Here's why muslims are to blame for Trump's winThose darn muslims are just too antisemitic, they hate Biden because he stands with the Jews 😔
Should have bombed Iran
Didn't think we'd be getting to the DNC backed Muslim ban only 6 years(?) after Trump tried it
We really are becoming more efficient
The most obvious thing a year ago would be for the DNC to pick a new candidate and let Biden take the fall for starting WW3. I honestly don’t know what they are thinking by doing the unpopular thing yet still running Biden.
Either Biden is forcing it, or they are surprised that support for Israel would be this weak.
DNC staffers brainstorming fundraising email drafts as we speak
"We are now under one of the MOST TYRANNICAL leaders in WORLD HISTORY"
And they still get all the policy they wanted, and they get to shrug their shoulders and smugly say "guess you should've voted harder, kid".
Both of the parties are more comfortable being the opposition when they don't actually have to do anything and can collect donations while telling people they need to vote harder.
I always figured you can grift more when actually in power compared to fundraising like chumps in the offseason.
The amount that industry lobbyists will pay to get a government contract or whatever makes donations look petty.
But I have no sense of the actual numbers for any of this
The difference is, the lobbyists expect returns on their money. People getting emails about STOPPING TYRANNY are donating on a 100% vibes basis and will accept "shucks orange man stopped us" instead of concrete actions
Most political money doesn’t come from scared Pearl clutching Liberals, most of it comes from corporations and lobbies. Those corporations and lobbies buy favor with winners, not losers. Less seats and less power means less money.
I think the genocide in Palestine is hurting them more than they realized. And Ukraine - that’s become pretty unpopular but Biden keeps pushing forward.
But I think inflation has really been what’s hurting him the most. I hear about it a lot from apolitical folks I know IRL and they weren’t mentioning it a year ago. Biden’s little cheerleaders on Reddit can talk all day about how the rate of inflation might be going down, but damn near everyone knows they’re paying a lot more for things while their income hasn’t kept up.
Yes but if you remove the price of groceries, housing and gas then inflation is TOTALLY under control! 
: "What are you talking about? Have you seen the surge in the prices of my housing investment portfolio? Biden has been GREAT for shareholders! You've been investing in real estate, right?"
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I think they're just running on inertia. It seems to me that Dems have done the "means tested [insert popular policy]" or "vague and neglible motion toward [popular policy]" (Infrastructure bill for example) for so long that they've gotten used to less than bare minimum being enough. It seems as though popular sentiment has finally turned against that means tested bare minimum, and the dems dont understand it.
So they think the only reason Biden is losing is because they haven't educated voters on all the stuff Biden has done (looking at you, Some More News). Under that logic it wouldn't be smart to run someone other than biden - look at all the stuff he's done!
Every election they also triangulate their position to be whatever the republicans had last election - There's votes to be won there! At some point that moves them so far away from the leftist base that the dems gotten used to relying on and being to take for granted. At some point there isn't a logical argument for that leftist base for why they should vote for Dems instead of republicans. Biden ran on being the "harm reduction candidate" and that's not really visible. They used to have climate change to gesture towards, but we are now at the point where immediate action needs to be taken, but the Dems aren't willing. At that point it doesnt matter wether they "believe" in climate change or not, they've shown they do not care about it. Same goes for immigration policy and civil rights.
The Dems have gotten used to being able to ignore these sentiments, why would they change now? It is only now that the chickens are coming home to roost, why would we expect the Dems to be able to realise their predicament?
Their sole argument has been "we all know he sucks but he's the only option so you have to vote for him"
Introducing another option would just make it clear they were full of shit the entire time. Especially if they force in another shitlib everybody hates and try to say "actually this person you all despise is the ONLY possible option"
Did you tankies consider that every vote for Trump is actually a vote for Biden?
Biden is crushing it. 
