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@lemmygrad.mlI would argue that's a corollary, not a discovery. It's corollary to a subjective belief that life has value—one that I agree with, but that is by no means innately or objectively true.
Objective morality implies that morals are not invented or created but discovered. Whence do these discovered morals come? How can one test a moral theory and arrive at an answer as to its objective veracity? What is the scientific unit of goodness?
There's a very simple answer to your question that it seems like you're almost deliberately avoiding: native Hawaiians.
'Associated with [by outsiders]' is a wholly different animal than 'part of [according to members]'. That's literally the point of the conversation we're having.
Absolute nonsense. Do you think leftists simply didn't vote hard enough to prevent fascism in Germany and Italy?