I reject "sus" being zoomer exclusive. Among Us has been a huge hit for 5 years now, was popular across demographics, and made an appearance in Glass Onion, which is the boomeriest Millennial movie ever.
The rest of it, sure, go off fam.
I agree, but for a different reason. I had an Aussie friend that said "sus" all the time on IRC, and that was in the 00's, so it well predates Among Us.
Ok, maybe suss is Australian. I was surprised to see it listed with "on cap" because I've heard suss being said all my life by a wide range of people, but I did grow up in Australia.
I have appropriated “sus” and “yeet” and sometimes “gucci”…I think those don’t even come from the same gens of slang, but they feel right in a sentence. Especially yeet.
Yeet and Gucci are early zoomer at best, mostly later millenial terms as they became popular closer to 2015 than 2020
Once you consider that "yeet" is the opposite of "yoink", it really seems like it's actually a millennial word. Though interestingly, my spell check considers "yeet" correct but not "yoink"
I'm pretty sure my friends and I have incorrectly appropriated yeet. We'll use it in the normal way but we'll also say yeet like sweet or hell yeah. We're all upper 20s now so it feels rather hilarious.
I get most of my slang from among us and then I learn the correct usage on tiktok and then I purposely do it wrong because aging is fun and I'm a parent.
Sus is literally part of the Australian vernacular and was in use when I was a kid.
Thank you! I thought I was going mad because I distinctly remember saying "sus" when I was in highschool in the early 2000s. It was definitely used both as "go sus it out" but also "don't sus us miss" was something we said all the time when a teacher tried to catch students smoking behind the portables.
So it sort of just feels like Gen Z expanded the definition.
My dad is in his 50s and has being using fire as an adjective for as long as I can remember
I don’t know what it means either. I’ve heard the other two in casual conversation, but “no cap” is completely new to me.
in this specific context it means bullshit, like "no bullshit," but it can't be used literally any other way because "to cap" someone means killing them
As a millennial, describing something as fire, or mids, that was us. Y'all youngings are appropriating old people culture. That's how we described weed in the 2000s.
Edit: also when kids were saying 'ratchet', that was a direct descendent of Nurse Ratchet in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Ken Keasy used that name to be a homonym for "rat shit." Next time you hear so e drop 'ratchet,' ask them what it means. They won't even know.
It's weird how old slang crops up like that. Ratchet was like, the 60s.
Edit2: I predict "kind" will get taken in, like "KB" or "kind bud" to mean "dope". Like "you those shoes are kind, fam".
I also predict that "beasters" might make it's way in, but "beast" already meaning "dominate" might trip it up, because "beasters" were weed that was grown rushed with phosphates in the soil in indoor hydroponic labs, and that shit had lower THC content than most mids, looked better, but smelled off. Dead giveaway was hollow stems. Idk. Calling beats by dre headphones "beasters" would be a fitting insult to their products.
Fleek died the moment someone managed to get that fire started. Good riddance.
"Yo" is another one that the Zoomers love. I haven't heard so much usage of that word since the mid 90s. And "bruh" is just another form of "bro"/"brah".
Another good example is when twerking made a comeback a few years ago, despite not being a thing since 2000s hip hip.
there was a book (Terry Pratchett?) I read as a young adult that had a character called Yoless because it was the 90s and he didn't ever say "yo" and everyone thought that was notable, weird and hysterical
Others dislike the word "Mid" because it's youth slang
I dislike the word "Mid" because it's often used to imply that average is bad
I hear mid and I think oh shit, cheaper for more that isn't overpriced shiny crystal smelly shit but still almost smokes the same.
Kinda like every movie, song, and game ever describes as mid lol.
I swear people can't just enjoy popcorn shit anymore which is all anything mid is. Sometimes I don't want to watch the best movie ever. Sometimes I just want to watch stupid lighthearted comedy that doesn't take itself too seriously. Sometimes I just want another stock standard Meteoidvania or Harvest Moon clone.
When you quit chasing new highs constantly, even the old highs work well. And I don't even smoke lol.
I see you haven't had Mexican ditch weed, although I did always like quantity over quality.
Yeah, we called it brick weed cause they were packaged to save space not the product... and we generally didn't fuck with it because it wasn't even green by the time it was up in New england
I bought a batch of that shit once that had been dyed green - you could tell because most of the green pigment ended up concentrated at the end of the fat stems. Nastiest shit ever, I'm probably lucky to be alive.