Every vote for trump is a vote for fascism, and every vote for fascism is a vote for genocide ergo: every vote for trump is a vote for Biden checkmate liberals
Have Americans stopped to consider that everything is actually great and they're just stupid for not appreciating it? If you'll just look at this chart,
Maybe Biden will share that idea at his press conference tomorrow in Michigan. I'm sure it will be an even bigger hit with Arab-Americans.
"Are arab-americans REALLY Americans? Should we even bother polling them? Hell, why do we even let them vote?"
Yea I have a sneaking suspicion trying to take credit for an economy where nobody can afford groceries and then calling anybody who points that out an idiot might not work out like they hoped.
Saw this on Reddit earlier. They libs are calling it Russian propaganda. Then they say the demographics are off - so someone comes and shows the demographics are good - they run with the "demographics are bad" anyway.
Yet they quote polling like the gospels when a leftist candidate is doing badly. Funny how that works.
The best thing to do is agree it's Russian propaganda and accept that Russian propaganda (as in the propaganda alone) will destroy the United States and there is nothing that can be done. The propaganda is just too powerful. It worked in 2016 and now it worked again and we've being going oh so hard on fact checking but for some reason it's not working and the MSM just can't reach the common [peasant] worker to make them vote properly.
I went to the politics sub to try and find it, and the very top post was about how Biden was leading in the national poll as if that actually meant anything.
I'm still neutral on how this will go. Gut says Trump, but so many wacky things happen suddenly now that who knows. Some part of me still thinks Trump might go to jail or face some legal consequences. It's still very surprising that Colorado and New Hampshire knocked him off their ballots and now it's going to the supreme court. Also either of them might die or go infirm before November.
I hate living in historically interesting moments
It might actually be funnier if biden wins despite this kind of polling. Might get a redo for Jan 6
that's what I've been guessing might happen for a while. It would be hilarious. It would be the first time that would happen in a Democrat's favor (except if you count 1824, but I don't).
This is the actual funniest option but would require an almost complete 180 on who virtually every state votes for.
Getting 6 electoral voters because you got a combined 12 votes in the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana is why republicans always do better in EC than popular votes.
How has he wriggled out of his charges? I remember even the chapos and people on here were saying there's a good chance he won't be able to wriggle out of it this time.
He hasn't yet, he's still got a ton of trials upcoming. He recently had to pay $83 million in a defamation lawsuit. He's still awaiting trial for several more serious indictments. These trials are taking forever because A) It's complicated document crimes B) it's unprecedented to put a former president under this much legal squeeze and C) The court systems bow to money by dragging stuff out as long as possible until no one cares anymore.
He's indicted for something like 90 felony counts, mostly related to Byzantine laws about how to handle documents or how to talk on the phone. I honestly don't understand most of it. But the trials haven't started yet. Who knows what judges will say in the next few months
He's a rich white republican.
That's literally it.
Ollie North has a gig at fox news that isn't broadcast from a cell. They don't actually face consequences.
I have no idea what's going to happen except that trump will never ever face any legal consequences.
That much I am absolutely certain of.
Partially because I've been saying that for a decade at this point and have been right every time despite literally thousands of people telling me he was two weeks from jail for that entire decade.
I don't believe they'll throw him in jail, but they might order him to surrender property or money or something. He's been ordered to pay fines and damages before. That's the most I could imagine.
Yea he's been ordered to pay fines and then has either refused or grifted it from his supporters.
Honestly you're probably going to be right. Trump's going to die peacefully in his bed after nothing ever happens to him. He's had the most blessed life so I don't see it stopping now.
Kissinger recently passed away peacefully at the age of 116 surrounded by loving family members.
It's not a just world.
If Trump becomes the first person to be elected from a jail cell, I will work the rest of my life to learn necromancy and bring my boy Debs back from the grave so he can exact vengeance.
You're unironically right. War pretty much always boosts a US president's popularity. It's how Bush Jr got re elected after he stole the first election. The hogs love war. Biden bombing Iran, Yemen, or "Iranian proxies" (as American propaganda describes any group in the Middle East opposed to US interests) would boost his popularity.
