Open link in next tab
Just a moment...
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/04/biden-south-carolina-primary-win-results
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/04/biden-south-carolina-primary-win-results
I feel a smidge bad for Phillips. Very successful businessman and an actual politician, but can't even beat Williamson.
He's one of the richest congressmen though, so I think he'll be ok.
Nah, if he feels bad it's a good thing. Just the worst sort of Democrat who happens to be right that Biden is too damn old, but has no other redeeming qualities.
Wealth isn't a disqualifier to being a good person.
There seems to be some things we could examine about his character, as another commenter pointed out, but whether someone has money or not has nothing to do with my opinion on people.
I just felt it would be frustrating to be an actual politician and getting less votes than a guru.
Unfortunately, it kind of is in general.
Rich people are generally assholes
That depends on whether you think a good businessman is someone that can cut costs and increase results or someone that can generate profit.
Cut costs and increase results like those politicians who made concrete and rebar standard materials for bridges? The bridges that are now in disrepair all over the USA due to the short lifespan of the product? Nah, screw that.
If they've got a law degree, sure. They're an artist? Absolutely. Engineers? Fuck Yeah! They've got degrees in statistics and finance? BANGER. They're a "Businessman?" NEED NOT APPLY.
I don't think it's the fault of the designer or original leadership that the people that followed them didn't actually do what they were supposed to...
You could build a bridge that will last fifty years with no maintenance, or 100 years with proper maintenance, is it a bad bridge because in seventy years with no maintenance it's falling apart?
Or is it just that your successors didn't do their jobs, aka, get results?
Concrete and Rebar fails in less than 20 years because the cheapest most widely available rebar is iron, which rusts rapidly once the surface of the concrete cracks.
Idk who's telling you this but they're lying, probably because they're skimming the maintenance budget and then gaslighting you about why it's falling apart.
The only way to maintain those structures are to rebuild them in segments, which is admittedly easy to do but in turn raises the cost over time.
For the record, there's 3,200,000 registered voters in South Carolina. Biden won with 116,266 votes tonight. He received 540,000 votes in 2020.
I doubt most of them even knew the primaries had already begun. My state's primaries are in a couple of months.
Most of us (even democrats) want to go vote in the Republican Caucasus in a few weeks. That’s what my family is planning on doing anyway. Voting in this primary is a waste of time, because Biden is going to get the DNC nomination, there is basically no point in voting right now.
Down the line, yes there is still a point voting in November, since we’ll be able to vote for local officials as well, even if SC will just vote into red for the 40th year in a row or whatever the actual stat is.
You should be aware that trying to poison the well like that is generally counterproductive.
The parties don't see "oh, secret Dems are trying to get a candidate they can stomach" they see "90% of the voters are registered as the other guys, don't bother"
262k in the 2020 primary, which is probably the most analogous comparison to the 116k.
I don't think either of them are in the race because they think they'll get more votes than the sitting president. Williamson is in to push ideology, Phillips is in because Biden is too old and might die.
They are both there to get delegates and won't. The only other thing they can do is damage Biden, and that too is a failure.
If having to run a primary is 'damaging' to a candidate, maybe they shouldn't be in politics. I would argue that Biden sending weapons to a genocidal country is infinitely more damaging to his re-election prospects.
There's way more issues I don't agree with Biden, but currently supplying weapons that are actively used for a genocide without preconditions is pretty bad compared to stuff like student loans or whatever.
From a purely electoral standpoint, he's basically lost Michigan because of this.
I'm sure all those Palestinians in Dearborn will forget all about how their family members got exterminated with American bombs come election time. Not to mention, Biden is doing his best to escalate things in the middle east, so I expect things to be worse, not better.
And again, he's losing people all over the place on other issues as well, and there's the senior moments as well. And of course there's breaking the election promise that he'd be a one term President.
Not possible for Biden to look good in the fight? Well I have bad news, he'll need to fight in the general election and his approval numbers are already trash...
LOL, what? People run for president for all kinds of reasons despite not having a chance. Did you even know who Marianne Williamson or Andrew Yang were four years ago? Pete Buttigieg went from being a town mayor to the Secretary of Transportation. Is this like, literally your first primary?
The only damage Biden needs to worry about in this primary is the inevitable passage of time bringing him closer and closer to death.
dean phillips isn't dropping out anytime soon. steve schmidt still has hundreds of thousands of dollars to grift off of him still.
btw the phillips campaign should tell you that all of that waxing moronic on and on steve schmidt did about saving democracy and protecting the country from trump was nothing but posturing for the msnbc liberals. if he actually cared about all of that, he would have told his client dean phillips to pack it up after NOBODY showed up for his coffee and conversation event in new hampshire.
Well, yes, but actually no.
How it works is the states doll out partisan delegates based on primary election outcomes and the person with the most at the end wins assuming it breaches a certain minimum threshold. Unfortunately SC appears to have an uncommon winner takes all approach so even though one of them earned enough to get one of the 55 delegates they were instead awarded to Biden.
Losing a single state isn't a nail in anybody's coffin, so they're no worse off now than before the DNC primary began, which is to say they've never really had much of a chance against the incumbent.
Unfortunately SC appears to have an uncommon winner takes all approach so even though one of them earned enough to get one of the 55 delegates they were instead awarded to Biden.
Are you sure about that? I don't remember any Democratic primary states doing winner take all. The allocation is different depending on the party. Republicans have a lot of states that work that way.
I'm just going by what I saw. 100% / 55 = 1.8% so by that logic one of the runner ups would have a delegate but for some reason it showed Biden had 55.
Delegates aren't awarded by simple percentage of vote. There are minimum amounts before you receive delegates.