards that than yell incessantly at everyone and accomplish nothing.
when the revolution comes we will need special places where some people have to be educated in order to rethink some of their perceptions about the world, a re-education, if you will
also, these places should be comfortable and inviting, open spaces, perhaps like a camp? I haven't worked out the details yet
Calling anyone left wing an Anarchist was the “Tankie” of the 19th and early 20th century. We’ve just come full circle.
In South Africa "anarchist" is still way more of a slur than communist or Marxist lol. Political parties regularly make "anarchy" into a boogeyman.
We should start calling random democrats who are criticizing Biden “Tankies” even if they’re 60 year old grandmas in Virginia
The guy did a pretty much objectively brave and noble self-sacrifice in protest of a genocide our nation is arming, but his posts, man! His posts!
Also this is a strong piece of evidence for the definition of tankie as "traitor to the US / The West."
Also this is a strong piece of evidence for the definition of tankie as "traitor to the US / The West."
In current day online discourse that's exactly what it's used for.
The guy did a pretty much objectively brave and noble self-sacrifice in protest of a genocide our nation is arming
I'm glad you think the same because everyone I've talked to has had shitty things to say about it
irl irl irl. I went to a vigil for Bushnell with like a hundred people today and it was really nice
Yeah I was talking IRL. I tried to talk to this ex Navy guy I work with who is kind of an anti-commie dipshit but also hates some of the right aspects of capitalism and is nice enough to do shit like bring me a fucking flag from the DDR but unfortunately his only response was to go "what a freak" and focus on how mentally ill the guy must have been. Then I tried to talk to a comrade about it and it was just more of this "what a fucking waste so fucking stupid he should have fragged a CO" type shit. Like, fuck.
Oh no! How could this have happened? Brb gonna go disavow all my anarchist friends over the support of relevant and contemporary Soviet Leader Iosif Steelin.