It doesn't seem to be as much the case nowadays. If anything, liberals will vote for a war president regardless of party affiliation while conservatives vote consistently with their guy declaring war. They think Biden and the Dems are weak even after everything they've done so far. I don't think anything will really change that.
Well Trump didn't do a traditional reelection war and lost. Biden did two, but halfassed so the war electorate is grumbling.
An old guy wanders into a Subway shop with a guy in a suit and shades behind him. The guy talks to his wrist. The old guy has a couple minders with him too but they can't stop him from marching up to the counter to complain in a loud voice.
"I did another genocide. When do I get a free sub?"
"Every third genocide is free, sir. Free to you that is." (glances nervously under the counter)
Watching any American electoral thing is like watching the little nukes fly on doomsday simulations.
Libs are in copium mode already. The few I talked to about this have come back with several responses:
-"too early, people aren't paying attention and just looking to blame Biden"
-"Democrats are winning elections elsewhere"
-"Trump may be winning in the primaries, but he's not in the spotlight and 15% of Republicans won't vote for him"
-"if Trump gets charged that will spotlight his crimes"
Israel hates every US politician despite the US constantly giving them blank checks. Nothing new.
I'd have a hard time not just immediatly telling someone that gullible to give me a thousand dollars and I'll double it overnight.
I'm already beginning to see the "awww geez, we have to vote for Biden" stuff from certain YouTube personalities. Personalities who've until now rightfully roasted Genocide Joe.
Oh jesus you just reminded me the libs are going to be trotting out that insufferabe Bo Burnham song again that makes me feel like I'm going to black out and [redacted]
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Yep. 
is already warming up quick. A lot of donkey-brained liberals have forgotten to even give a head nod to the fact that the primaries have just begun and this is the time they tell us it's supposedly okay to say we're not voting for their favorite fascist.
Can't wait for liberals to claim the election was stolen, do a shitty protest in the capital, get murdered by cops, and complete their transformation into literal Blue MAGA.
get murdered by cops,
Then they'll complain that radical leftists somehow made the cops kill people.
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well yeah, the wretched left made those cops kill the good liberals because the villainous scummy left wouldn't vote for jobe iden 
Wait isn't that the plan? My private line to our Chinese HQ has been blowing up with Xi Jinping repeating "Mobilize the pigs" ad nauseum.
ACAB and the prejudiced demonisation of all police, especially by BLM, made the police force less culturally acceptable and appealing to POC. That's why the police are so reactionary and shot a prominent substack author. More POC police, instead of Trumpets, would have descalated the situation with an inspirational speech about our better angels. Leftists and anti-police POC have once again posoined the well, leading to the death of an innocent poet and anti-authoritarian theatre critic who will never be forgotten. R.I.P, Reagan Clairvoyance-Virtue.
I mean, they did that already except getting murdered by cops. The protests weren't as funny and not fully centered on the election being stolen. But I made a lot of Liberals mad December 2020 when I pointed out that due to Russiagate, Liberals were already saying that the election results were illegitimate and asking for faithless electors in the Electoral College or some other procedural bullshit to stop Trump taking office. Up until Jan. 6, the stop the steal people were a perfect mirror image of Russiagate Libs.
I think Biden polling 8%+ behind in swing states that he won four years ago is meaningful. It's not so decisive that it means Trump is absolutely going to win, but it's definitely not a good sign for the Dems.
It does give an indication of who'd win if the election were held right now, but it's only so reliable. Right up till the last minute in 2016 the polls had Hillary far ahead of Trump, but we know how that turned out. Still, that year was somewhat of an outlier and they're usually not that far off. Really it depends on the methodology of the individual poll, inherent biases, sample sizes, demographics, etc.
These things can also be deliberately manipulated by pollsters to give the results they want.
Up until the last minute? Even exit polling in numerous states were far different from the actual tallies, enough that the results were expected the be the opposite based on that data the day of election.
Depends, when the tea leaves are correct, they matter. But when they are incorrect, they do not matter.
