discord vs guilded vs revolt vs element/matrix what is your favorite?

honestly it's guilded, but before the enshittification of discord mobile discord wasn't far off and also it's easier to get mod in guilded, though matrix being federated is interesting. and revolt i really haven't tried but i have a account there

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Discord. The user experience there is just better than all the competition regardless if you like FOSS alternatives more. It's clean, it's fast, it's feature rich and works well.

but before the enshittification of discord mobile

Never understood this. The new app is a big improvement and you can now easily swap between servers, notifications, and DMs in the bottom row rather than having to scroll all the way up in your server list.

Fast? Clean? The new app is a stuttery, cluttered mess with more ad popups than a 2010 video streaming site and more framedrops than crysis. Until a few days ago I still used the oooold app and it was much better.

It has ads? I guess my adblocker works then.

4 different "buy nitro" "try new animated stickers" "have you bought a new profile background yet?" popups at the same time are also ads.

using clients like vendetta makes discord little better in android

Similarly, for desktop, vencord

My problem with it is how slow is now. It freezes up and I have to close it and reopen it constantly now otherwise I would love it because it makes sense where they moved things for mobile.

"Enshittification" is the hip new way of saying "I don't like <thing>," the term is rapidly becoming enshittified.

If the majority of users don't like your update, it's shit.

I should add: many users likely aren't vocal. However this doesn't really count as the people who actually care about the quality of the product will be the ones reporting issues, and this demographic does not always line up with the reviewer demographic.

But that's my point, the term "enshittification" used to mean a very particular kind of thing-people-don't-like. Not just a general "I don't like it."

It'd be like if the term "boring" started being used to signify any kind of disapproval. "Abortion is boring!" People might say. Or "my car keeps leaking oil, it's so boring." "The Supreme Court has turned boring! It's making its decisions based on partisan allegiance rather than the law!"

"Boring" would lose its original specific meaning in this scenario. It was a useful meaning, so I would find that rather unfortunate.

The new app requires more effort to perform basic actions.

As a daily user, I don't care what other benefits it may provide. If using the app becomes more difficult, it's a bad update. End of.

I was using the "sparkle✨️" UI. It was way better than the current UI. It had moved the server sidebar to the bottom of the screen, like a dock. I miss it. I am no longer able to use Discord one-handed. The UI update removed it from the app.

my sparkle UI didn't change between it, it just moved everyone else to it, so I'm not sure what happend with yours

Discord has and will always be trash, it's just that they do everything okay, and nothing good. I suppose bots are cool.

Also, nobody in the history of the world has wanted to swipe a message to the right to reply.

Whatever my friends uses I guess.

Matrix

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I like matrix nore vut all öy friends use discord

Matrix. I have bridges set up so I can message to Discord or WhatsApp through it.

Revolt is like Discord, but FOSS and run by some other people. Unfortunately it's not federated, or else I'm ranking it higher than everything.

Revolt devs are kinda hostile to other instances which is a shame

Tbh not even sure they really care about FOSS status, seems more like just a buzzword thing or maybe trying to pull a Duolingo

Honestly discord is where my friends are at but I would heavily prefer guided or revolt(leaning torwards revolt).

I tried matrix and honestly as my friend group's primary server administrator/manager it's moderation/permission system needs severe work for it to be a replacement for me. I feel bad about it cause it is a nice service, I love the bridge capability and everyone here hard pushes it but, I couldn't use it in it's current state.

edit: also just noticing that this post is months old, not sure how I came across it!