Reading comments in different communities, I noticed that users hardly leave smilies. Why is that?
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Reading comments in different communities, I noticed that users hardly leave smilies. Why is that?
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BigDickProblems was such a hilarious subreddit, i shit like IAmVerySmart and such. Its so easy to see thru often
But don’t you know condoms burst at the sight of my shlong? It has nothing to do with the fact that the sight of naked me dries up a pussy quicker than a fucking hairdryer.
No like letting someone "dry out", rheres no way they didnt think of that already
Edit: what is "dry rape"?
second a few other comments, a lot of people conflating emoticons and emojis
It's understandable. Back in the old old days, these 😱 were often called emoticons. The reason was that the chat software that people used to automatically replaced ;-) by 😉. The menu was the same and the name of this menu was emoticon.
One of the most famous example of this is MSN Messenger.
People keep the habit to call them emoticons.
In the old old days, emojis didn’t exist yet, until NTT DoCoMo created them for mobile phones. Emoticons predate them.
Very true. Also, I believe you forgot to escape the 2nd ^ symbol? I think it should look like this:
=>\^.\^<=
=>^.^<=
For me emoticons were something that started when all of the boomers came to Facebook. Floods and floods of useless emojis left and right. So now I feel weird using them, like I'm cheapening the platform while also acting like the people that ruined Facebook for me
Are emojis considered emoticons? Call me old but I think this is an emoticon ;-) and this is an emoji 😉
Agreed! Although the little image things on message boards like phpBB, ProBoards and Invision were also emoticons, even though they were basically early onset emojis
I know my one professor used punch cards and worked on some of the data structures. But it was people who cared about how tech worked.
I have a negative attitude to standard emoticons built into Android and iOS. They don’t look good, they’re too many.
I'm interested to know who uses emoticons depicting, for example, player rewind icons or rectangular shapes. Are there people who use these emoticons at least once a year?
I make apps and I use them for prototyping buttons and stuff... So yeah, pretty often.
Could just look like this. It's a dumb little stopwatch app I made some time ago to explain a different concept. All it uses is plain HTML, CSS, and Javascript. Because I could use emojis as icons, I didn't need to bring in a separate icon pack.
If I didn't have access to emojis at all, I probably would have just used text only... But if I'm prototyping an app that I'm building for someone else, it helps make it look closer to the real thing, and that's kinda nice.
Hmm... Then wouldn't it be logical on the part of mobile OS developers to make the extended set of emoticons hidden by default and enabled through system settings? Or make an extended set of smileys as an app that can be installed through the app directory?
Maybe! The MacOS emoji picker actually does this: You can choose which categories to include or omit, and set favorites... And not all of them are enabled by default. No reason phone keyboards couldn't do the same thing. MacOS calls most of what we'd consider "emojis" to be one category though, lol... So that wouldn't actually solve the problem. But it's possible.
Installing them like an app wouldn't really be a thing though-- Emojis are part of Unicode, which means they're essentially text characters. You wouldn't want to omit those from the system entirely, because if they appear in text, you still want to be able to render them. Kind of like... You might not need (or want) a convenient way to write an "é," but it'd be annoying if somebody wrote "the appetizers were good, but the entrée was just okay" and you saw "entr�e" because you didn't have the right app installed.
Personally, I'd rather have access to everything and just use search to find the one I want, but it might be nice to have the option to omit categories that you aren't interested in.
My hypothesis: Lemmy has an older userbase, and in general older people feel less of a need to express their emotions. They're busier discussing the topic than highlighting their attitude towards it.
Perhaps cultural reinforcement plays a role, too. As emoticons and emojis are less used, they feel more out of place, so people who'd use them elsewhere avoid them here.
My 80 old father-in-law spams emoticons like he's a 15 year old girl. Cringe-worthy and hillarious at the same time 😂
I have stopped contacting family members because the constant emoji spam kills all desire to have a conversation with them. Feels like empty meaningless chatter.
I only use emoticons to clarify an emotional message. On forums, I'm more interested in sharing and discussing ideas and opinions. Emoticon spam makes me sick with worthless cringe.
Personally I feel like if I need to use one, then I've done a poor job of writing.
I guess the other component is that I write a lot at work (I'm an engineering manager) and emoticons aren't really appropriate for that kind of communication, so I'm not in the habit of using them.
What kind of engineering manager isn’t using a dramatic shrug emoji or emoticon dozens of times every day?!
Don’t tell me your team has their shit together.
😂 what!? I've worked with 11 engineering managers and they've all used emojis. You're either not in software or you work for a bank/insurance.