An aggregate of several polls taken around the same (more or less) timeframe can certainly give a pretty realistic picture of how it's looking out there for a certain candidate. You shouldn't base any conclusions around one single poll
I think comparing the same polls between months can have some useful info, assuming nothing else has been changed in bad faith by the pollster (hard assumption once you've seen through the fake puppet dance of electoralism and how all of the institutions are really only for bourgeois self-defense)
Conversation I had with an older black friend:
- Trump will not save Gaza either.
- The United States was founded on genocide, slavery and is evil by definition.
- It is in the interest of the oligarchy to have apathetic voters.
- Third-Party candidates are a waste of time.
- Biden is the lesser of both evils.
- It is a moral responsibility to vote for Biden.
I'm not sure how to respond, because I like the guy, but something about older Black boomers defending the Democratic Party makes for difficult conversations.
A vote for today's foreign genocides, is a vote for tomorrow's domestic camps
Greater or lesser, I'm not selling my soul to any devil
It is in the interest of the oligarchy to have apathetic voters.
You respond to this person by pointing out that lesser of two evilism creates a scenario where the Democrats constantly abandon their constituents and their political bases which generates apathetic voters on a far bigger scale. we don't have a moral imperative, the party has the moral imperative to stop doing this to win us back.
then you change the conversation about how electoral politics are most changeable on a local and state level bc let's be real, whether or not Biden is worse than Trump doesn't matter because an absolute ghoul will be in charge either way.
This is what I have been trying to say to Hexbears for a while.
The electoral system is designed to punish - if you don’t vote for Biden, you get someone even worse. So if you’re a minority you have no choice but to vote for Biden, no matter what you think of him.
People who believe that they can withhold their votes to hold the Democrats accountable or think this will somehow force the Democrats to offer better terms are the TRUE BELIEVERS of electoralism.
The Democrats never cared for your votes, they will never offer you treats in exchange for your votes, they will however punish you (and all the white liberals who are least affected by Trump’s material policies will get the satisfaction of scolding you for the next 4 years) if you don’t vote for them.
imo this simplifies things; options:
- The democrats do not care about your vote. Cool, I will not vote for them then.
- The democrats do care about your vote, and will change their behavior in response to it being withheld; cool, I will not vote for them then.
It really depends on whether you think accelerationism will build the extra-legislative power structure better, or delaying the inevitable will. There is no hope for electoralism, but there is an argument for whether it is worth delaying it while we build up our strengths.
There is at least media support for the resistance aesthetic while the republicans are in power. With Biden libs cheered on crushing the rail strike among many other things they would have been out in the streets about with Trump. If you want to build extra-legislature power I think the answer is clear.
So if you’re a minority you have no choice but to vote for Biden, no matter what you think of him.
Biden has deported more people than Trump, he's given the police more funding than Trump, he's started more wars than Trump, we've lost more of our collective rights under him than under Trump, Biden has unironically been the horror that minorities like me expected to see under the first Trump term, instead Trump despite being a nazi, didn't even top the awfulness of the Bush admin
Honestly I don't understand how mfs are still talking about harm reduction at this late date, the calculus is very simple and it does not involve holding dems "accountable" or whatever, it's very simple; under a Trump admin the American left organizes better and has more room to breath, because liberals are forced to concentrate on Trump and have to offer symbolic opposition to the reigning regime, which gives us space to grow
It's no accident the so-called "New American Left" (which is now DEAD) sprang to life in 2016, until it was obliterated by Bernie's capitulation to Biden in 2020, and this isn't an accelerationist position, because under my rubric the dems are the accelerationists, while the empowered left under a Republican admin acts more effectively as a doorstop precisely because the dems can't sacrifice the kayfabe to fully join the Republicans
One way or another the western "left" is gonna have to take a principled stand against the liberals, before we end up in the means-tested internment camp stage of American history
But to be real it's all mute anyway, Biden will win, precisely because the real-world suffering of minorities and people in the global south does not matter to Americans who vote. Biden is simply better for capital, and the American left is still dead
Honestly I don't understand how mfs are still talking about harm reduction at this late date, the calculus is very simple and it does not involve holding dems "accountable" or whatever, it's very simple; under a Trump admin the American left organizes better and has more room to breath, because liberals are forced to concentrate on Trump and have to offer symbolic opposition to the reigning regime, which gives us space to grow
Yeah. 100%.
