Inspired by https://lemmy.world/post/6312195
And, to set the record straight, I do enjoy pizza hawaii
Inspired by https://lemmy.world/post/6312195
And, to set the record straight, I do enjoy pizza hawaii
You wouldn't be assuming that everyone on Lemmy is American, would you? Because I lost my shit over that too.
I'm Dutch myself so nope, not assuming so XD
Nevertheless, as a European, it is my continental duty to shit on Americans, which is (partially) why I made the meme :P
Hold the fucking phone bud. You can shit on America all you want, but don't. Think you can shit on Americans all you want.
It was Americans that saved you all in ww2. We are mostly good and decent people.
But, I have never in my life seen raisins anywhere near Mac & cheese. I've never seen olives near it either.
Jokes aside, it was Canada that liberated the Netherlands. And they took in the Dutch royal family as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93Netherlands_relations?useskin=vector
It's actually quite a beautiful story to read about, for those who are interested.
That's why we named the quintessential canadian winter warming move after them, the dutch oven.
Why do uptight Americans always go straight for “we saved your arse in WWII” whenever they feel the slightest bit offended someone riffed their country a tiny bit.
Oh? The greatest credible threat to the world? Not saying that dropping two nukes on the country that invaded and raped or killed uncountable numbers of people is heroic, but without us and the lend lease, Europe was fucking done for.
Also, none of us say arse.
Thirdly, we fucking did save your ass in ww2. Also in ww1. I'm literally never the ugly American in public, I've had Turkish taxi drivers in German ask me why I want to go to the American army base because I'm so not that person.
But give credit where it's due.
ur funny
you saved nobodies ass and its EMBARRASSING youre taking ANY credit when you probably ask for help getting a milk jug out of the fridge.
you saved nobody. america now has saved nobody. soldiers arent heroes theyre people that want to survive stop glorifying the war and the us like we won a call of duty campaign. America wants its own people to die and they want to capitalize on it.
the military is for fuckn weirdos that like supporting oil tycoons and if youre forced to join then you have my utmost respect as that fucking sucks.
if ur gonna talk shit at least have something to back it up how many one arm pullups can you do, how longs ur planche, front lever etc? oh you cant do any of these things because youre a couch politician, soldier, and patriot i forgot. focus on something useful in your life. america doesn't wanna suck your dick
I was in my second week of basic training when 9/11 happened, so don't give me shit about supporting oil companies.
I did my time. 15 months in baghdad in 03 and 04. Got hit with 13 IEDs, shot at nearly every day. You just don't have a clue what you are talking about.
That's hydrochloric acid, though. Big no-no for ingestion according to my uncle who's a doctor and my step brother who teaches chemistry.
Drugs are here to stay and thus have won the war. That they're not legalised and closely regulated means common sense hasn't won yet.
until people can get help without fear of incarceration and healthcare sponsored therapy drugs have not won. people still suffer
also when the illegal drugs just funnel minorities into prison for slave labor the drugs haven't won
I mean traditionally ham and pineapple is their thing so I don't think anyone is getting done dirty so long as non-fans aren't forced to eat it 🤷
Hawaii is the exception as the only place in the world where eating pizza with pineapple is legal.
I will go on record as saying I don't give a shit if there's pineapple on my pizza. I wouldn't order it that way, but I'll enjoy a pineapple, jalapeño, ham pizza if a slice is put in front of me.
Raisins in Mac and cheese... I can imagine it's probably tasty enough, but the rubbery consistency of raisins in tandem with sticky pasta is what I find revolting
I love raisins and even I think this would taste like shit.
I do love me some Hawaiian tho and raisins are bomb in a biryani... Fight me 🤣
Bacon is a tastier option than the ham... It's actually my favorite combo of pizza toppings in fact.
Today I learned that this thread is real and not a meme. I honestly thought people were joking about raisins in Mac n cheese.
Raisins? Pff. Never heard of that. Frozen green peas though? That's where it's at for the boxed Mac and cheese.
Apples and cheddar? Pear and brie? Peaches and balsamic?
Sweet + tangy + savory is an incredibly popular combination, so Mac and cheese + raisins isn't all that unusual.
Also it's subjective. You don't have to like it, but it shouldn't be surprising that other people do.
Sweet and tangy with the presence of acids and moisture from the fruit are a good combo but guess what raisins don't have?
You ever have a charcuterie board? Dried fruit and cheese are staples there, and neither are particularly moist.
