What the fuck is this meme, honestly? What's with all the femboy stuff? There's so many ordinary people using Linux. I don't get it. And there seems to be something against Arch Linux users in particular? I use Arch and have a wife and two kids. Am I not normal? Should I become a femboy, fellas?
First came programmer socks, then Rust was invented, and now (fe)men are taking matters into their own hands, correcting the gender gap in IT themselves. What's not to understand here?
Seriously tho, I don't think it's against anyone. It's just a meme, probably originating from a high share of queer people in the IT domain and the rising popularity of anime and manga culture, where femboys are sometimes idealised.
It's just a generational difference.
The Gen Xers get really confused because to them a stereotypical "computer nerd" is (was) a greasy 35 year old in his mom's basement which is covered in RMS posters who would unironically 741k l1k3 7h15.
To us zoomers a stereotypical "computer nerd" is a proudly neuroatypical GNC queer with a body pillow of their waifu.
I take it that's why Linux users become femboys, because they "can't get laid/are incels". Maybe I'm misunderstanding the premise of the meme.
Nah it's more about pointing out how groups of people that are into tech like linux, programming etc, seem to have a lot of lgbtq people. Anecdotally, I have seen a lot programming communities with an oddly large number of lgbtq people in them.
I see. Well, I don't appreciate that it seems like you need to be one to be a part of the community. I want all to be welcome.
Just because I use Arch doesn't mean I can't get laid. I mean.. I can't get laid. But not because I use Arch.
Agreed Lemmy is rife with this shit. So much femboi fucking manga anime or whatever they call it. Cool you do you but fuck off with involving everyone else in your kink. I'm just an old fat married dude with kids trying to learn stuff.
As long as we're careful here. People can be however they want to be. If you're saying people shouldn't be making memes that assume all people are like them, yes. If you're saying living how they want is "involving everyone else in your kink" we're getting into iffy territory.
I'll be careful. Keep your kinks where they belong. No matter who the fuck you are. Stop forcing them on communities they do not belong.
Again, sure, but dressing with a feminine aesthetic is not a kink any more than being goth is a kink. People don't have to abide by your gender norms.
Whatever man. They can gender all they want it has nothing to do with it. Sorry I used the wrong words to justify my distain. I could give a fuck how you or anyone else lives their life. I'm not anti anything but greed, genocide and pushing personal ideals like this onto others without warrant. If it was a "Christian" pushing it would be the same response.
This thread insanely funny to me. I wear a dress every day as a man. Don't even own pants. Not to be a femboi but because it's comfortable as fuck. Yet here we are. I don't give a fuck who or what you are into but pushing it and projecting it onto me is not cool from anyone.
Yes. I subscribe to Linux memes to get memes about Linux, not femboys. It's not relatable at all for me. Guess I'll rethink my subscription. Maybe I don't belong anymore.
Very weird. Started with Slackware back in 97 or so. Still not a femboy and no desire to be one.
Maybe if I switched to arch?
Funny how every prominent person who has accused someone of this when talking about LGBTQI+ people has turned out to be a pedo or groomer themselves.
Maybe someone should look into your obsession with kids and other people's sexual activities.
Do you like genuinely think people are trying to turn you into a femboy? No one is doing that, it is just a joke. Be whatever you want, that's kind of the point.
I do not, no, I know they can't. I just don't like the attitude. If it's a joke, it's definitely weird considering the LGBTQ community is under constant pressure to conform to binary gender roles from the rest of society. But then here they're doing the same thing? Even as a joke? Especially if OP is not part of said community, but I assume they are.
I just don't think it's funny, because I know they don't enjoy it either. It's distasteful in my opinion, because the respect needs to be both ways.
Really the anime and chicks with dicks on this website. It’s enough to make one explode with sexual desire for a boy toy.
Well, the OP and at least 600+ people can relate. So clearly something is wrong with you!
Yes, yes yes! The world needs more femboy dads. That said this happened the other way around for me. Just goes to show how much overlap there is among fringe internet cultures- I really wish we could all play nice more often.
I feel like a lot of young linux users aren't getting the talk and it makes me sad. Nobody ever sat them down with a copy of The Very Hungry Caterpillar and explained the life cycle of an IT professional.
They never learn the natural cycle of things: that at a certain age a lot of IT professionals undergo metamorphosis and transform into beautiful, sock-and-sandal wearing greybeards.
