https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-will-ukraine-war-end-206987
The United States is pushing Ukraine further into a war that it cannot win.
Everyone here trying to suggest that the National Interest is a Russian propaganda mouthpiece...
Fucking laughable, maybe pick up a book before you comment on global affairs.
What a joke. If Russia could have successfully invaded Ukraine, they would have done it by now.
The fact is that Putin's invasion of Ukraine has already catastrophically failed and now Russia is caught deep in a quagmire of death and failure that will set the Russian society and economy back by decades more than it already was. I have no doubt that Russian autocrats and oligarchs will spend the foreseeable future diverting, deflecting, distracting and generally looking for every pathetic way they can to blame the United States for the situation that they find themselves in, but objective truth will always remain: Russia mistakenly invaded a country that they believed that they could take over using a combination of hard and soft power and now they are only beginning to pay the price.
Giving guns to our allies fighting for their freedom in Ukraine and watching the Russians throw their own people into a meat grinder for no reason other than for Putin to save face is some of the best military money that the US has ever spent. Dramatically worse even than the Americans wars in Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan, Putin is bleeding Russia dry of lives, money, equipment, brains and talent and so far they have absolutely nothing to show for it.
Ah yes, National Interest, a famous Russian propaganda outlet. Get yourself checked from brain worms ASAP.
The article makes exactly the same arguments, russian trolls are making. I don't know the publication, but this article for sure is not quality content that would bring any value. Its just regurgitation of Russian trolls.
It's as if the arguments "Russian trolls" as you call them have been making are the actual reality, while you've been guzzling propaganda out of a fire hose. The fact that you still can't understand that Ukraine lost the war highlights just what an utter imbecile you really are.
This has been my perception all along. I don't really get how anybody thought Ukraine could win. In expressing this opinion, you're labeled as a Putin puppet. You don't have to be pro-Russia to say that they are winning.
I'm hopeful that the war comes to a close soon though.
Anybody capable of thinking about the situation objectively understood this from the start. As you say though, most people are unable to have a rational discussion on the subject because they're emotionally invested in the war.
Ah, how refreshing to see someone coming out as a deranged putinversteher asshole from the start, without wasting my time.
Toodles!
I honestly feel like some trekkie should've pulled your card already 'cause you're giving them a very fashy name right now
I have no idea what your are taking about, but we trekkies are against violent conquest, against violence itself. However defending ourselves and weaker peoples is a whole other matter. We are on the side of the oppressed and subjugated and are willing to stand up for them. I'm pretty sure they are satisfied with everything I have said.
You are free to comment on my opinions, please do , but attacking me personally, that doesn't come out as serious.
What you want is a "debate", and I'm not giving it to you. I don't take any settler who fixes their face to say "russian bot" without an iota of irony seriously, to be frank. Not one of you are worth the effort honest discourse takes as it currently stands. If you want the veneer of legitimacy, maybe try being legitimate first.
Your profile picture (at time of writing) is literally a Russian cosmonaut. Your bias is showing. (Pretty sure your profile banner is from Russian propaganda too, though I'm sure you'll correct me if that's untrue.)
But I suppose that does make you more overt and honest. Not necessarily right, but definitely honest.
(Unless you're an anti-Russian double-bluff. I can't profess to be an expert on the psychology of this sort of thing.)
Thanks for providing us with a great example of using ad hominem in lieu of having an actual argument.
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You cant be serious lmao
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That review is for news articles. If you look at the URL, it very clearly includes "blog", so this is an opinion piece, which I take with the same amount of consideration as Letters To The Editor.
Richard Nixon? You can't expect us to trust anything associated with a ratfucker.
Uh… yes. It’s an opinion piece. You can disagree with the analysis from an opinion piece, but I linked mediabias checker to show it’s not just some random blog with no credibility that would just post an “AI Russian propaganda article”
(Also quiz for the class: who founded the EPA lmao)
You can disagree with the analysis from an opinion piece
That would require an actual analyses existing instead of just a strong opinion with no evidence.
Did we read the same article? It’s not super deep analysis (what do you expect from libertarians) but he’s backing up his claims with actual reporting if you follow the hyper links.
If I follow the links then I get informed that those peace talks actually happenend and that's it.
I guess if I say that there is proof that the sun will explode tomorrow and then link an article showinging with pictures that the sun indeed exists, you will believe me, too?
Did you read the title of this article? Brilliantly loaded with two Russian taking points : US being the reason for the war and that Ukraine cannot win and should not even fight. No one that cares about credibility would write that.
I don't think you really appreciate how we live in different worlds now.
I know the US provoked this war and I know that Ukraine can't win, and you know Russia attacked for no reason and that Ukraine is on the cusp of victory, and nothing we can possibly type at each other will ever change that. Reality is dead. Choose your own adventure!
Stoltenberg, the head of NATO said that the US push to expand NATO was the key reason for Russia's action - https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/nato-chief-admits-expansion-behind-russian-invasion
Ukraine, on its own, cannot win. It is far too small. It can only win with US weapons, but it has far fewer soldiers than Russia. So if the US sends weapons, Ukrainian soldiers will die. The question is in what ratio? The evidence is that Ukraine is losing soldiers faster than Russia. So the weapons sent by the West are guaranteeing Ukrainians die in droves.
I apologise lemmy served me this article so quickly. I would be OK without seeing it at all.
This article is incredibly dumb. What's the alternative, they don't try to defend their country from being invaded? We've already seen all the genocidal actions Russia has done with the towns they've taken over, the mass graves and all that.
If needed, Ukraine will and should fight to the last person. Hopefully it doesn't come to that though. They need to be supported so it doesn't come to that.
The alternative was to sign a peace agreement back in March last year before Ukraine lost all its territory. The fact that you think Ukraine fighting to the last person is preferable to Ukraine having declared neutrality and abandoned its NATO ambitions shows what an piece of human garbage you truly are. As Stoltenberg has now admitted, the war is happening because of NATO expansion
The west is cynically using Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia, and scum like you are facilitating this. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying because of deplorable human garbage such as yourself. If you want this war to keep going, why don't you go sign up for the foreign legion instead of cheering for other people to die you piece of shit.