I'll say it again, it's ok to not like a particular thing, but you shouldn't be surprised when someone else does. Everyone's tastes are different.
I don't get it.
Is raisins in Mac n cheese like, a big thing in other countries and us Americans just don't get it? If so I guess more power to you, that is news to me. I'd try anything once but I don't really like raisins to begin with so it's a bit of a tough sell.
And yes, pineapple on pizza is delicious. I've seen some truly abhorrent pizza toppings from elsewhere in the world, so I don't think we have some kind of monopoly on those crimes.
Mac and Cheese is a Canadian thing
I wouldn’t want to consider the Kraft boxes to be Mac and Cheese but it’s the only thing with statistics
Canadians out-eat Americans when it comes to these blue-and-yellow boxes by 55%. That means Canadians buy 1.7 million boxes of the 7 million boxes of Kraft Mac & Cheese that are sold each week
Read More: https://www.mashed.com/614458/this-country-eats-way-more-kraft-mac-cheese-than-the-us/
It's also why Kraft/Mondalez makes the weird flavors for you guys like Pumpkin Spice or Cotton Candy.
The problem with Pineapple on pizza is that everyone thinks ham goes with it. That's ok, but pepperoni and pineapple is so much better, and nobody ever gets to try it because of "Hawaiian" pizza.
I think what also turns people off of pineapple on pizza is some places do these huge chunks of pineapple. Smaller chunks are better as they actually cook down a little and are delicious.
I am also part of the pineapple and pepperoni game. I would also recommend trying pineapple and Italian sausage if you like Italian sausage.
This, also bacon and pineapple 🤤
Or go full Hawaiian with crispy spam and pineapple....
Ham is bottom tier tbh
My wife loves a good 3 P pizza as she calls it...Pineapple, Pepperoni, and Peppers (green). She orders one at least once a month.
I always like people gatekeeping pizzas that use toppings other than the traditional Italian ones.
... ignoring the fact that tomato sauce is from the Americas.
I put leftover beans and corn on a pizza from Taco night and one of my friends flipped. I thought it was pretty good. Pizza is just bread sauce and a topping.
Canadians breathing a sigh of relief when everyone blames America for pineapple on pizza instead of them.
I wondered if it might be because of you lot. Pineapple is typically paired with canadian bacon (ham) on pizza.
I didn't like pineapple on pizza until a coworker did pineapple and jalapeno.
The sweet/spicy combination was pretty great.
We can only protect ourselves on the merits of ginger beef and the ceasar for so long....
While I can go both ways for the mayo on the burger debate, not often you hear that it's the best part.
A&W is where I go for the mayo on burger goodness. Even the mozza sauce is just thousand island with more mayo essentially.
I just want to confirm, that raisins do not belong anywhere! I rather have pineapples in my cheesecake.
I love oatmeal raisin cookies and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
Raisins are delicious and most cookies would be improved with oatmeal.
Oatmeal raisin cookies are one of my favorites! I don't bake them often because I eat way too many cookies when I do.
People get angry with me for saying that oatmeal raisin is better than chocolate chip.
I love oatmeal raisin cookies, hold or majorly reduce the raisins. Cookie part tastes great because oatmeal is awesome.
Have you ever tried aging the dough in the fridge for a few days? It makes the oatmeal softer while the outside gets crisp.
Nah, don't mix them up, olives are great, especially well sourced ones. Raisins are just an unpleasant surprise, every time.
Well for me it's because grapes are my favorite fruit so it's like everything I love about a grape is sucked out of it.
People hate raisins because they're not chocolate. I enjoy G.O.R.P. on occasion, but I don't eat trail mix for the raisins. I leave most of them behind. They can be a bit much. Ratio of anything to raisin needs to be right. One raisin to five to ten of anything else, otherwise they're just overwhelming.
Olives, on the other hand, are fucking delicious. Hell yeah. Bathe me in their brine-rich kisses.
But it needs to be an American cheese cake with pinapple, not that stuff we have here in Europe.
I'm tempted... sounds delicious and I wonder why I've never seen pineapple and cheesecake combined. I wonder if the acidity is hard on the cheesecake.
Hear me out. Christmas rice with raisins. They absorb moisture from the dish and become these sweet little treats in the midst of a very buttery and savory rice. I hate raisins but I fucking love that rice.
