We are in a privacy community. A privacy community with a specific website that makes recommendations on messenger apps. And yet, OP is asking for an opinion on comparisons between Signal (recommended by the guide) and Telegram (which isn’t even in the guide). Why would this be necessary if they weren’t thinking Telegram could be a private and secure messenger too? Even tho it’s not recommended on privacy guides. Draw whatever conclusions you want to fit your own world view. But just because others do so differently, doesn’t mean they’re bots. That’s a very lazy way to view the world. And that is also just my opinion. If you wanted to discuss the points of the article, I’m down. But if you’re coming in here to be reductive because you have a differing opinion, then this is all I’m going to be saying to you.
Thanks for the article. That’s a really good breakdown for most arguments of Telegram propagandists. 🙌
Hm? Not sure which Signal you’re using. But it very much still requires a phone number to use. Usernames are not available just yet. There’s activity related to usernames in the GitHub repository, but no release yet.
They did remove the ability to send and receive SMS from their Android app. That was about last year or so.
👀 I don’t see that one! Not in either build 🤓
EDIT: I see it now! In the RC 😍 so cute!! Damn that search page is so handy!
Anyway you can update this branch? 👀🙏🥹
EDIT #2: I rebased the branch locally to the RC commit! This runs really well 👀🫶
I just want to point out, that I prefer the classic icon in this build over the TestFlight build 🙏
I’ve been using this build for a week or so now. And I gotta say, it’s definitely the missing feature for me 🥲 Even with the little delay in tapping the icon, I am finding it very much an improvement for me to use the app ❤️
I'm getting at the fact that most platforms do stupid shit like "this message might not be deleted if the receiver already saw it" like WhatsApp does and/or replacing messages with placeholders saying "this message was deleted". Telegram can be plain-text and can have a lot of issues but it guarantees that stuff is actually removed without trying to bullshit you like other do.
There's absolutely 0 guarantee that what you've "deleted" is deleted. On any platform really. But what you can rely on is the fact that the E2EE is there to make sure things are only readable by whoever the messages were intended for (barring being hacked and compromised keys etc). The message can say whatever it wants, doesn't mean a lot if you can't trust the source. Again, we're just talking about different threat models. With Telegram, it's not meant for secure and private communication. It has a different audience. And to push Telegram as a private or secure communication, you're actively doing the public a disservice.
If we assume that your privacy / security is broken (because it is) I might as well use the platform that provides the best desktop and mobile experience with fast syncs, ability to disable animations, have real desktop apps and not electron shit.
If you can't trust even open source technology that you can review and build yourself. And trust renowned cryptographers reviews of this technology.. then why are you in a privacy community telling people their experiences aren't true to what they're telling you?
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