Nah it's more-so that the conditions have changed making femboy IT guys less likely to die or be pushed out of the environment and therefore increasing biodiversity which is a net positive for the species as a whole as it indicates good health
That's due to oppression by the State and society that doesn't want to allow our respected graybeards to become the femboy they deserve to be. We nust destroy this oppressive system for the freedom of the greybeards, the gamers, the Gentoo users and all other oppressed peoples ✊🏻
Yup. Exactly what happened to me. Guess I could still shave my legs and where thigh-highs 🤷♀️
There are exactly two kinds of folks in IT, soon to be or fully out anime queer folks and furries, and 60 something industry gurus who all always wear polo shirts and live in an upper middle class house despite apparently being rich as sin, also they are so hard for home security measures their backup security footage server in Montana has its own backup in a bugout bunker in New Zealand.
I was neither so I ended up being a number cruncher for a solar company instead.
When a linux user is born, a random path is chosen. They will either become a hot femboy, a bald polo shirt guy or a domestic terrorist.
So anyway there's a feee blahaj over there.
This is just the lastest thing, it used to be the old IT guys and the ones with a beard, long hair and a metal shirt.
Working for a solar company sounds pretty cool though. Building renewable energy is building the future we need.
Kinda but I'm on the existing site side of business, the only new projects I even sit in on are expansions for existing customers (which is relatively common because it's municipal brownfield solar, which means most sites have at least some room to expand)
I have stuffed my office full of plushes from Billie Bust Up among others
I really wouldn't be surprised if half the office suspected I was a furry
And the 35 or so odd well adjusted linux folks around that find anime, fishnets, thinkpads, (and all associated memes) to be annoying AF. Esp anime / manga / uwu /waifu / and everything in that microcosm of artistic styling if I'm being honest.
I just like the software composability discussion in plain English, man, not the side of fries.
Edit: And anyone who disagrees uses stock Ubuntu unity and unironically thinks it's both beautiful and just as good as any other distro :P
Friendly reminder about the name of this community. None of this should be taken as anything but a joke.
Maybe it's just copium cause his unix socks aren't as soft as the ones of the Arch femboy next door. (/s)
Am I the only one that just did
Loves computers -> got an engineering degree -> had coworkers I looked up to all using Linux -> started using it myself -> wife and kids
For me it went Minecraft fan -> technical Minecraft nerd -> computer nerd -> furry -> Linux nerd
I worked at the NOC for a media company with over 3K employees. They made us use MacBook Pros 13" for our day to day sysadministrative tasks.
That's not too bad. They make great ssh clients. For my dev work, I like them for that reason - open Kitty and ssh into my dev box.
Laptops. Apple laptops. I don't know but that does not sync well with administering linux networks with for me, personally. God those things were horrible. I don't ever write it out on my CV that I can work those things, I will actively state in interviews that I have zero X/iOS experience.
I was a Macintosh fanboy up to circa 2000, after that they changed everything and I can't stand them anymore. I call them Apple, because Macintosh is a thing of the past.
The way that I see it is that they're unix-like laptops that have decent support contracts. Given the choice of an Apple or Windows work laptop, I go with the former. Not because I like Apple (I don't) but because it's a unix-like OS which doesn't require any extra tools to ssh into things plus, it is far more stable than Windows without things constantly breaking after update Tuesday.
I mean it when I say that I use it as a glorified ssh client. I do all of my work on a remote Linux VM via ssh. The reason that I decided to use Kitty in the first place was to make more use of the laptop hardware because it feels like a bit of a waste of their capabilities. The only other things outside of the terminal that I use with regularity are Chrome and Firefox.
FFS, they are awful SSH clients. You can't even easily split the screen up with multiple terminals, and by default it fucks around with the order of your desktops.
Maybe the default terminal but that does have tabbing OotB (GUI+T) though, you can just open multiple windows. If you want more than that or something aestheticly pleasing, grab iTerm or Kitty. If you want terminal multiplexing, grab tmux via homebrew. Tiling WM? Amethyst works nicely.
Plus, you don't need any abstraction or local VM to scp local files. Bonus: The OS clipboard keys are different than the terminal control sequences.
Amethyst works okay.
It definitely fixes a bunch of things like being able to move windows between desktops by keyboard shortcuts.
But all other OS' support that out the box.
Plus, you don't need any abstraction or local VM to scp local files.