Maybe it's a cultural or family thing? So it's just pre-cooked rice, you cook it as you would any rice I guess, but you add chicken stock, raisins, and butter (at the end, after you're done cooking it). Variations often also include peas and corn, maybe diced carrots, but we stick to just raisins. The savory mix of the buttery rice with tiny packets of moist raisins sprinkled about the rice makes it delicious!
I dunno what Christmas rice is, but raisins are so much better in savory applications than sweet.
There's a big difference.
One you're putting berries on cheese with carbs
The other you're putting berries in cheese with carbs
See the issue?
Straight to hell all the way to the bottom of hell with you with nothing to eat until the end of time except mac n raisins.
I'm italian from a family so italian we're all walking stereotypes, and pinapple+black olive is my favorate pizza combination.
You always know when someone says something like "we're so Italian we..." that they're definitely not from Italy
I always loved hearing stories from kids that spoke Italian at home in NJ who then went to Italy to discover the 1850s era Sicilian they actually spoke was nothing like modern Italian.
My grandparents imigrated with all 12 of thier kids (my aunts and uncles), you got a problem -lots of hand motions- wid that? Eh? Eh?
But seriously who started all this topping gatekeeping, pizza has spread all over the world with variations evrywhere.
I have been up and down a few posts concerning this and have yet to find (maybe i missed a couple) anyone who has tried this and reported back.
I am beginning to think that this was just some housewives joke on the internet.
"You know what, this should really rattle some budgies if i just say i add a few raisins. oooo I am such a devil" and little did she know just how well it worked.
On a basis of raisins and cheese whiz being good, I think it might have a little bit of charm.
I've made water cereal, but it started as an accident, which I then had to live with because there was no more cereal left. I've also switched milk and orange juice, which I tried, but did not continue on with.
Yeah that would make sense, it's such a grandma prank to put "flies" in the food teehee
Pineapple on pizza is such a forced debate, nobody normal sincerely cares that much, and anyone who does is either pretending or has a toddler-level approach to food. The "authentic Italian" gatekeeping is also incredibly stupid and ironic, given Italy's history of appropriating other culture's foods then claiming they are the arbiters of the most "authentic" version of said food.
My fav dolce pizzas to make are cinnamon date puree with pecans and brown sugar sprinkled over top, or a sliced pear/apple with brie and a Balsamic drizzle.
Any contrarian food opinions are forced debate, and just plain stupid. Arguing that "pineapple doesn't belong on pizza" is the logical equivalent to arguing "no one's favorite color should be red".
The hilarious pizza regulatory body in Italy says it's not real pizza though!
This is maybe a hot take but some of the most authentically branded and certified pizza in Italy happened to also be some of the worst pizza I've ever eaten, and the best pizza I had in Italy was no better than a good quality pizza anywhere else. I mean they're damn good pizzas, but turns out baking a circle of dough with tomato sauce and cheese on it is a pretty basic thing to do well. And yeah I know there's complexity in all of this but it's not materially complex. Use the proper flour and hydration, knead it well, let it cold ferment for a day, shape it properly. Oh you didn't use the Roma tomatoes from Mt Vesuvius? Sorry not real pizza.
Also the demand for authentic Italian pizzas from foodies in North America has created some of the worst pizza abominations, because the skill required to shape a ball of dough by hand isn't widely present in the service industry workforce. Like yeah when the right person is in it's great, but even at these upper range places tough gummy dough inconsistently shaped is common. "Never frozen though so it's real!" Nobody can taste the difference between frozen dough that's been thawed, let to rise, and baked, if anything the longer ferment time makes it taste better.
If you can't tell I detest the ironic authenticity trend in these heavily market-researched upper range investment restaurants right now. That's not even to say the notion of authentic food is bullshit, but it seems like a lot of these type of places are more focused on creating a commodified form of what people think authentic food is, than actually making good food. Unfortunately this trend has plagued the humble pizza. I think the way to judge if a pizza is "real" is if you can consume it while walking down a street having a conversation, that's real pizza.
What all of this effort should really go to... Italy should invalidate the Italian ancestry of anyone involved with calling Chicago deep dish "pizza." That shit is a casserole, delicious as it may be. NOT PIZZA
I dunno cause dried fruits are pretty normally served with cheese, and if the starch was a baguette or cracker instead of pasta it would be considered almost boring. People add ketchup to mac'n'cheese which I think is gross, but to me that's a stronger and sweeter taste than rasins.