Not sure what to tell you, I'm the senior manager for software engineering in a company that makes rocket engines, solid rocket motors, and space electrical power systems. I've been working there for 38 years and emojis are pretty rare.
I also work with space electrical power systems. That was an odd thing to see in the wild lol
Huh interesting. Are you comfortable saying more? The company I work for did the EPS for the ISS, we did the MMRTGs for the Mars rovers, and some others. We're not at the same place, are we?
I did start by saying I was an engineering manager, so I thought that part was a given
Sorry! I've only heard that title used in the context of software engineering gigs.
Hmmm, maybe we have a semantic issue. That's literally my title: Senior Manager, Software Engineering. But it's a heavily engineering company, not a heavily software company.
Emoticons started getting popular in the 90s, so I'm in the age group where that was happening. You'll see other people in this thread saying they felt like it was a boomer thing. I don't think my age is the reason.
All these people singing the praises of emoticons over emojis, and not a single XD to be seen. I know you're old enough to remember the XD times! XD you cowards!
I like to throw it around sometimes, especially when I need to soften a statement or when someone says something so stupid I can't help but laugh XD
In msn messenger emoticons were what emojis are today. So to me emoticons and emojis are the same... i dont what to call the things op refers to... maybe ASCII emoticons?
Edit: turns out im wrong https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon
Edit: sort of wrong... emojis are also officially called emoticons
It probably doesn't help that a lot of things will take your emoticons and automatically convert them into emojis for you. Like you type :-) and it changes it to 🙂 without even asking. I've run into this in a lot of chat clients.
Yeah, I'm confused. I do use emoticons and I rarely use emojis. What half of that is relevant here?
In some ways no, but communication is complicated. Emoticons and emojis feel different when used I feel like. :) and 🙂 is not the same.
They're also used by different generations of people I think. So in that way it is meaningful to talk about them as separate concepts.
Emoticons are like swear words.
I use them sparingly not because I disapprove of them, but to preserve their effectiveness.
Just for you
Few more for the set:
I find them obnoxius, just like inserting animated gifs and meme responses. If used in serious context it makes the whole post look cringe, using them to replace words is fit only for smartphone troglodytes sending character-limited posts/SMS.
I use them as a complement in my messages where I want to convey an emotion which isn't obvious from the text itself. Like if I'm being self-deprecating in a joking manner, e.g. Not very easy to convey in text. But if I add some kind of smiling-ish emoji or something, it's clearer that I'm not serious.
Overuse is cringe however.
If something isn't obvious from the text, why not change the /style/ of writing instead of appending dissonant graphics? Make it obviously sarcastic or humorous, instead of leaving the users guessing if its satire or sincere expression.
Also Reddit didn’t support emojis for a long time. But yeah, it was considered very “normie” (hate that term but applicable)
Aside from using them in reactions during discussions with group that I know (Discord, Chat/Hangouts), they're too fuzzy in definition to be useful in conversations. When reading on Lemmy if I run into emoticons, I just skip over them as noise in the stream. I don't even try to figure out what the person is trying to convey since I'm not going to be able to track whatever the latest trends are in their meaning. It's the same reason you don't spam a public forum like this with youth slang if you want to communicate with a wide demographic of members.
I didn't realise the meaning of emoticons could change. Now I'm thinking 'what if the cat image I put at the end of the text means something bad?' 😾
I think most oldies are embarrassed by them. I'm not though, but I only surf the world wide web from my phone, so perhaps I'm more hip 😎
I think people 😘 find them more obnoxious 😱 than informative, and rate 💯 opinions higher than 😜 emotional reactions, because emotions are 🤑 cheap and add nothing to a constructive 🏗️ discussion
This sums it up. It's meaningless noise. I wish there were a stable way of removing all emojis from a page via browser extension. Chrome's kinda broke youtube comments, filtering out comments that didn't have emojis, haven't looked for a firefox replacement yet.
I'll probably respond here instead of under the post: I use emojis to denote sarcasm or strong reactions usually, so I don't feel the need to spray posts with them.
Otoh they do have an ability to make anything seem silly and/or advertising 😅 so for the comical effect, why not 乁( ⁰͡ Ĺ̯ ⁰͡ ) ㄏ
I mean, if the words are still there its literally nothing else left but personal tastes. It adds, not subtracts, even if people dislike it. The disliker certainly isnt realesed from their obligation to answer the question if they so crave being heard
Emoji give us an extra avenue of encoding emotion into our text, something that is usually difficult. So I think everyone should be using them 🤓
I thought I understood your comment until I got to the emoji. I'm not sure if they work terribly well
It almost feels like talking to a child when I see emoji spam from people. Emojis are just cheap, which makes them way less valuable by definition and added visual noise distracts from the point.