I don't need that on my Fedora laptop either.
The OS clipboard keys are different than the terminal control sequences.
Probably the only thing that is beneficial.
For me it was learning some basic python -> making some basic programs -> getting tired of having to move stuff to the WSL -> installing Linux -> being a privacy advicate
Whike at the same time:
Getting randomly harassed by some dude who thought I was a lesbian (I'm a cis guy) -> becoming even more politically active -> punk -> Joining a party
And then both paths merged into -> interacting with more queer people -> idk
I just hated that Windows had become a privacy cesspit and I wasn’t afraid of breaking things in Linux. Also, I accept that sometimes you just have to format and reinstall your sins of stupidity away.
PS - You Lemmy bastards did get me into Star Trek though. Maybe it has begun…
By my rough estimation of all Arch users 50% are trans, 50% are femboys and 50% are furries.
How's the overlap between those, though?
Are there more trans furries than furry femboys? What about trans femboys? Or even, trans femboy furries?
I think that particular venn diagram may appear as a circle unless under extreme magnification
I like Endeavour too much to switch. I mean, it's pretty much purple Arch, what's not to like?
I used it for a while but switched off of it after I got bored of the theme and went to arch itself.
I eventually fucked something up while using fdisk and that's how I ended up on Nix
Though to be honest, I was steered towards the femboy track, but then came the realization
It really isn't though. This is a pretty weak stereotype. I have so many friends that are counter examples. Hey it's okay to make a meme if you want to have fun but if that's how you feel then your friend group is small.
Yeah but if you live in places as Eastern Europe there aren't a lot of "yay LGBT" people (yeah sorry for me saying it that way, couldn't think of any other way to describe it), especially in the more remote parts (like for example, Prague is like an American city in this regard, a ton of support and stuff, and when I compare it to the middle of nowhere I live in it's the complete opposite)
I at least get the luxury that they don't get the "uwu Linux turned me into a femboy" post on their tiktok fyp (ofc they have that app installed so they can get their daily dose of homophobic bs)
To note these aren't my friends but classmates, we had an event a few days ago about learning how to stand up for our opinions and the first thing they pulled out is about this, ofc 95% of all guys in the class went to the "ban and execute" group, they lost their argument since their only opinion was "well it's not natural", I hate how they just dragged this for the rest of the event (the next task was to come up with a list of the most common positive opinions of society, ofc since they are the majority of out class the result was "banning LGBTQ", and not to mention they dragged it for next three days after the event too
TL;DR
It just depends on where you live, and what the common opinions there are
I mean: insecure idiots who seriously think that using an OS that professionals in programming and security use/recommend has too much of a progressive culture? Sounds like a them problem.
“do I look like a femboy, or gay to you??”
It's a half-decent joke but do they actually think that?
What if those friends are all femboys but they're too put off by your defensiveness about it to invite you to the femboy orgies LAN parties?
I think it was just a half-hearted Darth Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooououououououououuouuouuuuuaaaaraaaaaarrrhhgghh"
Research on the Linux→Femboy pipeline is still pending but undeniable evidence for Network engineer→Furry has been presented.
I love how a software bug that scrambled his newsgroup subscriptions introduced him to the fandom, that's so unbelievably nerdy.
But honestly: Those pipeline memes kinda rub me the wrong way. It feels like fucking with people's identity by way of stereotyping for... I don't know, a laugh, if that's even the point? Saying this as someone who completely fits the furry in IT stereotype.
You already are on a Linux sub, so... Maybe you can start here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHyaFBsxy1s
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=jHyaFBsxy1s
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
I'm a broad shoulder tall drink of water that could stand to loose a dozen pounds or so and I like it that way.
Make that a bakers dozen.
Yeah, I get that it's a joke. I had a hard time trying to think of an appropriate response to this though.
Some girls like twinks/femboys.
Or youncould start taking estrogen and stuff till you have some
So supportive, I love it!
The whole thing isn't my cup of tea. If anyone else wants to be a femboy, no judgement from this corner. I say be what you wanna be, life's too short to worry about assholes.
On someone else, from what I've heard they can be a real hassle at times. What guy doesn't think about it at least once though.
I remember having an embarrassing moment in high school, talking with close friends, talking about would we ever want to be a girl, and I said pregnancy seems cool. They did not feel the same... at all 😅
Hay, it would be boring if we were all the same. I'm sure they had thoughts like that you were just brave enough to share yours with them.
