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@slrpnk.netDid they say that Ross Perot was a threat to the constitutional order? I find that unlikely, they certainly didn't make this much noise about it the year before the election.
And yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a Putin bot -- speaking of the early 90's, do you remember see how Clinton supported Yeltsin's coup which directly paved the way for Putin to take power in the first place? Of course, Bill couldn't have known that, but maybe the lesson here is we shouldn't be supported coup's in other countries, ya know, overthrowing democracies and putting fascists in power. That's bad right?
I'll agree with you there that polls generally can't be trusted, and I agree people need to get out and vote, but It makes our job a lot easier if you have a candidate that people actually like. So I really hope -- for the sake of the republic -- that they convince Joe to step down and open up the primaries.
You should try understanding where the other person is coming from before accusing them of being brainwashed by their government.
Have you ever looked at the so-called Political Compass? There's a 'left to right' axis and an 'authoritarian to libertarian' axis https://www.politicalcompass.org/ So you can be authoritarian and leftist according to them (there is a hidden bias in the test, towards libertarian socialism)
I'm not even saying that, I'm coming at this from more of a 'post-left anarchist' perspective, that there is no 'leftism' as such but what is left or right is a relative historical development, so otherwise contradictory movements end up being lumped together as 'leftists' by historical accident, but they still end up influencing each other, so for example marxism has historically influenced anarchism and vise versa.
You're saying there is some ahistorical 'true' leftism that's objective and indistinguishable from anarchism. You can also just say "anarchism is cool" and I would agree with you and we can not have this pointless argument. see also no true scotsman fallacy
Biden beat trump in 2020, now he is polling neck and neck with Biden, we Need to Run Someone Else or Trump is Going To Win.
you seem like a nice person, i get that you misunderstood what i said at first. now you're really committing to arguing with me
Leftism is cooperative and anti-hierarchy
well, no not really, that's anarchism, which is historically a small part of leftism, sometimes there are no anarchists in a leftist movement.
"Leftism" historically has all kinds of hierarchies, Marx, Lenin, Castro, all very hierarchical. You can say they are not real Leftists. Personally I would not say that Marxists Aren't Leftists, that seems incorrect to me. I have lots of disagreements with Marxists but they are part of "the Left" whether we like it or not.
The Jacobins, who were the first group of people to be called "Leftists", were ultra hierarchical and dictatorial. There's a funny story about the Origin of the terms 'left' and 'right wing': during the french revolution the National Assembly would meet in this big room, the allied delegates would naturally sit together. Some sat on the Left side, others sat on the Right side. That's it, that's the the origin, there's no innate essence to leftism, it's certainly not some trans historical entity.
I respect the right of the autonomy of instances and like I said, this is something within the domain of their individual moderation decisions, but we do in fact share collective interests, it's like with federating with facebook, it's not just a matter of individual instance preferences, anyone who federates with Meta would be blocked by everyone who isn't because they then become data mining conduits.
This is somewhat similar to the DCMA issue, the copyright trolls are the enemy of all of us and if you're willing to compromise with them without even a plausible legal threat. Well that hurts the rest of us. You might as well be inviting them to go after the other evil pirate instances.
okay so, just like in spatial terms, left and right are relative, right? There's no objective left or right, there is no left or right side of the planet earth, right?
So for example there is a left of the Democratic Party, like AOC, but they are only left relative to the rest of the Party. So what is meant by left wing of Wall Street are the relative left leaning capitalists, i.e. bourgeois liberals
Left and right are also relative historically, what may be considered far to the left or right at one point and history may later on be reversed.