But only when you expect the betrayal. It’s when you trust him not to, that you must be careful.
It's criminal that Berman would only allow the Garak/Bashir thing to be subtext. The first gay couple on Star Trek and also a cross-species couple would have been amazing. The best we got was evil mirror Kira fucking anything.
It's criminal that Berman would only allow the Garak/Bashir thing to be subtext
Ok I am SO GLAD I was not imagining this! I’m only halfway through S2 of DS9, and but I have been sitting here questioning whether Bashir and Garak were gonna have a little something going on in the future, or if the girl in my class that talks loudly about her yaoi manga collection was finally getting to me…
Well, if you need something that a simple tailor can help you with... like high-stakes negotiation with foreign governments, data exfiltration, intelligence analysis, or other such trivial tasks that don't require contacts or secret knowledge, he's the man for you!
I think what we have here is a misunderstanding. Whatever his sexuality, Garak is clearly just a plain, simple, tailor.
https://twitter.com/MlNDMELD/status/1601549565751984128
(Sorry for the Twitter link, couldn't find another source)
Ya ive read that the actor played him gay but I didn't learn that till after I'd watched it all so I guess knowing that he is straight makes it even harder for me to see it. Tbh I could have a guy hit on me and not know it and I do have some pretty "weird" ideas/beliefs and stuff that I don't think a lot of mainstream straight guys have or would even agree with
I just thought they were buds just like O'Brien and the doc. Never got a gay vibe from it I just thought it was 2 guys being friends with eachother.
Can you give an example of how it was romantic?
Ok go back and rewatch but pretend one of them is your preferred gender.
There is so much vaseline on the lense when Bashir doesn't know what to do with his hands it's like a 50's romantic movie.
According to Andrew Robinson's book Garak is bisexual though. Also if you haven't listened to Andrew Robinson reading "A Stitch in Time" you're missing out.
Fuck it, Im blocking this sub. Garak is not gay, men are allowed to have friendships with other men. Yall are worse than ao3 with your fanshipping.
The actor who played Garak is on record saying that he played the character as bi, with a crush on Bashir.
Andrew Robinson himself has said in many interviews that he played the character as “Omnisexual,” and initially attracted to Bashir. In fact, he was originally written that way until Rick Berman put an end to it out of nothing more than homophobia, but Robinson continued to play him that way regardless.
I love when actors do this out of a genuine love for the potential of a character, star trek would be so much worse if it wasn’t for so many actors challenging the ethical and visionary failings of the script both through their acting and directly speaking up. It matters less that the script never ships bashir and garak (I thinkkk I haven’t finished though.. hahaha) because the acting makes it true no matter what the narrative says on paper or what dialog happens between them.
It is always about what is implied by what we are being shown isn’t it? Especially if you don’t quitteeee take the words the actors are literally saying at face value as the only dimension of truth.
Nothing is more fitting for garak in a way, though that is more sad than anything because the show would have been richer with an openly queer garak.
“Your pants are ready to be picked up, Doctor,” was their fuck code. I mean, seriously, nobody gets their pants altered that often.
Berman said to knock it off, but the whole cast and crew kept it going low-key for the rest of the series.
I love when actors do this out of a genuine love for the potential of a character
Frakes and Sirtis did this with their characters as well in TNG.
Aside from the initial introduction to their past relationship, the writers wanted to leave it in the past so that they could explore other stories. But the actors played it up every chance they could get.
That still didn't stop the writers from pushing Troi and Worf together toward the end for some bizarre reason. But if not for the actors' efforts to keep things alive throughout the run of TNG, Troi and Riker may not have ended up together in the end.