And this isn't also an accelerationist take because being an accelerationist means you want things to actually, materially get worse.
No, I want a situation in which people will shut down the airports to prevent things from getting worse (Muslim ban) instead of one where people stay home assuming things can't get worse, and Biden can effectively pass a Muslim ban while they're snoozing...and then go ahead and start genociding Palestinians while a gob of fucking liberals still try to deny it despite what's right in front of their eyes.
Yea but if you do vote for Biden you'll also get someone worse next time around when they say "well they've put up with Hillary and now Biden we can run whoever we want"
I've been begrudgingly voting for dems my whole life and they've continued to get shitter.
In New York state the state dems are borderline indistinguishable from republicans at this point because everybody just runs as a Democrat, because the majority of people in the state vote for democrats.
At a certain point it just becomes doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Also the only time democrats have even given lip service to anything I care about in the last decade was when Trump was president and they were all marching in protests.
When dems are president all the same stuff keeps happening but if you raise the same complaints you get a lecture.
It is a moral responsibility to vote for Biden.
If they actually believed this then they'd be doing more than just voting.
who wants to bet they gonna do a nationwide trans ban and thatll be the new culture war thing now that abortion is taking a back seat 
yeah, the 2025 plan is ready to go. if the courts approve it - and they likely will - I'm not entirely sure what we can do. they'll go after blue states in the courts for not complying and those states will cave.
I dunno, seeing this only makes me more resolved to get out and vote for Biden, because I am really fucking terrified of Trump winning again.
Note: I am not American so I can’t actually vote, but I am really scared of another Trump presidency so Biden will still have my critical support if that means slowing down fascism for another few years.
America is already fascist regardless of who the president is. Liberals are really afraid that Trump is going to usher in some kind of new regime where he bans elections or whatever. Yeah if he had that kind of clout and power he would have done it already. Capital would have already done this if it's what they wanted.
Capital doesn't need to. The country is already run by cops and money. There's nothing left to conquer and no leftist opposition to crush.
America is already fascist regardless of who the president is
this is it right here. Libs are afraid of something they don't understand has already happened
yeah that's the other thing, they think Trump is gonna suspend elections? Our elections don't matter and even if Trump tried that he'd probably piss off absolutely everyone. He's Donald Trump, the laziest man alive. He's not going to do anything that would require actual coordination and planning. And anyone he hires is going to be too concerned with their career and book deals to give a shit about creating the New Conservative American Empire or whatever the fuck liberals think will happen. Trump couldn't even get his own vice-president, whose career is basically over, to do a ceremonial coup
Exactly. I have no clue what it is that libs are imaging will happen. We know exactly what Trump will do as president because it already happened. It'll be like that. Things will get worse, excactly like they will if Biden is re-elected.
i said nothing will fundamentally change and meant it Jack. Things will keeping worse at the same pace no matter what you do
Yeah, voting Blue isn't harm reduction. We've seen it. There is no reducing the harm or this dying empire
It’s a mixed bag. Trump would be worse for marginalized Americans. He’s going to start controversies over shit like non-cis people using public bathrooms just to distract from whatever grift he is doing at the moment. Not to say Biden is great on that but there is a difference there.
Foreign policy-wise, Trump is more likely to do something insane like randomly bombing Iran one day due to neocons like John Bolton whispering in his ear. Biden also has people influencing him but he has a basic understanding of where the red lines are.
Though, if Trump did bomb Iran, that could actually be “better” (scare quotes doing some heavy lifting here) if it means that America is unmistakably perceived as the baddie and the world unites against America, no more plausible deniability for countries like Saudi Arabia and India to remain on good terms with the US. So in that apocalyptic sense it would be better to let Trump fuck up America’s political relations than to allow Biden to carefully maintain them.