I've had Indiana ditch weed. There's basically no THC in it at all. But it's useful to sell to other high school kids who aren't aware of that and then think they're high when they smoke it.
We used to call Mexican brick weed regs, or reggie, which I guess was slang for regular. Though I'm not sure why we called it that because it was much easier to find "fire" weed...which we called krypto or crippie. I think that was a south Florida thing though.
Ah, I'm in a border state, so brick weed was super easy to get. I had a buddy that would stuff a quart zip lock full for $40.
I personally find all of the high quality weed to be too strong. I don't smoke enough to have a high tolerance, so even one hit can be too much. I wish shops would sell lower thc stuff, although I've had good success with D8
I had never heard that slang for weed before in my life and I was meeting up with an old friend about 10 years ago who was going to get weed for me and he said, "I can get mids." And I said, "I don't do pills, man. I'm just interested in weed." I thought he said "meds."
I take it as average rather than great, which while it does have a less than stellar implication, doesn't seem like it is inherently bad. Moreso a "meets expectations" with a hint of "there are better options available"
ask them what it means. They won't even know.
I'd argue they'd know what it means but wouldn't know the origin. Words evolve. I just learned this etymology now but I've always known what it meant implicitly when said. Tbh I assumed it was more local/rural slang when I was younger because I mainly heard it from other kids, not in media, etc.
I guess what I mean is if you asked them with regard to the etymology... Ratchet is a word. It has a meaning highly disparate from "shitty." Like, it's a tool. A noun. It does things.
So kids using this word against its actual meaning, ask them why and they won't understand.
Like if I asked you why you were using the word ratchet (say yesterday), which is a tool that helps turn bolts, in place of the word "shitty" and you'd be all 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I thought it was an AAVE corruption of "wretched". Nurse Ratched was certainly that, but it didn't derive from the character's name. Urban Louisiana slang, more like.
Is teaching AAVE a thing anymore or did they decide it was racist? I can't keep up. I know for a while there was an argument that teaching AAVE at schools was designed to entrench a kind of linguistic class ghetto, but then you also had the liberal "hecking valid" argument, and I'm not sure what the current party line is.
Nurse Ratchet has nothing to do with African American Vernacular English, or "ebonics".
Just gonna add that bringing AAVE and education into the conversation (which has nothing to do with ebonics or education whatsoever) makes you come off a bit like a possible race baiting dog whistler. It's an amazingly easy thing to avoid, so I've tagged you with a cute lil nickname to keep track.
I'm not the person accusing people of thought crimes for being class-conscious, I swear to God I'm so fed up of the internet.
I had this conversation with one of my kids recently:
Her: "This thing is gas!"
Me: "Gas? Why are you talking like your grandpa in 1965?"
Her: " What are you yapping about? They don't know what 'gas' means!"
Me: "You wanna bet? Ain't you ever heard that Rolling Stones song? Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's a gas...?'
Her: "Bruh..."
Me: "Don't shoot the messenger."
It's amazing watching young adults discover that their new fad is a rehash of concepts that are decades old.
In the 90s, when everyone started using the word fat/phat, I found out from an article that it's usage that way could be traced back to 1920s jazz musicians. Everything old is new again.
I always thought the word "ginormous" (a portmanteau of gigantic and enormous) was totally modern, but then I read a book published in 1943 by a Battle of Britain Spitfire pilot which had "ginormous" in its glossary section.
Me looking at this meme nearing 40..."pretty sure we used sus and fire as teenagers".
Then again I didn't grow up in USA and we had different "hip" words.
That's fire was definitely a millennial thing, possibly Gen X.
OP is just that hip.
so white gen z is just claiming all the black stuff from the 90's?
i guess it's par for the course...
I was using sus as a kid 30 years ago. I'm quite confused by how it's apparently a gen Z thing
Growing up, I thought adults were out of touch. Now I realize that kids just take some things way too seriously and it's hilarious to exploit.
My millennial (or maybe gen x) roommate spends a lot of time on tiltok, so she's always teaching me (a gen z) new 'gen z' slang.
It's fun, but on the other hand she has a pretty skewed perception of young people. She's always watching engagement-bait content online, and she seems to think most people my age are complete idiots.
