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Google paid Samsung $8 billion to be the default search engine, app store and voice assistant

https://www.cnbctv18.com/technology/for-google-play-dominating-the-android-world-was-existential-18320691.htm

Epic, the maker of the popular Fortnite game, is seeking to show that executives at the Alphabet Inc. unit were eager to discourage the proliferation of third-party app stores that would cut into Google Play’s operating profit.

Google paid Samsung $8 billion to be the default search engine, app store and voice assistant

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Bishma

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At this point I don't think I should have degoogled my life, I should have just gotten Google to pay me to continue to use their products. Given the what they're paying everyone else, I must be worth at least a few hundred dollars a year.

ubermeisters

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You are worth less than $2/year to them

Bishma

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In terms of my data on the market, yes. But in terms of Samsung's user numbers divided by 8 billion I'm worth about $6. Based on what they paid Apple, each of their users is worth about $15. I just need to get my invoice on the right desk.

Corkyskog

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Nah just invoice for printer ink, and there is a good chance someone pays it.

LicenseToChill

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Like when that guy scammed google out of 120mil with fake invoices

Corkyskog

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That's impressive. Usually the target organizations with a lot of autonomy, but poor payment controls. Like school districts... the schools usually have the autonomy to enter into their own small contracts, but a central office has no idea what invoices are legitimate without calling every school for each invoice.

tsonfeir

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So, would that even be a crime as long as you sent them the ink with a 10000% markup?

Corkyskog

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Depends on how contract savvy you are... if you word it as a service contract where acceptance is payment, you can sometimes get away with not sending them anything.

But generally yes, that's what you would do. Often times it's ink for a discontinued machine that nobody uses before. The ink itself is probably recalled.

tb_

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You can get Google to pay you through Play Rewards!

beeng

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You are, but you're not getting it.

Probs get down votes, but look up data latte, you can put your data on the blockchain (anonymized) and get paid if somebody buys it, eg for market research.

Which essentially is what Google does. Sells your data to the market

Aatube

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wtf that sounds dumbly interesting
i can't find it

LWD

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beeng

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It's an idea to play with... I dont think the specifics are all ironed out, but maybe with more building and more ideas would we control our data and earn from it like the corporations do.

https://www.datalatte.com/

Aatube

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Participate in surveys that actually matter.

Seems like yet another survey rewards site except maybe with blockchain and dollars

beeng

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You can download your Spotify data for example and get rewarded for it.

Aatube

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Hmm, where would you sell it to?

LWD

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Aatube

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It says that the NFT is optional

LWD

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beeng

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And we already know how much of a joke NFTs are. They are digital receipts at best.

Have a longer think on that. Interoperability with receipts and a programming language. Sounds like it could go somewhere.

LWD

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beeng

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Data latte. Sorry I mistyped earlier.

PrivateNoob

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Hmm interesting, it seems blockchain is everywhere. Thanks for the info!

LWD

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beeng

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The pure data isn't sitting on the blockchain itself, but in a ipfs or something similar. But the contracts and tokens allow you to automate it and own it/give out access to it to a certain extent.

Its a small project, but I like the idea, could be something.

LWD

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beeng

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You can go pretty far with that analogy. A docker container is just a glorified zip folder in a kubernetes cluster. Yes sure you get some of its functionality, but you're missing quite a bit.

MonkderZweite

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Sorry pal, you're product, not customer.

idunnololz

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Technically based on how much you'd need to pay for the different services to replace Google it kind of works out? Eg. It's the price you're paying for free Gmail, search, calendar, etc etc.

joyjoy

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That does explain why they dropped Bixby.

LWD

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joyjoy

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Bixby was actually pretty useful before they abandoned it. I remember using Bixby Routines to configure my phone to set itself to vibrate when I was at work and within work hours. I can't seem to do anything but an or condition with Google's replacement, "Modes and Routines."

Virkkunen

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Modes & Routines is literally Bixby Routines renamed to remove the Bixby branding (and to avoid confusion with people thinking it's part of the voice assistant). Absolutely nothing was removed from this change other than the Bixby name and it's still the same good and old Samsung developed app, Google has nothing to do with it.

Judging by the fact that you can set multiple if conditions (and it explicitly says "when all conditions below are met") straight from the main view of the routine, it means you haven't even tried creating a routine at all.

https://i.imgur.com/zjouWZj.png

joyjoy

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Hm. Turns out mode is something different from a routine. Who knew?

Thanks for the tip.

LWD

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ubermeisters

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My Samsung (s23+) comes with modes and routines installed, and it appears to be Samsung not Google, at least according to samsung app store.

fwiw.

ubermeisters

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Google is shortly replacing all assistant apps with GPT powered versions. They gutted the dev teams to skeleton crews a while back, then restocked the departments woth machine learning people. The teams can't work together at all, and that's why the products are shit now. I've very little faith in future advancements from these teams of disparate developers.

rob299

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How did this post get nearly 200 upvotes but fewer comments, then an average post with 75-100 upvotes I mean I get this this news is shocking because it's Samsung not apple, so it is a new leak regarding Gogole, but sheesh a lot of things this week was just about as 'shocking'

The numbers are impressive, so i'm not necesarilly complaining, but those numbers caught my eye. congratulations op

Kushia

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Many people vote but may not have much to say about the topic or that someone has already said what they're thinking.

rob299

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One thing to note, Lg has their own app store, they would bundle it on smartphones along with the playstore. I remember having a phone from them that did the bundling. Now I use Blu phones.

LWD

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rob299

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hadn't use an LG phone in some time.

Aatube

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