Foreign policy-wise, Trump is more likely to do something insane like randomly bombing Iran one day due to neocons like John Bolton whispering in his ear. Biden also has people influencing him but he has a basic understanding of where the red lines are.
I don’t know why people think Trump is more unstable than Biden on this stuff. Trump didn’t start any wars. Biden has bombed how many new countries in the last couple months? And is now hurtling towards war with Iran?
This isn’t to say Trump is stable or peaceful or anything, he did randomly decide to bomb Soleimani, but Biden has really been trying to prove that actually Trump is only 99% Hitler, I’m 100% Hitler, Jack.
he did randomly decide to bomb Soleimani, but Biden
The pentagon ghouls decided to propose it to him hoping he would do it and start an open war with Iran (as opposed to the quiet quasi-war we have with them now)
No president is coming up with these things to do. They just rubber stamp.
but he has a basic understanding of where the red lines are.
Which he then will strategically cross when calculated to be advantageous
Like Ukraine
I mean, Nikki Haley just called to assassinate multiple Iranian leaders while Biden is at least saying let's maybe not start WW3. I have a feeling Trump would lean more towards the former given his track record.
I feel like the whole "Biden started multiple wars" is just repackaged great man theory. The two main wars that started under Biden's watch are Russia-Ukraine and the Israeli genocide. Russia-Ukraine was untenable considering Ukraine never planned to abide by Minsk 2 and everything going on in the middle east, including the bombings, are a result of the Israeli agression in response to the Al Aqsa Flood.
We can get past that and ask who would have a worse response to these, and I think you can argue that the Democrats posing as the "reasonable option" gives them more leeway in the public eye to get away with these atrocities but "Biden started multiple wars" just seems like facile analysis that threatens to give people an idealist understanding of these conflicts.
You have massively downplayed the role of the Biden administration in starting the Ukraine war.
Zelensky was elected in 2019 as the president that was supposed to bridge the feud between ethnic Ukrainians and Russians, and he was overwhelmingly supported by the eastern Ukraine regions where ethnic Russians are the majority. He changed his tune completely after his meeting with the newly elected Biden in early 2021. Nobody knows what was exactly being said but it was pretty clear that the Biden administration had every intention of ramping up the tension in Ukraine.
This was what was causing Russia to sound the alarm. That’s why we had the US-Russia Summit in June 2021. The Russians prepared hundreds of pages of proposal, stated very clearly what their red lines are, and proposed multiple ways of resolving their security concerns. They were willing to compromise. It was Russia’s saying “we’re not joking and we’re taking this very seriously. We want to de-escalate.” This was straight up ignored by the side of the US.
Instead of ramping down the tension, the Biden administration shipped Stingers and Javelins to Ukraine in August 2021, merely 2 months after Russia asked them to take this seriously. This was followed by a 2nd shipment in December 2021. Russia invaded Ukraine 2 months after that.
So much happened in 2021 (and I am really condensing everything here) you cannot just say that the Biden administration didn’t have anything to do with it. It was a very deliberate strategic policy to provoke Russia into a war (the ultimate goal being, of course, to subjugate the EU to American capital).
All fair points. I have my doubts about Zelensky remaining in office as an anti war candidate but the Biden admin definitely at best accelerated that timeline. More so just frustrated with how often the dunk culture can impede serious analysis.
he did randomly decide to bomb Soleimani
It wasn't random. It was to appease the more bloodthirsty morons in Washington, who got angry when the impending war with Iran got scrapped because Iran proven they are able and willing to defend themselves. Remember how Trump and Pentagon were like 11.59 on war clock and suddenly stopped and shut up about it after Iran shot down that super drone with old Soviet missile? Right after that they even sacked Bolton which lead him to publish hilarious book where he accuse Trump of being the most sane guy in entire Rep party.