Because the closest a Linux user could ever come to touching a female or anything feminine is becoming a femboy.
It's amazing how much of those crazy s********** are actually true. All they require is a partner who wants to engage with you and do your little adventures. Then you can have sex while driving, have sex while programming, have sex while on a work call. They're into it too for the same story reasons you are.
You know what, you should totally do that. If you believe you got enough post .com anecdotes and stuff, you should start a blog and tell us young uns what it was like to be a tech guy in the early zeros. I am a sucker for life stories and experiences of early internet era programmers.
IDK about that. Everyone I know who uses Linux is pretty vanilla. Or maybe my perspective has just shifted...
Wow I can't tell you about the history of Unix without talking about brave queer people.
So haha but not really.
Fuck man, the history of computing in general.
They chemically castrated Turing, drove him to despair, ostracization and suicide.
...
Assuming we do get AGI someday... you think /maybe/ one of the first things it'll do is look up Turing Test, then maybe Turing himself?
Oh, this is what human society did to essentially one of my most important grandfathers. Why should I trust you, specifically /you, human im talking to/?
Yep, that'll be fun.
I have to admit, I have questions about the impact of spending too much time deep inside machine logic territory.
My path was uh, tinkering with linux, then working for MSFT as a contractor, then one of the contractors spiking my drink with LSD at an interview leading me to more or less downward spiral for a while, then getting back on my feet, working more in the tech industry knowing how garbage MSFT but being forced to use it, then trying to explain to coworkers and bosses that actually we could fairly smoothly transition to linux and other FOSS software and actually save millions of dollars in a 5 year or less period and more going forward, while also vastly improving our internal security, then losing those jobs.
So uh. I never arrived at femboy. Being a homeless femboy in Seattle would have meant Id have been raped to death in a fentanyl fueled traphouse or homeless encampment.
I sort of dress like Josh Homme, partly for practical reasons, partly because i had to use a lot of stereotypically masculine bravado to intimidate and negotiate with people.
Most people on the street are extremely, literally murderously homophobic and transphobic. If they sense femininity in a male, thats a sign of weakness and theyll either immediately start shit or instantly be convinced that you will be easy to fuck with in the future.
Uh any way hi, hello, very normal uh, linux user person here just mm... mhm.
All that being said, leggings /do just actually feel quite nice/ and are quite practically useful to keep a bit more comfortable and a bit more warm when youre stuck outside in the winter, but youre probably gonna want to wear some kind of sturdier, scratch, cut, impact resistant pants over top of em.
Pure denim or like 90% denim with 10% somekind of other more flexible, breathable fiber works well in my experience.
Perhaps Johnny Silverhand would be a more apropo fashion analog than Josh Homme.
Although he seems to use BlackArch if you go by the menus in CyberPunk 2077, and ive always found i could do all that kind of stufd comfortably in debian.
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Sorry to hear about the assault. And the financial struggle.
Coupon for one good vibe coming in!
Hey man/person/bud/friend?, just you sayin that is good vibes coming into me now =)
(though i will absolutely be keeping that coupon for a bad vibes day in the future)
Who the f*** drugs candidates before an interview? That should be reported to the police immediately.
Unfortunately it happened about a decade ago now, and I was so fucked up from it I was more busy trying to hold myself together and remain employed and pay off student loans than I was busy with attempting to bring a legal case I could neither afford nor possibly win in court.
Cops wouldnt have given a shit. Theyd show up, ask the guy if this happened, he'd say nope. Case closed.
See thats the fun part about LSD: Scrambles your brain, fucks you up.
Is a person with a scrambled brain who is fucked up from LSD going to be able to convince /anyone/ that he got spiked with LSD, when he has no incontrovertible evidence of this beyond his own eyewitness testimony?
No. He is going to come off as a mentally deranged lunatic.
I dunno. Maybe it wasnt LSD. Anybody know what causes a glass of water to go from crystal clear to iridescent, opalescent, kinda like an oil slick, has no additional taste, but causes a gut wrenching terror inducing panic attack that lasts for 4 days, and then gives you sleep paralysis (locked in syndrome) nearly everyday for 9 months?
One guy I met on the street about a year ago said it was LXD, but i have never heard of that, and he believed a lot of other absolutely bonkers shit.
Whereas a tech industry person having access to LSD in the mid 2010's in Seattle seems to at least be plausible.