Biden could shoot a Palestinian child on live television and they'd find a way to scold people for using it as justification not to vote for him.
Remember libs used to say Trump could shoot someone on live TV and MAGA would still vote for him.
You can't memory hole the NYT editorial board literally calling for Biden's head. You'd be right under normal circumstances, not this time IMO.
You have people running around saying the series is anti-war or whatever the fuck. Maybe you can find some buried recordings with the characters talking about some CIA op to topple governments or something. It is not front-and-center.
MGS 4's theme is literaly about how the war economy has pretty much destroyed the world and created hell on earth for Private Military Contractors. This is hte continuation of MGS 2 where the "government" is controled by some shadow group that controls the media and manufactures popular consent, an explicit condemnation of US democracy and an exposition of the ties between capitalists the Patriots, the media and the MIC. MGS 2 successfuly predicts the modern internet almost 100% correctly.
The literal title refers to a WMD created by the US MIC to push MAD to the highest stakes even though Kojima himself explains way back in MGS 1 how the post cold war status quo lead to nuclear disarmament and an attempt to control nuclear proliferation. The existence of MG is a commentary on how the US ignores and sabotages their own foreign policy just out of psychopathy and capitalist greed. The fact he is Japanese serves as an even bigger factor given their national trauma. The fact is the US would do another Hiroshima under the right circumstances. Kojima definitely says paraphrasing Baker(MGS) "nuclear war is closer now than ever".
Of course Baker isn't correct, nuclear war isn't going to come from some random small country(DPRK, Iran etc), the point though is to observe he perfectly represents the delusion and obsession with maintaining hegemony and their superpower status. As he says "we need a weapon of overwhelming power", except they don't.
That is the politics of MGS, a small part of it even.
But that loser manchild of a fascist gamer meant "political" strictly defined as the modern american cultural war BS. You should be aware of Ocelot/Snake. That is what they fear. They're not talking about the finer points of the US military industrial complex lol.
If this is a lefty space that is frequently visited by non-leftists, and can be used as a way to persuade them, then we shouldn't be staking out the hottest possible take and telling people they should be shot if they disagree.
Hate it to break the news, but to be quite frank, literaly nobody believes this, nobody sees HB like this, certainly if you stick around for long enough you'd have seen the cycles of people coming and going and how discourse changes.
Believe it or not this site used to be quite a bit more in favor of "harm reduction" in 2020. The current trend you see of complete rejection of Biden is not something that came overnight, even if for some that was Oct 7th, for most others 2o20 was already the compromise. Just go back and look at the trauma people here got from Biden's handling of COVID.
That is now part of this site history, "harm reduction" is now a complete and utter shitty joke and a meme as a result.
So as you can see, nobody now visiting this site believes there will be any discourse with people to the right of us like liberal dems. We did that and the Americans here already got burned from it.
We welcome liberals and people further to the right if they're honest about learning and changing, but nobody is under the illusion there is any debate or convincing anyone anymore. We tell Libs can go and eat shit and die, after all its what they told us throughout COVID for example.
Every nuclear power monitors each others nuclear assets, there is no credible way the US can say Russia launched a nuke without clear evidence corroborated by every other nuclear power. Its not like Iraq WMD where you can hold a picture and say Russia did it, not an actual fake nuclear attack.
The US certainly wont use that themselves, I think there are hardliners in the actual military that take MAD somewhat seriously and wouldn't dare it. Keep in mind if the US detonates a nuke in Ukraine that may cause Russia to think its under nuclear attack themselves and with a few minutes to make a call and a history of close calls throughout the 20th century, this is could just result in Russia nuking the US. I think there is enough "institutional" knowledge in the US military to know its not worth to sacrifice themselves for their "subjects". Why would the US risk WW3 with Russia to save "temporarily white" Ukrainians?
Israel is a completely different level because nobody there can retaliate against the US. This has always been the key point.
So the only alternative is some dirty bomb in Ukraine but Ukraine already tried to attack the ZNPP and at this point they can't do it even if they wanted to. But if somehow they manage to create something with US assistance it still wont move the needle anywhere.
Russia still has credible deniability, they have no excuse to use a nuke now that they're convincingly winning and even lib mainstream admits it. As for Russian leadership they know they've won the war and its a matter of time now.
I don't believe there is anything that would force them to escalate except an actual NATO intervention.
The only thing that would achieve is to make EU more racist towards migrants and shit. There is nothing to be gained by anyone for doing this. Also Nordstream happened exactly because it is a strategic asset in a remote area only monitored by military and some government assets and not even completely 100% all the time. At the end of the day nobody even got injured and everyone can happily pretend to look away.
The idea that the US could use a dirty bomb in a EU capital and potentialy kill 6-7 figures is just on a completely different level of conspiracy.
I don't think liberals care about Ukraine at all anymore.
Only one thing matters now, the US must not be embarrased again, but this is unlikely in the short term. This is not Afghanistan and Russia will not march onto Kiev and have US diplomats evacuating in a helicopter.
As long as NATO is not threated they'll just say something like oh we tried but the primitive dumb Ukrainians couldn't even figure out how to launch offensives, also most of them didn't want to fight anyway so they kind of deserve it.
Everything Trump needs to do is point out the obvious problems with Ukraine
-Extremely corrupt by EU standards before the war
-Well known to be run by the same type of oligarchs as Russia next door.
-Literal Nazis in power.
-Literaly no elections for 2+ years.
-Something something Biden's child.
Of course Trump wont punch right but at this point maybe I'm wrong here but I'm not sure there are many liberals willing to die on the Ukraine is the bastion of freedom and democracy hail Zelensky shit anymore, not in 2025+. That is more like NAFO territory even.
Perhaps the small pacifists/naive libs pushing for Israel ceasefire are also kind of tired of Ukraine war too because Ukraine doesn't have a goal and refuses to negotiate at all. Russia is smart to start putting their demands already btw.
The desperate need to always make analogies just to defend Biden is something else. Analogies should only be used if they add something to make understanding the subject easier. But it also assumes the other side is not intelligent enough to understand the subject in the first place.
You wouldn't use analogies to explain the newest Quantum mechanics to Einstein. You could use them to introduce them to a person with a poor math/physics background maybe. But at the end you wouldn't assume the person who "kind of gets it" through an analogy to actualy come out knowing about said topic. You teach an analogy to a kid to help, you don't make the analogy the entire subject and replace the actual topic.
So yeah, all these dipshits using analogies are just saying "hey you pathetic manchild that doesn't understand how democracy is supposed to work, here let me dumb it down for you all why you need to vote for my candidate. So imagine a restaurant menu..."
What do they expect? A bow and a thank you mr democrat asshole I understand democracy now and will proceed to vote for the person you just told me to. The only response should rather be a punch in their face.
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