But the hawks needed to get the last word so they at least murdered Soleimani, as a treat. Some people maybe believed it will trigger the war anyway, but Iran is more restrained than them so it didn't.
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Didn't trump fire Bolton for being a war hawk? Trump is an isolationist, he showed he wasn't interested (or capable) of foreign intervention. No support from the rest of the imperial core, not subtle or patient enough to pull of coupe 
not sneaky enough to motivate the American people to nuke Iran and not understanding of the machine of capital to realise why they had troops in Afghanistan
I seriously cannot understand how one can look at the general global reproachment between nations that happened under Trump, because he withdrew the heavy hand of the US empire. Did he do it because he's a nice guy? No he did it because he's a racist who doesn't wanna waste money on all those dirty foreigners and he doesn't understand how the presence of the US is necessary.
He sincerely believes the propaganda we get told (Kim Jong Un is crazy, the people of Venezuela are rising up against oppresive government all on their own, were only in Afghanistan to help the local government)
Far more rapid escalation of violence against minorities domestically. Fascist militias will be given the libidinal privilege to violence by their god head sitting on the oval throne.
Trump was already president and none of this happened. Biden has oppressed Muslims and immigrants equally or greater than Trump. Women lost abortion rights under Biden, who refused to do anything about it like pack the courts or pass a bunch of legislature protecting it
You are getting sheepdogged by hyperbolic fearmongering. Muslims who face a lot of hate under Trump are the most outspoken in boycotting Biden for being a genocidal fascist. What is this liberal crap seriously why do we have to go through this “harm reduction” shit nonstop from you people
Bruh all I'm saying is dont be dismissive of peoples concerns about domestic racial violence. Under Trump those hate groups were marching around proudly. Trump also was the one who appointed the the judges who repealed abortion.
I'm not saying voting for Biden is less wrong or the right thing. But you have to keep in mind that these are real fears that American minorities have about Trump. Bless the american Muslims for standing up against Biden but for the love of god dont demand it of other minorities unless you're one of them.
I am one of them, and the most handwringing pearl clutchers are all white boomer liberals in my experience, MSNBC watchers and radlibs
Far more rapid escalation of violence against minorities domestically
That's not true, Biden has broken records (including Trump's records) with police funding and killings have gone up since 2020 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1362796/number-people-killed-police-us/
I was talking about fascist militias not the police. You can expect police funding and violence to go up regardless who's in charge.
I was talking about fascist militias not the police
What's the difference, and how many minorities did larping militias kill during the Trump years?
You can expect police funding and violence to go up regardless who's in charge.
That undermines your point not mine, also it isn't true, the number of killings per year was stable between Obama and Trump, until Biden came in and killings shot up
Please bother to read context of the thread and understand that I meant to explain why someone might be afraid of Trump being reflected. Not that Biden is actually better or worse in any way.
Fascist street gangs and right wing militias are scarier to the average american than the police. You can argue that its misplaced fear all you want but it doesnt change what people think.
For that matter I doubt that police killings went up because of Biden and not because of knock on economic effects of covid. In this neoliberal political economy the president has all the power in international relations but next to none domestically.
Trump openly boasted about wanting to deport pro-Palestinian Americans (which he really means Muslims). If you’re minorities living in America it’s a really fucking scary time.
Not to mention all the anti-LGBT agenda that the crazy MAGA Republicans are pulling as well.
What I’m saying is that you get the ghoulishness of Biden and all of the overt racism and emboldened fascism on top of that.
I'm kind of confused by him saying for months now that Biden is the more effective racist who's done more to hurt minorities and marginalized groups. But now he's claiming it's actually Trump who's worse for marginalized people.
DISCLAIMER: Honestly this is kind of just a vibes based analysis. God I need to read State and Revolution. I guess i shouldn’t share it? But maybe someone can take the idea and add on to it with more theory, I don’t know.