I mean don't get me wrong, we are idiots, but we're not a different species or anything lol.
Highly disorienting to realize that the world is run by idiots.
And also invented the atom bomb.
In the glim flickering light, a moth invents a lightbulb which outshines the sun.
I try not to think too hard about it, for optimistic reasons.
People who complain about younger people are the biggest idiots who forgot that other idiots said the same about them a long time ago. Same with those who complain about older people a little too much.
Yup. I went to school and college with some monumental idiots back in the day. I had my moments too, of course. Idiocy transcends generations.
No. Gen Z is the future. The rest of us are dinosaurs.
Love, someone who manages students at a university.
It's all predominantly young kids adopting/appropriating American Black vernacular and calling it their own. Millennials did it, genz does it. Go ahead and down vote me, my back hurts.
See people say this like it's Black vernacular but dont recognize that it's just urban vernacular. Urban vernacular changes frequently because there's more people around. The internet adopts it quickly, and it spreads from there, as the actual initial definition of a memetic concept.
There's a reason society as a whole doesn't co-opt rural Black vernacular, and it's because it isn't actually racially-based.
Exactly. I just had this argument with a couple of friends who were raised rich white kids, in the rich white neighborhood. They were criticizing me for appropriating black vernacular, and wouldn't believe me that my entire neighborhood and school spoke that way. It's inter-urban (poor) slang, not specifically black. Most of my neighborhood was Mexican, yet they all used these terms. Granted, they have different inflections on the words, but the vocabulary is pretty much the same. Anyways, now I have friends accusing me of racism for speaking the way I've spoken my entire life. I just hadn't loosened up enough to speak that way around them before. Ain't identity politics grand?
I find it charming in a way. Urban vernacular becoming the lingo of even contemporary rich kids.
Then again, I just said I found something charming, so maybe I'm out of touch.
I like to mix and match to annoy my younger brother. Example, "fr fr, no skibidy, on cap".
Based God, Li'l B is 34, so don't feel bad
You're not, but someone did. After the fact, I mean. Like not as part of its origin. Like as a lie.
No, no. This was Li'l B's blueprint from the outset. Li'l B has bitches and sex every day. That's how he became BasedGod. It's like One Punch Man.
I've found that if I don't say those things and just treat younger people with respect then I don't get made fun of for being old so much.
Well these things always have their roots in the past and get re-appropriated from other uses, but I don't recall seeing the term before 2 - 3 years ago.
I use these terms sometimes, but I'm 26, I don't feel old enough to be a millennial but not young enough to be Gen Z. I'm in college now though and I'm older than all my classmates and that makes me feel old as shit.
I feel like fire was ours unless it's just been a localized slang. I feel like I've been saying it for like 10 years, maybe more. Maybe I just got the ole dementia.
Yeah, that's one that I think just never totally went away but has had a resurgence
My wife and I (both Xers) have started frequently trolling our son with "stop the cap!" when he's being... economical with the truth. Somehow that level of low-grade, passive-aggressive sarcasm seems very fitting to our generation.
I'd like to upset some niblings with "fr fr, ong"... Does anyone know if "fr" is pronounced as one word like in "from", or if I'm supposed to just say "eff arr"? Same for "ong," please.
I'm Gen-X. My 13-year-old daughter is under instructions to never call me 'bro' or 'bruh.'
My nephew's do that to my brother-in-law. They also call him 'dude.'
Dude is weird to me, but calling me 'bro' is just wrong. I want to be called Dad or Daddy. She's mostly okay with that.
I am not partial to informal nicknames. If I stand with a group of my male coworkers I usually greet them with “gentleman” or something that. I don’t work with a lot of women but I’m not sure what to say to a group of women. Ladies seems kind of demeaning and gentlewomen sounds weird to me. I usually just go with miss or ma’am.
Having come up in the 90s-00s, the few times I've been called "daddy" were a little surprising at the time ("it's just something I say, don't overthink it", etc), but thankfully said moments were in the rear-view quickly enough.
In later years, my kids didn't add the "y" and one even asked why other kids say it that way. Hell, I'm ok with "dude" from my kids or their friends, in certain contexts, but "bruh"? Might as well try calling me "son" or "boy", and see how that flies, child. 🤪