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What To Know About South Africa’s ‘Kill The Boer’ Chant

What To Know About South Africa’s ‘Kill The Boer’ Chant—As Elon Musk Sounds Alarm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/08/04/what-to-know-about-south-africas-kill-the-boer-chant-as-elon-musk-sounds-alarm/?sh=200cbd5a58e0

Twitter owner Elon Musk, who was born in South Africa as part of its minority white population, claimed the song promotes violence against white farmers.

Apparently not all are welcome in the so called "Rainbow Nation"

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InvertedParallax

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I agree?

It made sense under apartheid but now it would be like saying "Kill the Japs!" In San Francisco or saying "We're going to make Charlie pay!" while talking about some immigrants from Vietnam.

You gotta tone down your shit once you've won, otherwise you're kind of walking in to a crime against humanity.

HowRu68

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InvertedParallax

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubul%27_ibhunu?wprov=sfla1

It's complicated, again it's like saying "Kill the Japs!" Or "Kill the Bosch!" During ww2.

HowRu68

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It's complicated, again it's like saying "Kill the Japs!" Or "Kill the Bosch!" During ww2.

Yeah, I know what" boers" mean, so I got the examples . But I didn't know the song existed, so tnx for the link!

Tbh " Killing " this or that group is just not ok, especially when it's a rallying political song.

Just the very existence; it is just too weird to read about in this day and age.

PS: I also don't get discrimination because of whatever color. I mean, I do get that people differentiate , which is something completely" human", imo.

For example, when I walk on the paveway someplace and I see some sketchy ppl walking towards me (no matter the color) , and they feel wrong to me, I do cross the street to the other side.

InvertedParallax

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I'm willing to give them some room when they were under apartheid, that's a monstrous system and you do what you gotta.

But, they won, everybody needs to be human again.

HowRu68

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But, they won, everybody needs to be human again.

Well, I guess that's the whole context here. It's something that's happening today .

InvertedParallax

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Exactly, it's just wrong now, there's no defense other than "We used to sing about slitting your throats in your sleep when you kept us as slaves, why can't we now?"

SuddenDownpour

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Note that the EFF is a minority party that is nowhere close to getting the government. Mandela's party, the African National Congress, is nowhere the same at all. Don't let idiots conflate the two.

Some important distinctions that must be made:

Resisting active colonization is a fair goal, but these people aren't calling for the expulsion of people who consciously made the decision to invade their country, but for the ethnic cleansing of the descendants of those colonizers too, which doesn't make it any less of a call for genocide.

Reclaiming reparations and economic justice is fair. You can do it by investigating crimes committed during apartheid and finding out which wealth comes from taking advantage of an unfair economic framework based on exploitation and racism. If you go through the route of claiming "all white people in South Africa are colonizers and therefore may be stripped of property", the logical conclusion is that a poor white dumbfuck who was born after Mandela's rise to power, didn't get an inheritance of some sort, but worked hard and bought a small plot of land should receive the same treatment as Elon Musk's father, which is an insane take and not based on a desire of economic justice, but on identitarian, racist lines.