1 do, buy sometimes it can be important to make sure you mean I and not 1 (and definitely not l) if you're writing a code of some kind.
I do, but then it's too easy to confuse with absolute value. Beats confusing it with 7 though
I do, but dependent upon context. If there is no risk of confusion with a capital I or lower-case l (though I tend to write the latter with a slight rightward curve at the bottom), then yeah, it’s just a basic vertical line.
This is a thousand percent more than I thought I’d ever write about my penmanship. Welp.
My underlined 1s look like my 2s when I write with a marker. It's a problem I didn't antisipate that arose when I was trying to distinguish my 1s from my Is and ls.
You'll change your tune when your work forces you to regularly write nonsensical combinations of letters and numbers.
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The meme is specifically calling out why the seven slash exists. It's very possible to confuse the two with sloppy writing.
I think what snor is saying is that the "hatted" 1 prevents mistaking it for an I when there are numerals and letters in the same context.
If they curved the tick instead of some angled dash nonsense there would be no mistake. Thus an angled top on a 1, rather than curved, should be a punishable offense
Its everywhere dude!
Edit: that x is meant to be + but im as lazy as i am bad at math
Why would I put in the extra effort? How much time have I saved by not adding in that extra line in my 40+years of life?
How much more will I save in the next 40+ (less, of course, since computers will be the main source of 7s, whereas most of my 7s in the first 40 were in my youth before computers were commonplace, and I hope I don't live that fucking long)?
Why would I put in the extra effort?
Distinguishes it better from 1. 1 and 7 can look pretty similar
I think the argument is that if you write a 1 with a line at the bottom it is easy to confuse it with a sloppily written 7, whose bar moved down a bit.
Which invalidates the argument of the user above. (If not inverse it - a lot more numbers in life start with a 1 than with a 7)
Me neither, but I also don't read a lot of handwriting from other parts of the world. But I have heard that some places teach the 1 with a horizontal bar and the 7 without one.
depends if you've ever written down a password and misread a seven then you've literally wasted more time by not doing it.
though strike through zero is probably more important for that situation.
@metaStatic I have found that the fastest way to parse long passwords eg software keys is if you underline all numbers as you write them down.
Now do you misread a 7? Maybe as a T if you have particularly bad handwriting, but I can’t say I’ve ever had that issue
O and 0, on the other hand… tell me why strikethrough zero isn’t standard in text format yet
Ah, I always write my 1s as just a straight line
Though it does make all my 1s, capital Is, and lowercase ls look the same
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Unless you have an actual need to write a lot of 7s in a row and then rush off and actually do something you otherwise wouldn't have been able to accomplish had you omitted them, you can't claim that as usefully saved time. The tiny fractions of time by themselves aren't enough to do anything on their own therefore the total amount of things you have accomplished in your life would be the same whether you added the lines or not.
Me too. Then one day I thought about how it was just unnecessary extra steps and I stopped. I also used to do a fancy 1.
I started slashing my 7s and 0s in university; it's just easier to distinguish them thanks to the abundance of Greek letters, symbols, and notations used in engineering. Also my bad printing was further marred by constantly nodding off while taking notes, so anything to improve clarity.
Ya. Math and engineering totally ducked up my handwriting. I mean, it was already pretty bad. But all those other letters didn't help!
I spent 10 years in research, slashing your 7's and 0's is absolutely required in data keeping. Every intern/tech I had got the handwriting lesson.
I also change how they wrote capital G after too many "is that a 6 or a G" moments.
Exact same except I didn't go to college and it was 100% because I couldn't read my own writing well enough to distinguish without them.
You draw sevens with a small bar in the middle because it looks better.
I draw sevens with a small bar in the middle because I have the handwriting of a goblin and my ones and sevens often look similar otherwise
We are not the same
Yeah it's important for me because I have shit handwriting. I also draw zeroes with a bar in the middle because one of my college teachers used to subtract 1 point on tests for every zero with no bar.
We all hated that but tbh I'm glad I have that good practice ingrained in my brain now because I can't accidentally mix up 0 and O
I have strong feelings about this one because that is the only reasonable way to clearly distinguish numeral from letter
Well, most of the time. There's this bastard: Ø.
That's a letter, not a zero. Second-to-last letter in the Danish and Norwegian alphabets. We Swedes use Ö instead.
True, but it's an old habit to keep it at an even 8 bits and it's a visual placeholder for me, s'all. Also, I can't even remember the last time I worked with a nibble, even with simple MCUs.
Prof from Germany explained that 1 in Germany has a flag so 7 must have a slash. Seemed good enough of a compromise to slash all the 7s and give 1s flags and feet.
this is a dashed seven thread. we don’t take kindly to straight-topped threes. double-bubble eights are also not “one of us”, nor are angle-ticked ones (if you’re gonna tick a one you better give that tick a curve). slashed and dotted zeroes are ok, but naked zeroes are heresy. overly-hooked 6s and 9s make us feel uncomfortable. triangled fours are the worst, though.
Exactly. This is why your stupid superfluous dashed sevens are heretical. Nobody should ever ask me if my 3 is a 7; what an absolutely absurd question.
I used to use the slash on 7s when I was in Jr high because it was legit and nobody did it.
But, like... Why? What purpose does it serve? It's not like the slash through a 0 to differentiate it from an O.
My 7s and 1s look too similar without it, to the point it was affecting my math grades. This was sixth grade. I've done it ever since
In my country the slashed 7 became mandatory in the national curriculum in the 1930's. Our military strongly requested this in order to achieve better accuracy in artillery fire control - in those days every calculation was done by hand and mixing 1's and 7's could easily have deadly results.
This practice was quickly adopted by the whole population and it was a great success with no drawbacks. The slashed 7 makes it impossible to mix 1's and 7's, therefore it is the superior choice.
I write numbers like my favorite fonts do. ᛐ, not ᛁ. ４, not 丩. Something like ㇋/ℨ/Ჳ, not З. And 7, not 7̵.