People don’t understand ratchet theory properly. The point of the Democratic Party is to be a highly popular, slightly better alternative to the Republican Party, which constantly moves rightward. This is to say that it’s basically a national-level form of blackmail which forces everyone left of center to vote for Dems or risk the ratchet turning to the right.
The dismissive, demeaning tone given towards concerns of another Republican presidency is really unsettling because of this. While we shouldn’t stoop to actively voting Democrat, openly pretending that the party that ratchets things to the right wouldn’t ratchet things to the right is only behavior we have been able to justify because it’s easier than explaining how we genuinely need to reject the Democratic Party in it’s entirety precisely because they’re part of the two halves that are keeping any sort of left mass movement from existing in the US in any electoral capacity.
This is to say that a Republican presidency (not specifically Trump, Trump is just some Republican, no worse or better than any other disgusting ratcheting ghoul, or, morally speaking, any Democrat ghoul either) IS something we should be afraid of, but we shouldn’t react to it by being vote shamed. I mean, you can vote however you want for harm reduction or whatever, but that isn’t going to do nearly as much good as building actual physical power.
We should be preparing our meagre organizations and resources to both take advantage of the mass dissatisfaction among disenfranchised people that will surely come into light in this inevitable surge of Republican confidence, and to support and provide mutual aid to those hurt directly by it. There are things we can do, however small, to ease the coming suffering of our comrades (the suffering we’ve already seen coming with various horrific laws and bills!). And we should be preparing to do those things, too.
Yesterday multiple Muslim people were barred from entering a Democratic rally... by the Democrats.
Two days ago, one of the most senior Democrats accused Palestinian supporters of being Russian agents. Most major figures in the party have lined up behind Israel and their genocide.
The Dems have done nothing to fix the Supreme Court, nothing to protect trans people from all of the state bills being passed now, and nothing about the rising homelessness in cities where they have supermajorities.
They're not doing anything worth supporting. It's all just marketing. They really don't care about winning because if they did maybe they would stop saying "We need a strong Republican party"
It has a lot of bad options What's is your point?
Biden winning in the fall is the acceleration outcome bc the right wont accept it and will move to civil war. The center libs will just accept trump and let him do whatever.
The only goal is to collapse the federal government as quickly as possible.
if that means slowing down fascism for another few years
i got some bad news for you on that front Jack
Also not American, both trump and Biden are genocidal human garbage, and most of the shit coming in the states is caused by systemic forces rather than great men. However, I think the election of trump would accelerate the loss of American soft power abroad because of how deranged he makes other lib world leaders/elites.
As you've said elsewhere, Biden has been a more geopolitically ruthless president than trump was. I think the machine will be less efficient if it has to change gears to a trump presidency than if Biden gets a second term to be The Smiler.
I dont believe I'd call Biden the more competent one in foreign policy at this moment. Given that he's currently abandoning Ukraine to sponsor the most blatant genocide in recent history. In the process he's simultaneously setting US international reputation on fire and getting international trade routes blockaded.
Sure, I meant he's efficient at operating the machine because way more American bureaucrats suffered trump derangement syndrome than Biden derangement syndrome. Also, see @Kaplya@hexbear.net's posts on hexbear about him as a ruthless operator that has absolutely eaten Europe's lunch the last four years.
Hexbearians tends to forget all the white nationalists and right wing militias that were super active during Trump. Thats what was really scary about him. Every racist in american was suddenly emboldened and felt entitled to do violence. Maybe their a spent force. Maybe the FBI really did tamp it all back down. But I'm not eager to see a sober alt-right reprisal that learned some lessons.
That said I'm not to concerned about Trump himself in the oval office. The worst things he did were do what any normal republican would do. Frankly he might've handled the Israeli genocide better. I dont think he'd hesitate to pull Bibi's leash and say "this is bad for business". Bibi would probably thank him and ask for him to yank harder next time.
We really just need one of these parties to complexly collapse.
if he signed away student debt tomorrow he'd win but they don't care about winning because there is only 1 party.
Kill student debt, legalize weed, just stop genociding brown people; lot of easy wins out there
