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Why This Election Is the Most Crucial Since the Civil War

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-next-presidential-election-is-the-most-important-since-the-civil-war-if-donald-trump-is-elected

Matt Bennett, co-founder of national think-tank Third Way, tells The New Abnormal why a second Trump presidency would be a “catastrophe” and leave America “unrecognizable.”

Why This Election Is the Most Crucial Since the Civil War

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“It seems like every cycle we say that and we kind of mean it but this time I think we are in a category change where I believe the United States and the way that we think about ourselves as a nation has not been in danger like this since 1865. I think the only comparable moment to this was the Civil War,” he tells The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie.

71 comments

footfaults

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Here's your "options"

trump-kubrick-stare give Israel more cluster bombs

biden-supervised give Israel more cluster bombs

Tachanka

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ummm trump is going to JAIL and you forgot the 20 other MODERATE republicans who want to give israel more cluster bombs... liberalism

tails__miles_prower

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Wertheimer

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“If Nixon wins again, we’re in real trouble.” He picked up his drink, then saw it was empty and put it down again. “That’s the real issue this time,” he said. “Beating Nixon. It’s hard to even guess how much damage those bastards will do if they get in for another four years.”

I nodded. The argument was familiar. I had even made it myself, here and there, but I was beginning to sense something very depressing about it. How many more of these goddamn elections are we going to have to write off as lame but “regrettably necessary” holding actions? And how many more of these stinking, double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote for something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils?

. . .

Now, with another one of these big bogus showdowns looming down on us, I can already pick up the stench of another bummer. I understand, along with a lot of other people, that the big thing, this year, is Beating Nixon. But that was also the big thing, as I recall, twelve years ago in 1960—and as far as I can tell, we’ve gone from bad to worse to rotten since then, and the outlook is for more of the same.

hst-pissed

queermunist

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So you're telling me if this election goes the right way, America will collapse?

Oh no. How terrible.

🙂

HornyOnMain

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Matt Bennett, co-founder of Third Way

Third Way

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Trudge

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Third Way.
Not Left. Not Right. FORWARD.
Class Collaboration.

footfaults

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TW has been around since at least 2008. It's a grift

CliffordBigRedDog

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2008?

Try 1922

UlyssesT

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billdawg yes-hahaha-yes-l

corgiwithalaptop

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seen-this-one

coeliacmccarthy

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this is the most important election since the civil war, which is why you should vote to keep the country stable, prevent war, and preserve slavery

barrbaric

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lathe-of-heaven Dems will run on preserving the 13th amendment as-is because getting rid of prison slavery might open up re-legalization of all slavery.

NephewAlphaBravo

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All I'm saying is, I'd probably vote for you if you promised to finish Reconstruction.

PKMKII

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Of course it’s from ~~Reaganite conservatism dressed up as moderation~~ “Third” Way

SupFBI

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Guy who always at the peak of climax thinks about how crucial the next election is.

Hatandwatch

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Oh gosh, it all makes so much sense now. Liberals are just edging themselves with voting and elections. That's why they're so pathologically rabid.

WIIHAPPYFEW

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Never go into the fivethirtyeight goon cave, worst mistake of my life

NewLeaf

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I hate that I know what either of those things are

Mehrunes_Laser

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vote

iie

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their podcast is called The New Abnormal

can't we just return to the clinton administration?

Count042

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I'm not voting for Trump, for obvious reasons. I'm also unwilling to vote for a genocide denier, though.

Votes need to be earned. This message is the same bullshit Democrats do so they don't have to give things to their base. Trying to shame their base, rather than earn the votes.

The saying 'Republicans fear their base, and Democrats have contempt for theirs' is really true.

FLAMING_AUBURN_LOCKS

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i think our friend Joseph is more of a “passive genocide participant” or “genocide enabler” than a denier— bit more severe of a charge

GarbageShoot

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Remember he also said that the Palestinians were lying about their death toll reports

Count042

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Yeah, I mean, I agree. The Genocide Denier is more of an argument for liberals. They are more likely to admit genocide denial, then actively assisting genocide. I think. I don't know, I'm probably be wrong.

ElChapoDeChapo

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I'm less into arguing with liberals than I am into calling him Genocide Joe just because it pisses them off

UlyssesT

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How many 9/11s is it equal to if there's a GOSH DARNED CHEETO back in the White House? cheeto-man

Egon

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Kind of funny that libs tout Biden as the "most progressive president since FDR". FDR wasn't really that progressive, he was terrible towards native Americans as far as I know. He just implemented basic welfare

GrumpigPoopBalls

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FDR stood for strong progressive ideals like imprisoning citizens without trial and confiscating all of their property based on their ethnicity

420blazeit69

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The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie

You can just rip off The Strokes for your podcast name now??

VHS

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She just wanted to be one of the strokes

Catradora_Stalinism

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oml Im dying they have never come up with anything new

Egon

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Weve been voting for the lesser evil since at least the 80's, maybe it's time to change strategy, since all that strategy apparently does is make us choose between fascism and a four-year-extention on making that choice, all the while things still get worse and "my party" becomes more and more irrelevant because we "have to swallow our pride and vote for the shitty dem" or whatever (who has a platform that's close to the GOP platform four years earlier). Maybe it's time to see what happens

Egon

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At least under Trump the rest of the world started to move away from following US foreign policy

Saoirse

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May the imperial core shatter into warring factions for want of a fit ruler. May all the ruling parties' ancient councilors and power brokers turn to dust, just as their ambitions. May God grant the proletariat opportunity to strike at its enemies.

Kaplya

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Adult In The Room here.

Yes, Biden is bad, but a lot of you are going to find out the hard way just how much worse a Trump or Republican administration is going to be. If you think Biden is bad enough, you truly don’t understand how much of a nightmare it would be under the Republicans.

Russian_Bot_6969

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Being an adult means supporting a genocidal regime for reasons.

7bicycles

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I'm very foreign and also very stupid, elaborate for me please

bbnh69420

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It’s a bit I believe

7bicycles

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they hail from here so I'm inclined to agree with you but gotta make sure

BoxedFenders

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WithoutFurtherRelay

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